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Started by MaxForever, October 03, 2017, 05:20:37 PM

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MaxForever

I know this will all make me happy to transition but I feel unhappy right now.
I am not sure if its from having changes in the future, if its not happy about my decision.
Or what... I can't figure it out. I know I am scared of what is to come when taking hormones.
And also scared of what the public will think of me or if I will just hide away while on hormones which wont be good.
Maybe I haven't admitted to myself that this is really going to happen and am stuck in time. Maybe my brain is still arguing with myself because I feel it will be too hard to go through. Why do I still fear losing myself when all I am doing is changing my gender?
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Cindy


In all the attempts at rationalisation and heart ache about consequences, I decided that I was n't changing my gender, I wasn't bucking against the world. I was doing the most difficult thing there is.

I was accepting myself for being me.

Nothing else then matters. People's opinions are invalid and only one person's thoughts are true.
Mine.

This is not an easy life Max. But it can work incredibly well and you can be happy.
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Laurie

Hi Max,

  The way you feel is completely understandable. Transitioning is one Hell of a Big thing to undertake and it should never be seen as anything else or taken lightly. If you are now reasonably sure and comfortable with doing it then you should not do it. Now would be a great time to be talking with a gender therapist so they can help you figure out if this is really what you should be doing at this time. There is no rush. Take the time to explore yourself more and understand what and why you feel you should do an why you shouldn't. No one can decide your path Max but a therapist can certainly help.

Hugs,
    Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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Jenntrans

Ok I may be wrong but your gender is who you are and a part of you. You are changing the outside to fit the inside.

It is a scary thing to face because the worst monster we will ever face in life is our own self. This will sound messed up but it isn't easy but not quite as hard as you would expect either. That is the messed up part. But you have to decide who you are.

But who you are is who you are regardless of your sex or gender.

I know I probably didn't make things easier on you but you are who you are. Then go from there.
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Charlie Nicki

Self doubt and fear are completely normal. Just because we are all stepping out of our comfort zone and into completely unknown territory. We are leaving the safety of being what we learnt to be behind to something completely new and a bit terrifying. I still don't know where I'm heading, and I have doubts everyday, but I keep on going hopeful that I will find a satisfying resolution at the end of the tunnel that makes it all worth it.

PS: I can't say that I'm happy right now, but I'm not sad either.
Latina :) I speak Spanish, English and a bit of Portuguese.
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MaxForever

Thanks everyone it always makes me feel better to hear from others.
Life is definatly far from easy. I know that changing my body would make me more comfortable.
It's hard to come  to grips that this is me. Maybe the scary thing too is all I known is being a woman and
when I become a man I will have to re learn stuff too. I have an appointment it was just a bit longer of a wait for the therapist. Just scared and scared still. Maybe I feel like I am redoing part of my life.
Which isn't bad because my past wasn't the greatest anyway.
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Allie24

Quote from: MaxForever on October 03, 2017, 06:13:02 PM
Thanks everyone it always makes me feel better to hear from others.
Life is definatly far from easy. I know that changing my body would make me more comfortable.
It's hard to come  to grips that this is me. Maybe the scary thing too is all I known is being a woman and
when I become a man I will have to re learn stuff too. I have an appointment it was just a bit longer of a wait for the therapist. Just scared and scared still. Maybe I feel like I am redoing part of my life.
Which isn't bad because my past wasn't the greatest anyway.

I may be misunderstanding this, and if so, please correct me, but you should understand that transitioning does not undo the past. Understanding this is fundamental. The life you lived before will be your life until the day you die, and transition will not erase that. You may present differently, and you may have a different name, but the essence of you that was there then, will be with you still. I say this because if it happens that you do transition and you wonder why it doesn't feel like you got to start everything over, it's because you didn't. You will always be you inside.

I may be wrong of course, and again, if I am, please tell me. I say what I say out of concern for your well being. Sometimes people transition thinking it will make them somebody else. But physical changes don't change who you are inside, and if that is who you really hate then transition definitely won't stop you from continuing to hate that inner self (the one unattached to gender, I mean).

I trust that you know yourself best and that you will choose the treatment path that most benefits you. I wish you luck on your journey<3
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Jenntrans

Quote from: Allie24 on October 03, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
I may be misunderstanding this, and if so, please correct me, but you should understand that transitioning does not undo the past. Understanding this is fundamental. The life you lived before will be your life until the day you die, and transition will not erase that. You may present differently, and you may have a different name, but the essence of you that was there then, will be with you still. I say this because if it happens that you do transition and you wonder why it doesn't feel like you got to start everything over, it's because you didn't. You will always be you inside.

