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Started HRT on Friday the 13th! :)

Started by Marcieelizabeth, October 14, 2017, 03:53:27 PM

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Marcieelizabeth

I have not posted for quite awhile!  But I saw the endocrinologist yesterday and I am now on Spiro and Estadiol!! 

It has been quite a journey for me. THanks to a few dedicated friends I am holding it together and moving forward.  My spouse, wife, decided to come to the appointment.  She broke down  in tears when I explained my journey to the doc!  But she pulled it together and was a trooper, then we had a very nice brunch at a local eatery!!  A great day.

But now my impatient side (do I have any other?) is asking when do the effects start?  I told the doc I had been using bio-identicals which she said was okay, but she does not prescribe them because they are not regulated and standardized enough.  SO now medical HRT!  Loving life. 

Anyone able to give me some insight into how quickly things may develop  - I am on a low dose of Estradiol to start - using the patch - Breast growth? Wider hips? softer skin? Less hair on arms, etc?

Thanks all for anything you can share!

Thanks, Love and Hugs Marcie!
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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Bari Jo

Awesome day to start.  My doctor gave me a chart which I can scan in and post.  I think there is one locally too.  When I first started, I had larger aereolas in 1 day, almost like they just spread.  Then perky nipples in a week or two.  By the third week breasts started to itch, then sometimes burn.  Buds developed under the nipple by a month.  Thinks kinda slowed after that for me.  I'm 3 months in and my skin is lighter and softer.  Oh and dont forget the emotional effects.  That was immediate for me, euphoric high every time I took estrodial.  I'm on pellets now, so the euphoric surge isn't there, but I know the pellets are working by my emotional journey.  It's great to finally be on my way.  You'll feel the same!

Hope that helps.  If nobody points you to a chart, I'll do that when I get home tonight.

Bari Jo
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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Marcieelizabeth

Quote from: Bari Jo on October 14, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
Awesome day to start.  My doctor gave me a chart which I can scan in and post.  I think there is one locally too.  When I first started, I had larger aereolas in 1 day, almost like they just spread.  Then perky nipples in a week or two.  By the third week breasts started to itch, then sometimes burn.  Buds developed under the nipple by a month.  Thinks kinda slowed after that for me.  I'm 3 months in and my skin is lighter and softer.  Oh and dont forget the emotional effects.  That was immediate for me, euphoric high every time I took estrodial.  I'm on pellets now, so the euphoric surge isn't there, but I know the pellets are working by my emotional journey.  It's great to finally be on my way.  You'll feel the same!

Hope that helps.  If nobody points you to a chart, I'll do that when I get home tonight.

Bari Jo

Thank You Bari Jo!  I look forward to seeing the chart - I did have some soreness in my nipples last night!  I am wondering how much my age impacts this or is it more genetics? 

Your profile pic is so cute! 

Marcie Elizabeth!
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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Pisces228

Congratulations! 

The first change I noticed was my skin felt softer.  I noticed it in the shower one day, I was like hmm, I feel soft and slippery after rinsing the soap off not squeaky clean haha.  Nipple sensitivity started soon after and some breast swelling started about 6 weeks later.  Honestly, I don't remember when my breast got big enough for a bra, it's so gradual.  My face started changing at 5 months.  Started getting comments from friends that I looked younger.  Hips might not get too big depending on age, but your butt and thighs will from fat redistribution.

Remember, YMMV.  Some progress steady and slow, some fast and and what seems unfairly right away, some have many months of stubborn subtle changes and them wham!  they started speeding up and getting boobs and a butt and are male failing.  It's different for everyone.  Regardless, enjoy this time.  Be happy you are changing.  Enjoy your second chance at puberty.  Oh, and don't put off hair removal, it gets more painful as your skin changes.
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Allison S

Congrats! I  started 2 weeks ago so we're about the same starting point in time.  Isn't it exciting?  I haven't noticed anything per se yet but I know I've been thinking so much about everything.  Like how I'm really transitioning now, mentally, spiritually and of course (hopefully) physically.  It's overwhelming to say the least but I love every moment of it. 

