Pushing the envelope

[Bari Jo]

Thanks JennyBear, I'm very lucky where I work and what I do for a living.  My employer is probably the best for LGBT there is.  I probably wouldn't even have to have meetings with HR.

Bari Jo

[RavenMoon]

This is what I've been doing. Not on HRT yet, but I grew my hair long, pluck my brows, dress very androgynously... girls skinny jeans and t-shirts, and wear nail polish. No makeup during the day for work.
No one really questions it. I'm a musician so I think they just think that's what it is. Lol

I don't think I look like a woman. But I've had a few instances where people think so. That always makes me feel good. [emoji3]


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[Bari Jo]

RavenMoon, we are following similar paths.  I'm an artist at my work, fine art.  We have lgbt clubs and gay days though so no worries.  I'm sure people have an idea that I'm transitioning already, but I haven't come public yet.  Once I get the hair thing under control I will.  Hopefully by then I'll be gendered correctly.  I havent had that in forever!

[Nora Kayte]

Get the pink earbuds. When I was little I was pink obsessed. I wore pink clothes, (gender neutral) had a pink bedspread and loved anything pink. I seriously doubt pink earbuds will raise any eyebrows.

Love pink. Wife says stop please no more pink. Lol. Still love pink. But for her I have enough pink. I can wear my pink bras and she won't see until I take them off. Lol. And nobody has ever said anything about any of my pink items. So I would not worry 1 bit.


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[Bari Jo]

nobody has ever said anything about any of my pink items. So I would not worry 1 bit.

Thanks Norma, I ordered pink. I think that will look best with my complexion and hair color too.  I'll be using them at work.  I'll get some comments for sure, but I've already told some people I ordered pink when they asked what color.  I think it'll be fine.  Planning next envelope push now:)

[Roll]

Bari Jo, <3 you for making this thread. It gave me the push to just say screw it and shave everything this morning. My cheap little 2 dollar "gold" bracelet I bought looks so cute on my wrist now without that stupid hair.

[Bari Jo]

Bari Jo, <3 you for making this thread. It gave me the push to just say screw it and shave everything this morning. My cheap little 2 dollar "gold" bracelet I bought looks so cute on my wrist now without that stupid hair.

Hee hee, glad to be of help.  My goal is to confortably transition for myself and the people around me.  But yes, the need to push the envelope is always there.

[elkie-t]

Bari Jo, <3 you for making this thread. It gave me the push to just say screw it and shave everything this morning.

Big mistake, you should've wax.

[Roll]

Big mistake, you should've wax.

I had the razor, didn't have the wax and it was spur of the moment. But I've already planned on picking it up for next time(literally a kit is in my amazon cart), I'm sick of stubble.

[Laurie]

Big mistake, you should've wax.

   No it's not a big mistake. Waxing is better in your opinions. Shaving was her solution and not open for criticism. It served her purpose and that is what is important. You are welcome to express your opinion as long as it takes the form of an opinion.

[JennyBear]

I had the razor, didn't have the wax and it was spur of the moment. But I've already planned on picking it up for next time(literally a kit is in my amazon cart), I'm sick of stubble.

     If you can handle the pain involved (slightly worse than waxing,) an electric tweezer/epilator works great for some areas, such as fingers, hands and wrists, if you have hair there. Operating costs are lower than waxing after the initial purchase, just a tiny bit of electricity to recharge it. Mine is a wet/dry. But its not for everyone. Anything that pulls the roots out (sugaring, waxing, epilating, tweezing) negates the possibility of having a shadow (fine stubble.) On the other hand, shaving does save a lot of hassle, and if your hairs are fine and light you wont have to worry about shadow anyway, other than facial hair. Just food for thought. Whatever works for you.

HUGS!

[elkie-t]

   No it's not a big mistake. Waxing is better in your opinions. Shaving was her solution and not open for criticism. It served her purpose and that is what is important. You are welcome to express your opinion as long as it takes the form of an opinion.

Everything I write is my opinion and not divine truth set in stone (that is your moderatorial prerogative).

