Found an old picture of me at 17, it explains a lot.

[Megan.]

I'd have passed the order on,  delivered it,  and charged a handling fee.

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[Jessica Lynne]

I played with sticks and ate mud. 

Hugs, Devlyn

So you're saying nothings changed then?   Zing! Damn, where's a drum rim shot when you need one

[Julia1996]

So you're saying nothings changed then?   Zing! Damn, where's a drum rim shot when you need one

Lol. 

[RavenMoon]

Cute. [emoji3] And I can relate. Me about the same age. I was already wearing girls clothes.


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[Allie24]

I look like a butch emo girl in my old high school photos. Funny thing is that I probably would have dressed that way regardless whether I was born a girl or not.

[barbie]

I was about 17 and very girly. Almost wish I'd started HRT then.  But, I would't be who I am today. Interesting though.

Yes. It explains a lot.
I also heard frequently that I look like a girl at my teens. Even little girls said so.

barbie~~

[Devlyn]

I played with sticks and ate mud. 

Hugs, Devlyn

So you're saying nothings changed then?   Zing! Damn, where's a drum rim shot when you need one

. Good one!   

Hugs, Devlyn

[rose]

I don't have pictures for me before starting female hormones I hated myself back then and all the picture that my family had I cut it
My mother said I always look sad in them and like I being forced to take them ( duh yeah )

Luckily for me I start taking female hormones before my 20's when I was still teenager

After that I start taking selfies all the time xD

I never was manly or masculine but recently I found out that before I take the female hormones in my teen my dad did inject me with male hormone without telling me because I was " girly to him "
Back then he said its multi vitamins

Luckily the injections did not damage me that much
And I start the female hormones short after that

no wonder I have great dysphoria

[Allie24]

I've always been curious if there is a connection between transsexuality and underdevelopment in males. Like if your body has some awareness of the discrepancy and thus slows the pubertal process as a result.

I didn't really hit puberty until about age 20, and by that point I had begun HRT so any truly masculinizing effects have been halted. Prior to that, you could say that I was a very late bloomer.

[Julia1996]

I've always been curious if there is a connection between transsexuality and underdevelopment in males. Like if your body has some awareness of the discrepancy and thus slows the pubertal process as a result.

I didn't really hit puberty until about age 20, and by that point I had begun HRT so any truly masculinizing effects have been halted. Prior to that, you could say that I was a very late bloomer.

I have wondered about that too. So does my dad. My voice never dropped into the male range. It deepened a little and it's husky but very much in the female range. My brothers voice started deepening at 13 and his is very deep. I never developed facial hair at all. He started getting facial hair between 14-15 years old. And the biggest difference is my size. My dad is 6'2. My brother is 6'4. I'm only 5'4.

I've heard it said that the human mind can be capable of a lot more than we realize. I wonder if the extreme dysphoria some of us experience at the onset of puberty somehow causes our minds to maybe release chemicals or something that interferes with male puberty.

[Allie24]

I don't know much about endocrinology but it's reasonable to assume that the distress caused by dysphoria could release a hormone that slows certain physical processes.

[Deborah]

It's more likely that the same epigenetic discrepancy that affects the mind in the womb may often affect the body's development also.


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[RavenMoon]

I've always been curious if there is a connection between transsexuality and underdevelopment in males. Like if your body has some awareness of the discrepancy and thus slows the pubertal process as a result.

I didn't really hit puberty until about age 20, and by that point I had begun HRT so any truly masculinizing effects have been halted. Prior to that, you could say that I was a very late bloomer.

I believe so.  If you look at secondary sexual characteristics, like overalll body size and things like the D2:D4 finger ratio (females have longer index fingers than ring fingers. Males are opposite) you will often find that some of us have rather feminine bodies.

In my case I'm only 5'4", and have a small frame. I have the longer index fingers, and my hands are between both sexes, i.e., I have long fingers like a girl, but wider hands more like a guy.

My best friend, who is a cis female, said to me the other night "I don't know how I feel about you having more feminine feet than me! Lol". I think she has pretty feet, but I guess I do too. Lol.

So from the neck down I look like a pre adolescent girl. Lol. I attribute that to not having developed many masculine features. Even on my face. Except for a manish nose and facial hair.

And this probably got started way back when androgen is released to the embryo. This determines a lot of your secondary sexual characteristics. The primary characteristics are determined at conception.

Brain scans of transsexuals also show they match that of the opposite sex.


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[Allie24]

I have always wondered, why don't they use brain scans in order to diagnose transsexuality? Seems like it would make a lot of sense to do so.

[Lyric]

I don't think there are many of us here who haven't fantasized what life would have been like if we'd realized and done things earlier in our lives. I suppose I do so regularly and it's always entertaining.

[Ro]

I noticed quite a lot of trans girls have femininity sprinkled throughout their boy years

I wish I was one... I was 6'3 by the end of middle school and no better in other departments. nature really didn't care what I wanted I'm not sure I have any of the sorts of signs you're all taking about

[big kim]

The picture of Wanda looks like me as a teenager. I stopped growing at 15 & was 6'4", I went from Billy no mates to the most popular kid in my year when other kids knew I could get served alcohol!

[Saira128]

I was about 17 and very girly. Almost wish I'd started HRT then.  But, I would't be who I am today. Interesting though.

You looked like a girl!! Good for you.


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[Saira128]

I have wondered about that too. So does my dad. My voice never dropped into the male range. It deepened a little and it's husky but very much in the female range. My brothers voice started deepening at 13 and his is very deep. I never developed facial hair at all. He started getting facial hair between 14-15 years old. And the biggest difference is my size. My dad is 6'2. My brother is 6'4. I'm only 5'4.

I've heard it said that the human mind can be capable of a lot more than we realize. I wonder if the extreme dysphoria some of us experience at the onset of puberty somehow causes our minds to maybe release chemicals or something that interferes with male puberty.

I don't know if that is true. Not in my case anyway.   I guess I look a bit girly in this picture.
       I am the short one in the picture. I guess I looked a bit girly till I was maybe 10 yrs old. But then, as I approached puberty, I started growing in size, my facial hair appeared, and now I am this giant mess of a person.
        I hate the way I look now, hate it to the guts.

        I started dressing up in my sister's and my mom's clothes when I was maybe 12-13 yrs, I don't remember exactly, but I used to dress up in secret each and every day.
          If only there could have been a confirmatory test for being transgender.
        Its causing me so much trouble, because like you people, I didn't look like a girl when I was a child, nor did I have a delayed puberty. It makes me feel like I am not in the group.
       Maybe, I am not a transgender person. What do you think?
     Is there any way I could confirm it?

         


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[Julia1996]

I have always wondered, why don't they use brain scans in order to diagnose transsexuality? Seems like it would make a lot of sense to do so.

From what I heard,  a simple brainscan doesn't show the differences. It's a close up inspection of the brain post mortem that does it.