I'm not sure about age because all the people who posted their timeline are different ages from 20s to 50s and over and the results vary.  I think everyone can definitely reach their goal, but it's just an individual journey.  I actually think about that too at 27 am I too young?  I mean I'm happy to be at a point where I'm independent and can transition but I also want to financially secure my future.  Luckily I'm working now but starting HRT is scary!

Also, I'm learning patience- one day at a time.  I think starting HRT is so hard because we decide this is what we want and need, yet the surgeries come much later.  There's so much to consider, hair removal, surgeries, style changes/hair, finances, safety, love/relationships/sex etc.  I just think I need to slow it all down and enjoy my life right now or else I probably will drive myself crazy lol.  I think I'm growing wiser somehow..

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Bari Jo

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Quote from: Marcieelizabeth on October 14, 2017, 04:43:53 PM
Thank You Bari Jo!  I look forward to seeing the chart - I did have some soreness in my nipples last night!  I am wondering how much my age impacts this or is it more genetics? 

Your profile pic is so cute! 

Marcie Elizabeth!

Thanks about the pict.  Now if I eventually look like that I will be a happy girl indeed.  I am starting to see changes in my face and it's making me very happy.

As for age, I've heard that too.  I've also heard genetics play a role.  I'm 47 and have dabbled in DIY transition before this third one being final and permanent.  I can't change who I am, so I'm not hiding it anymore.  The changes for me may have some influence from before.  I can tell you this third round things have been way more emotional.  That's probably because I'm being monitored by a doctor and she's prescribing my meds.   So as usual, your mileage may vary.

Here is a link to that chart.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yz6rupipnh25lq/IMAG2722.jpg?dl=0

Bari Jo
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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AnneK

Ahhh...  That explains your avatar!   :D
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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Bari Jo

Quote from: AnneK on October 15, 2017, 09:06:37 AM
Ahhh...  That explains your avatar!   :D


I know I'm reaching for the stars, but the faceapp pict makes me feel good.  Here's the before/after.  Time will tell.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tt6qf6wyidzk06w/1x1208.gif?dl=0
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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JessiCalypsoƸ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

Hi! I started HRT 1 month ago, & I've had some pretty rapid changes. I'm 33 & I began w/ spiro & estradiol, 1st pills then patches. I'm not sure my results are typical as @ 2 wks I had softer skin and hair, my breast buds started getting larger (always had em, never went away after puberty) & extremely sensitive, always erect nipples... & my last penile erection, lol.
3 wks & my buds had grown almost double their original size, & my face started to look different...
Now at a month I've got "massive" buds, they fill the entirety of my nipples, my areolas have begun to expand, & I have a little bit of breast tissue around them (just enough to hold & imagine the future [emoji1]), my hair growth is considerably slower, things look... smoother, like my hands & feet aren't all "tendony," my man parts have shrunk (some aching in the testis, hoo boy... WORTH IT! ugh...), & definitive feminization of my face... Still can't quite tell what's changed, I think it's in my cheeks tho... The last 2 things are the best, IMO.
Again, my results may not be typical... My endo was surprised at my breast buds/sensitivity when I saw her 2 wks ago. Hope u have some rapid results too!! Proper exercise & diet do seem to be very important, so keep up on that, & like I was told: hold on, it's a wild ride!! Lol!
Much love! -Jessi [emoji178]

Sent from my Z799VL using Tapatalk

"This, too, shall pass." So simple. So powerful. Saved my life. 💖⚧💋
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Marcieelizabeth

Quote from: Pisces228 on October 14, 2017, 04:45:10 PM
Congratulations! 

The first change I noticed was my skin felt softer.  I noticed it in the shower one day, I was like hmm, I feel soft and slippery after rinsing the soap off not squeaky clean haha.  Nipple sensitivity started soon after and some breast swelling started about 6 weeks later.  Honestly, I don't remember when my breast got big enough for a bra, it's so gradual.  My face started changing at 5 months.  Started getting comments from friends that I looked younger.  Hips might not get too big depending on age, but your butt and thighs will from fat redistribution.