And she already expressed regrets of her actions - see her last post "I'm sick of stubble". And the problem with stubble is that until it grows all the way back - you cannot wax it and you need to shave it every other day (at least).

It's somewhat acceptable on legs (after all a little stubble isn't highly visible), but a major irritation on hands

And Roll is totally entitled to think she did everything right and continue to do so. I'm not her boss to tell her what to do or not, only to friendly offer suggestions here or there, or have little fun at her expense (obviously friendly, and good intended).

[elkie-t]

+1 on electric epilator (the only thing that would pull that stubble). +2 on ibuprofen 1 hr before she does it.

With obvious disclaimers and such...


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[Laurie]

Everything I write is my opinion and not divine truth set in stone (that is your moderatorial prerogative).

And she already expressed regrets of her actions - see her last post "I'm sick of stubble". And the problem with stubble is that until it grows all the way back - you cannot wax it and you need to shave it every other day (at least).

It's somewhat acceptable on legs (after all a little stubble isn't highly visible), but a major irritation on hands

And Roll is totally entitled to think she did everything right and continue to do so. I'm not her boss to tell her what to do or not, only to friendly offer suggestions here or there, or have little fun at her expense (obviously friendly, and good intended).

  Elkie,

  I obviously did not see your response as an expression of an opinion. To me it looked like a criticism as I indicated. If that was not your intention I certainly apologize but will ask you to keep in mind that it frequently is not what one says, but how it is said that comes through.

[RobynD]

I did this much of my adult life. Steadily more feminine. Grooming, clothes, colors, makeup etc. At times a pretty tomboyish look but i knew where i was going. There is a lot to be gained from pushing the zones of comfort, humans i think are in need of this. This is how we innovate and change.

[JennyBear]

    Careful though. Push past your comfort zone too far too fast and you could fall right off the couch and get a concussion from the coffee table. (Sorry, had to inject some humor.)

HUGS!

[elkie-t]

Roll, i am not sure amazon waxing kit is effective... Julia1996 used to recommend Brazilian (hard) wax, she might elaborate more on it. You still have plenty of time to figure it before your stubble is long enough to be pulled with wax.


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[davina61]

Have been wearing earrings since April and painting my nails for ages, padding a bra for the last 2 months and tempted to put my C cup breast forms in. Work uniform gender neutral , baggy trousers, polo shirt, sweat shirt and made sure they have room to expand (in the chest area!!!) skinny jeans and T shirt other wise at the moment but do have a good selection of tops and leggings 

[Roll]

Roll, i am not sure amazon waxing kit is effective... Julia1996 used to recommend Brazilian (hard) wax, she might elaborate more on it. You still have plenty of time to figure it before your stubble is long enough to be pulled with wax.

I was actually just reading about that, and Amazon even has a really nicely discounted jar(right now all of my purchases are online for logistics), but I don't know if I want to invest in the necessary accessories like the wax heater, so for now I just have a set of the ready to use strips in cart ("kit" was a misnomer on my part).

I admit though I am really considering tapping into money I really, really shouldn't and grabbing a remington ilight quartz for like 30% off on Groupon, but that seems like such a potential backfire and I've resisted thus far. The opinions on the home IPL devices are so divisive, but if it did work even a little bit I would love to get started on more semi-permanent removal of places like arm, which would require the shaving regardless. This is getting a wee bit off topic though, so I'll leave it at that.

[ToriJo]

The first thing I did to my appearance was to shave my arms.  It felt wonderful to see the hair gone.  I'll probably start epilating at some point if I can deal with the pain (not sure I can) - but I don't have much shadow there despite dark hair, but my arms are quite tan.  I've received no comments except from my wife (who likes me with less hair).  And I'm fine with some hairs.

I also got more feminine earbuds.   They make me happy.

And I have a small trans flag in my cube.  I wanted something sort-of subtle but so that allies and other trans people would have a sign.

Will people figure it out? Maybe.  But the path I'm on is not one I'll be able to hide forever anyhow.