I may be wrong of course, and again, if I am, please tell me. I say what I say out of concern for your well being. Sometimes people transition thinking it will make them somebody else. But physical changes don't change who you are inside, and if that is who you really hate then transition definitely won't stop you from continuing to hate that inner self (the one unattached to gender, I mean).

I trust that you know yourself best and that you will choose the treatment path that most benefits you. I wish you luck on your journey<3

Yeah Allie. I think you got it right. Who you are is who you are and changing the outside will not change who you are so much on the inside. Sometimes changing the outside will make the inside feel better but there is no guarantee. So know who you are inside and then change the outside to match.
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tgirlamg

Hi Max...

I would remind you that it is in our nature, as human beings, to take the blanks in our knowledge about what a decision as life changing as transition may hold for us and immediately insert our worst fears in to those blanks... Our fears are there to keep us safe from harm but we can become a slave to our fears if we let them rule us....

This thing we hold inside us for so long comes to a point where the need to live the truth of who we are inside will take precedence over how others may or may not view us... if living the truth of the person at your core has become what is most important to you... Move ahead with courage and hold the light of hope in your heart.... You are he only one that must occupy the house of flesh that you were given... If you wish to modify the outside of the house... Perhaps have it re-plumbed? ... That is your business!!!...All will be well...

Onward we go!!!

Ashley :)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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rmaddy

Not all mood swings are gender related.  Some are, but trans people on hormones still have them.
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Bari Jo

Hi Max, doubt and uncertainty can rule your life.  The best to me is to talk it out.  A lady here (wise beyond her years, certainly wiser than me) reminded me that cis males don't have the attitudes and questions that I do.  I'd imagine the same goes for your side.  That advise stuck with me.  She told me I'd probably only feel happy and complete if I transitioned, and I believe it, always believed it.  As a recent test I asked a cis male friend of mine if he ever thought about whT he'd look like as a woman.  Nope, never was his answer.  Is that kind of question our answer?  We imagine ourselves in the opposite gender always.  Anyway, I asked if he'd like to see what I'd look like if I was a girl, and he said no, he might get turned on.  I showed him anyways, and he said he hated always being right.  Anyway, to make it short our questions are because we are trans.  We might not want to be, but you gotta choose if you want the alternative of denial and repression.  I know there's no happiness there.  Can you find it?
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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Charlie Nicki

I think your essence might be the same but if dysphoria or discomfort with your life was making you act differently, for example being sad, or angry, etc... Then transition can change that. Not because of the process per se, but because living the way you identify might erase those negative feelings (if they come from that).
Latina :) I speak Spanish, English and a bit of Portuguese.
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Allie24

Quote from: Charlie Nicki on October 03, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
I think your essence might be the same but if dysphoria or discomfort with your life was making you act differently, for example being sad, or angry, etc... Then transition can change that. Not because of the process per se, but because living the way you identify might erase those negative feelings (if they come from that).

I was referring to the statements Max made about starting life anew because of a bad past. Language like that may be referring to something other than simply dysphoria. If it's trauma, then I think the trauna needs to be addressed first, for two reasons. One, gender dysphoria is sometimes a symptom of trauma, and if the trauma is addressed, the dysphoria dissipates. Two, if the dysphoria is indeed separate from the trauma, then the trauma should still be addressed first, because the stress of transitioning (I will not lie, despite its benefits for some, the process can be insanely stressful) can make the symptoms of trauma even worse.
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Bobbie LeAnn

Quote from: Cindy on October 03, 2017, 05:27:47 PM
In all the attempts at rationalisation and heart ache about consequences, I decided that I was n't changing my gender, I wasn't bucking against the world. I was doing the most difficult thing there is.

I was accepting myself for being me.

Nothing else then matters. People's opinions are invalid and only one person's thoughts are true.
Mine.

This is not an easy life Max. But it can work incredibly well and you can be happy.

I couldn't agree more. That is exactly how I feel. I'm doing this for me and no one else.
Sure it was hard to go out in public dressed as a woman the first time but at the same time it felt so right.
I had a lady cashier in a store the other day laugh at me but that was just her showing her ignorance.
You have to do what is right for you. No one can tell you what is right for you.
Listen to your heart.