Remember, YMMV.  Some progress steady and slow, some fast and and what seems unfairly right away, some have many months of stubborn subtle changes and them wham!  they started speeding up and getting boobs and a butt and are male failing.  It's different for everyone.  Regardless, enjoy this time.  Be happy you are changing.  Enjoy your second chance at puberty.  Oh, and don't put off hair removal, it gets more painful as your skin changes.

Thanks I am so impatient so it is good to know what may happen when. Love and hugs!
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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Marcieelizabeth

Quote from: JessiCalypsoƸ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ on October 15, 2017, 06:51:40 PM
Hi! I started HRT 1 month ago, & I've had some pretty rapid changes. I'm 33 & I began w/ spiro & estradiol, 1st pills then patches. I'm not sure my results are typical as @ 2 wks I had softer skin and hair, my breast buds started getting larger (always had em, never went away after puberty) & extremely sensitive, always erect nipples... & my last penile erection, lol.
3 wks & my buds had grown almost double their original size, & my face started to look different...
Now at a month I've got "massive" buds, they fill the entirety of my nipples, my areolas have begun to expand, & I have a little bit of breast tissue around them (just enough to hold & imagine the future [emoji1]), my hair growth is considerably slower, things look... smoother, like my hands & feet aren't all "tendony," my man parts have shrunk (some aching in the testis, hoo boy... WORTH IT! ugh...), & definitive feminization of my face... Still can't quite tell what's changed, I think it's in my cheeks tho... The last 2 things are the best, IMO.
Again, my results may not be typical... My endo was surprised at my breast buds/sensitivity when I saw her 2 wks ago. Hope u have some rapid results too!! Proper exercise & diet do seem to be very important, so keep up on that, & like I was told: hold on, it's a wild ride!! Lol!
Much love! -Jessi [emoji178]

Jessi -

That sounds so wonderful!  I am so happy for you!!  I hope I can report some great changes soon too. I have waited so many years it will definitely be a wild ride!

Love and hugs!

Marcie

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:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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Marcieelizabeth

Quote from: dist123 on October 14, 2017, 05:51:39 PM
Congrats! I  started 2 weeks ago so we're about the same starting point in time.  Isn't it exciting?  I haven't noticed anything per se yet but I know I've been thinking so much about everything.  Like how I'm really transitioning now, mentally, spiritually and of course (hopefully) physically.  It's overwhelming to say the least but I love every moment of it. 

I'm not sure about age because all the people who posted their timeline are different ages from 20s to 50s and over and the results vary.  I think everyone can definitely reach their goal, but it's just an individual journey.  I actually think about that too at 27 am I too young?  I mean I'm happy to be at a point where I'm independent and can transition but I also want to financially secure my future.  Luckily I'm working now but starting HRT is scary!

Also, I'm learning patience- one day at a time.  I think starting HRT is so hard because we decide this is what we want and need, yet the surgeries come much later.  There's so much to consider, hair removal, surgeries, style changes/hair, finances, safety, love/relationships/sex etc.  I just think I need to slow it all down and enjoy my life right now or else I probably will drive myself crazy lol.  I think I'm growing wiser somehow..

It is really great to do this together!  :)  It is extremely hard for me to wait any more, but of course I have to, and need to, for many reasons some are biological, some so I can come out to all I need to, and some so I can enjoy the ride and get used to who I am supposed to be.  I really cannot believe I am finally doing this.  I am so VERY HAPPY!  GIDDY even!!! I at times cannot stop smiling.  I cannot change how others may respond, and I am very hopeful those that I love will be okay and even encouraging about all this - I have to be me!! 

Love and Hugs, Marcie
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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HappyMoni

Marcie, I have it on good authority that on day 5, your meds will kick in and cause you to meet a friend for dinner and a tremendous calm will come over you. You will laugh and smile (that's the estrogen) and a great feeling will over take you and fill you with patience. (That's the Spiro and alcohol.) If you don't believe me check the WPATH standards for eating with friends.
Moni ;D  :P
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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Marcieelizabeth

Quote from: HappyMoni on October 15, 2017, 09:12:21 PM
Marcie, I have it on good authority that on day 5, your meds will kick in and cause you to meet a friend for dinner and a tremendous calm will come over you. You will laugh and smile (that's the estrogen) and a great feeling will over take you and fill you with patience. (That's the Spiro and alcohol.) If you don't believe me check the WPATH standards for eating with friends.
Moni ;D  :P

Moni, Moni, Moni - I had to check with my scheduler and love of my life to be sure since I cannot keep any date straight but I think you are correct! :) :) :) Oh we are eating as well as talking?? Now I can't wait until Day 5!

