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Started by JessStrong, November 17, 2017, 09:58:41 AM

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JessStrong

I'm panicking, I don't know what to do. I just told my high school sweetheart wife of 25 years that I have always felt like I should have been a woman. My struggle for last several decades has been awful, and about 2 years ago, I decided to start growing out my hair. I told her it was because of acting, because it made me stand out at my age group. I found that it also made me finally feel a connection with my internal female identity. I also grew my nails out from the chewed nails they used to be. I felt more normal than I have ever been.

Last night she confronted me because she found some eye lash growth product that I have been using and I just told her.

She is in anguish, I've never cried so much in my life, because she is in pain. At this point, I don't care about myself or my internal feelings,, I can't live with out her. I am panicking and I don't know what to do.

I think I ruined everything I lived my life for. 
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Megan.

Firstly,  hi and welcome.
Secondly, have a big hug. X

Try to breath, and pause. You've just admitted something to both your partner, and in saying it loud,  also to yourself.

It sounds like your partner didn't have a clue about your feeling on this,  so give them time to process,  answer questions,  but try your best not to swamp them.

If they want,  there is the SO's section on this site where they may get some support/advice from others.

We're here for you. X

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Jessica

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Hi Jess 🙋 this is one of the hardest part in the journey of finding yourself.  I am lucky my wife of 37 years supports me.  I think it's partly because she has always known and I'm not throwing it in her face, by going slow.  I've been on hrt for 5 months now and have gradually moved more to the female spectrum.  Still able to present male, but maybe if I shaved my mustache not so easily. 
Try creating dialogue with your wife a little at a time while assuring her you are the same person and continue to desire to be with her. 
Hugs, Jessica 💁

"If you go out looking for friends, you are going to find they are very scarce.  If you go out to be a friend, you'll find them everywhere."


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JessStrong

Quote from: Megan. on November 17, 2017, 10:06:25 AM
Firstly,  hi and welcome.
Secondly, have a big hug. X

Try to breath, and pause. You've just admitted something to both your partner, and in saying it loud,  also to yourself.

It sounds like your partner didn't have a clue about your feeling on this,  so give them time to process,  answer questions,  but try your best not to swamp them.

If they want,  there is the SO's section on this site where they may get some support/advice from others.

We're here for you. X

Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk

Thank you. I am barely keeping it together in my cubicle at work right now. I don't think I have ever felt this alone before. :( I am in so much pain, and I feel ashamed.
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JessStrong

Quote from: Jessica on November 17, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
Hi Jess 🙋 this is one of the hardest part in the journey of finding yourself.  I am lucky my wife of 37 years supports me.  I think it's partly because she has always known and I'm not throwing it in her face by going slow.  I've been on hrt for 5 months now and have gradually moved more to the female spectrum.  Still able to present male, but maybe if I shaved my mustache not so easily. 
Try creating dialogue with your wife a little at a time while assuring her you are the same person and continue to desire to be with her. 
Hugs, Jessica 💁

I am desperately telling her this, I am still me! But she married a Marine, her prince. I have always been there for her, my life revolves around her happiness. I have kids, grandkids........ what have I done???      I am at a loss. I wish I didn't say anything but I can't take it back now.  Oh my God, what have I done??????
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Jessica

Consider disclosing a route where you want to discuss this with a therapist (which you should) to sort out your feelings.  This could give you time that may show her you are who you have been all along.  I might suggest she have counseling too, with or without you.
Hugs, Jessica 💁

"If you go out looking for friends, you are going to find they are very scarce.  If you go out to be a friend, you'll find them everywhere."


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Megan.

Don't feel ashamed,  there is no shame in honesty and truth.
Many of us have been where you are now, it's tuff, hang in there, give it time.

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Faith

I'm still trying to find my center. I was multiple lucky when I told my wife of 35 years. Still not easy. My head has been mush since it happened

Take it sloooowww. Give her time to think and hopefully ask questions. Education and information is key.

It seems that the biggest fear for a spouse is losing their mate. You need to reaffirm that that she is still most important to you.

I still don't have the words to express but I feel what you're going through.
I left the door open, only a few came through. such is my life.
Bluesky:@faithnd.bsky.social

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2.B.Dana

As a fellow former marine I feel your pain. I was in similar shoes about 10 months ago although my sharing with my wife was a bit more planned. As others have said. Just breathe and take it one day at a time. She is processing what you have stewed on for literally decades. She will need some space. She needs to know whatever her response is, you will accept it. Hard, yes, but don't try to diminish or nullify her pain with cliches.

During boot camp as I went to sleep I always thought, no one died today, must have been a good day. I had that feeling many times over the last 10 months.

Remember, this is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine? Substitute "story" for rifle and it is truthful of your situation. You are not alone. While individual details may very, we all share a very common story. Draw strength from that and persevere.
Cheers,

Dana

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echo7

The topic of this thread is "I just told my wife", but really it should be "my wife found out".  Unfortunately, it is much worse when you are forced to tell her because she found out on her own, rather than you being open about it in the first place.

You broke the trust you had with her by hiding it from her, so it is going to be really difficult for her to believe anything you now try to say to comfort her or convince her.  You need to get a neutral third party involved.  See a therapist.  Your wife should see a therapist too.  And then also do joint therapy sessions in addition to your individual sessions.

Yes, you messed up, and it's going to be harder now, but not impossible. Make the phone calls and start scheduling therapy right away.  You can fix this, but take action right now.
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Sarah77

Jess..it's scary when you tell a partner. But the truth is good in a relationship.
There will be loads of questions.
Be calm. Be loving to each other.