Love
Bobbie LeAnn






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Charlie Nicki

Quote from: Allie24 on October 03, 2017, 08:06:41 PM
I was referring to the statements Max made about starting life anew because of a bad past. Language like that may be referring to something other than simply dysphoria. If it's trauma, then I think the trauna needs to be addressed first, for two reasons. One, gender dysphoria is sometimes a symptom of trauma, and if the trauma is addressed, the dysphoria dissipates. Two, if the dysphoria is indeed separate from the trauma, then the trauma should still be addressed first, because the stress of transitioning (I will not lie, despite its benefits for some, the process can be insanely stressful) can make the symptoms of trauma even worse.

Oh I get it now. I absolutely agree with you Allie.
Latina :) I speak Spanish, English and a bit of Portuguese.
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MaxForever

Sorry for not completely explaining what I meant. I meant T might make me feel like I am re living as a teenager.
I know it wont erase my past. But people who will see me as Max wont know me as insert female name here.
So for them they wont know my past as a woman. (Which makes me happier to know). So I guess that is what I meant by erasing part of my past for others not for myself. I know that myself will have to have my past in my brain still.
I do have trama I don't like to talk about it much my father was mentally abusive. I did go to a lot of therapists when I was a teenager for this. (phsychatrist' as well). And in college. I will discuss some more stuff with my therapist when I see her soon. Sorry for some misunderstandings. Thanks for replying everyone it makes me feel better that people care.
Sometimes I need a reminder that there are people who care.

(As to a reply to the one persons posts about cis people not asking them the question) Often been thinking about this too. I know it is not a normal thing that people ask themselves so I always go over that in my brain. I was thinking about last night that would I be unhappy if I didn't do this, yes.
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Elis

Making the massive step to transition was frankly terrifying. Plus that coupled with relearning how to socialise with people (which I wasn't good at to to begin with) was also scary. But little by little it becomes easier. You'll have days thinking how wonderful it is you made that leap and others were you feel like WTH am I doing. It just takes patience (which I'm still learning)understanding T isn't a fix it all solution and some therapy may be useful and continues self improvement the same as any other person.

You got this ;)
They/them pronouns preferred.



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Allie24

Quote from: MaxForever on October 04, 2017, 07:23:39 AM
Sorry for not completely explaining what I meant. I meant T might make me feel like I am re living as a teenager.
I know it wont erase my past. But people who will see me as Max wont know me as insert female name here.
So for them they wont know my past as a woman. (Which makes me happier to know). So I guess that is what I meant by erasing part of my past for others not for myself. I know that myself will have to have my past in my brain still.
I do have trama I don't like to talk about it much my father was mentally abusive. I did go to a lot of therapists when I was a teenager for this. (phsychatrist' as well). And in college. I will discuss some more stuff with my therapist when I see her soon. Sorry for some misunderstandings. Thanks for replying everyone it makes me feel better that people care.
Sometimes I need a reminder that there are people who care.

(As to a reply to the one persons posts about cis people not asking them the question) Often been thinking about this too. I know it is not a normal thing that people ask themselves so I always go over that in my brain. I was thinking about last night that would I be unhappy if I didn't do this, yes.

I advise that you deal with the trauma first. Make 100% sure that the dysphoria and the trauma are not connected, and then move on with the process, if the need for it remains. Trauma can warp our minds and cause us to think and do a lot of crazy things. Once that trauma is unpacked, you can look at the dysphoria and the possibility of transition without all that emotional weight. Either you will no longer feel the need for transition, or the transition process won't be as hard as it could've been if you still carried that trauma with you.

It's all about having good priorities set in regards to your mental health.
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MaxForever

The trauma I have been dealing with my whole life has been hard to get rid of I don't think I will ever get rid of it.
My father made me feel aweful about myself. (Everything was always my fault). Mental abuse is something people live with all their lives I am sure. My mom is 50 something and she hasn't gotten rid of it yet. I will talk to my therapist about it when I see her next time. Anyway I am sure there are others who will understand this situation.
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Allie24

Quote from: MaxForever on October 05, 2017, 07:46:37 AM
The trauma I have been dealing with my whole life has been hard to get rid of I don't think I will ever get rid of it.
My father made me feel aweful about myself. (Everything was always my fault). Mental abuse is something people live with all their lives I am sure. My mom is 50 something and she hasn't gotten rid of it yet. I will talk to my therapist about it when I see her next time. Anyway I am sure there are others who will understand this situation.

You can't cure trauma, but you can treat its symptoms. Talk with your therapist. Tell them about your gender dysphoria and tell them that you want to find out if there is any connection between the dysphoria and the trauma, and work things out from there. There are many stories of FTM detransitioners who have grown to regret their decisions because their gender dysphoria arose from trauma and was not its own thing. This is why I think understanding your trauma first is what is most important.
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