Hugs and MUCH Love Marcie
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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KayXo

Quote from: Marcieelizabeth on October 14, 2017, 03:53:27 PMI told the doc I had been using bio-identicals which she said was okay, but she does not prescribe them because they are not regulated and standardized enough.  SO now medical HRT!  Loving life. 

Anyone able to give me some insight into how quickly things may develop  - I am on a low dose of Estradiol to start - using the patch

The patch contains bio-identical estradiol, as do the pills usually prescribed to us, the gel, the injections, etc.

Quote from: Pisces228 on October 14, 2017, 04:45:10 PMThe first change I noticed was my skin felt softer.  I noticed it in the shower one day, I was like hmm, I feel soft and slippery after rinsing the soap off not squeaky clean haha.

You've got me rethinking whether it's the T that I recently started taking post-op or the Estrogel I'm now using that is making my skin SOOO soft and slippery exactly as you describe it, in the shower. I remember when I switched from oral estradiol to injectable estradiol, I noticed the same, much softer skin while on oral estradiol, my skin was VERY dry. My breasts also shrank on injectable estradiol.  ??? I get the feeling that the combination of E with some T makes the skin soft while just E and VERY low T, you get dry skin. No? Yes? Anyone care to chime in...


I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Marcieelizabeth

Quote from: KayXo on October 16, 2017, 08:57:15 AM
The patch contains bio-identical estradiol, as do the pills usually prescribed to us, the gel, the injections, etc.



Thanks!  and yes - I chose the patch for the lower ricks.  I was using OTC bio-identical Progesteone and Pregenolone prior to medical HRT

Love and Hugs Marcie
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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JessiCalypsoƸ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ



Quote from: Marcieelizabeth on October 15, 2017, 09:06:51 PM
It is really great to do this together!  :)  It is extremely hard for me to wait any more, but of course I have to, and need to, for many reasons some are biological, some so I can come out to all I need to, and some so I can enjoy the ride and get used to who I am supposed to be.  I really cannot believe I am finally doing this.  I am so VERY HAPPY!  GIDDY even!!! I at times cannot stop smiling.  I cannot change how others may respond, and I am very hopeful those that I love will be okay and even encouraging about all this - I have to be me!! 

Love and Hugs, Marcie

Aww, it makes me SOOO HAPPY to see someone else feeling the same way I did when I first started!! I also couldn't believe I was finally doing it, still can't! I couldn't escape the dysphoria, even when I slept.. I used to dream that I was a girl, & I'd be so happy... Til I woke up & realized I was still a boy... Happiness would vanish, replaced by misery... & I'd cry myself back to sleep... [emoji22] Sooo, when I started HRT, it was LITERALLY a dream come true! [emoji16] Sometimes, tho, I wake up in a panic, afraid that this, too, has all been a dream... so I pinch myself, smile, & drift back off to sleep! [emoji4]
I truly hope that your transition goes well, & you receive nothing but positivity, acceptance, support & love! If you ever need to talk to someone that's not that far ahead of you in their journey, please don't hesitate to PM me. I'm here for you!
Much love! -Jessi [emoji178]

Sent from my Z799VL using Tapatalk

"This, too, shall pass." So simple. So powerful. Saved my life. 💖⚧💋
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Allison S

Quote from: HappyMoni on October 15, 2017, 09:12:21 PM
Marcie, I have it on good authority that on day 5, your meds will kick in and cause you to meet a friend for dinner and a tremendous calm will come over you. You will laugh and smile (that's the estrogen) and a great feeling will over take you and fill you with patience. (That's the Spiro and alcohol.) If you don't believe me check the WPATH standards for eating with friends.
Moni ;D  :P

Lol you're so funny and I don't know why!  :laugh:
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