I give you a big hug and wish you all the best..
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KathyLauren

Hi, Jess!

Welcome to Susan's.  Please feel free to stop by the Introductions forum to tell the members about yourself.

Coming out to your wife is probably the hardest thing to do on this journey.  And as Echo7 said, it is worse if she discovers you than if you had volunteered the information.

I do agree with the suggestions above to find a therapist ASAP.  You and your wife should both see a therapist individually as well as together.  Things will get better eventually, but I'll not lie, it will be rough going for a while.  Hang in there.

Here is some information that we like to share with new members:

Things that you should read





2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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RobynTx

I'll echo what the others have said.  Give her time to come to terms with this.  You've had most of your life dealing with it and now she was given seconds.  She is going to wonder what she did wrong.  She is going to wonder what you did wrong.  No one did anything wrong.  She is mainly going to wonder why you didn't tell her years ago.  My wife sure the heck did.  That's what she was the most angry about, the fact that I hid this side of me for over 35 years.  We've been married for 19.75 years now and I just came out this summer.  Just give her time and answer any questions she has honestly. 


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JessStrong

Thank you for the support so far. I am in a very dark place right now, and I haven't been able to stop crying. I have too many emotions going on right now, and I am barely able to have a meaningful talk with my wife. She can't stop crying either. I scheduled a dr appt with my GP and I also scheduled an appt with a therapist who specializes in this, but that's not until later this month.

I feel an immense sense of guilt, and shame. More guilt that anything, because this isn't fair to her. She tells me, she married a man, her prince -not princess. She is struggling to know if we can be "together" ever again. I don't think I have ever felt this alone before in my entire life. I don't know what to do. She wants to cancel Thanksgiving next week at our house. I feel so awful.
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RobynD

Let me add to the chorus of those saying you have nothing to be ashamed of and as to how much she actually new beforehand, i don't know you as a couple, so that dynamic is not something i can comment much on, but i will say this: A lot of guilt over non-disclosure is misplaced in my opinion. What you may feel after the fact this traumatic event could be that and what you really may be experiencing is self-awareness rising to the point of action.

Couples never sign up for the " I'll never change our entire marriage plan". It is unfathomable. Yep you are the same person you've always been her spouse but you change. We all do. Sometimes those changes pull us close, sometimes those changes pull us apart. 

I personally think we give way to much emphasis on gender in much of society and in the totally wrong ways. If you use terms like hey i was a Marine what does it mean..(maybe...great, brave, leadership, traditionally masculine ventures) or Prince (very masculine term that sort of means, you are her champion and traditionally male place of honor etc). I call my boyfriend my prince all the time and i know what i am trying to communicate there.

i think we sometimes show our own bias and in that way our loved ones can pick pick up on it. The truth is that those terms above are largely BOTH feminine and masculine. You are still her brave soldier and her champion. Your disclosure and desires change none of that.

It is scary to face such pain and potential loss about someone we love. Therapy will be invaluable to the future of your relationship so i also encourage you both to go there. Whatever happens though, you are you and our loved ones need to love us not according to our role, not according to the idea or image of us, but us as people. That doesn't mean her hands or tied or she is trapped in any way, but love means we choose to figure it all out in the kindest way possible for both people.






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JessStrong

Quote from: RobynD on November 17, 2017, 03:39:46 PM
Let me add to the chorus of those saying you have nothing to be ashamed of and as to how much she actually new beforehand, i don't know you as a couple, so that dynamic is not something i can comment much on, but i will say this: A lot of guilt over non-disclosure is misplaced in my opinion. What you may feel after the fact this traumatic event could be that and what you really may be experiencing is self-awareness rising to the point of action.

Couples never sign up for the " I'll never change our entire marriage plan". It is unfathomable. Yep you are the same person you've always been her spouse but you change. We all do. Sometimes those changes pull us close, sometimes those changes pull us apart. 

I personally think we give way to much emphasis on gender in much of society and in the totally wrong ways. If you use terms like hey i was a Marine what does it mean..(maybe...great, brave, leadership, traditionally masculine ventures) or Prince (very masculine term that sort of means, you are her champion and traditionally male place of honor etc). I call my boyfriend my prince all the time and i know what i am trying to communicate there.

i think we sometimes show our own bias and in that way our loved ones can pick pick up on it. The truth is that those terms above are largely BOTH feminine and masculine. You are still her brave soldier and her champion. Your disclosure and desires change none of that.

It is scary to face such pain and potential loss about someone we love. Therapy will be invaluable to the future of your relationship so i also encourage you both to go there. Whatever happens though, you are you and our loved ones need to love us not according to our role, not according to the idea or image of us, but us as people. That doesn't mean her hands or tied or she is trapped in any way, but love means we choose to figure it all out in the kindest way possible for both people.


thank you. all of this helps, more than I can say.      I'm minute by minute right now.
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Another Nikki

It's rough at first.  And it's normal to wish you could unring the bell, but if you could, where would you be?  What worked for us was coming out, then doing nothing.  Keep life as it was for a while.  Offer to talk about it, but don't make it the centroid of your lives.  Then slowly, ask questions or gently bring up topics.  My wife was greatly helped by reading Anne Vitale's grouping of trans people (Team Group 3!!!!).  It helped her understand what I went through.  I was also totally honest about that side of me for the first time ever, and she could see the anguish.  If you're able to compromise on some things so she feels like it's "us" and not "I" it may help.  Good luck, my heart goes out to you both.  Give it time.  It's been 20 months and our relationship is deeper, closer and better than it's been in the past 25 years.  I'm fortunate that I'm able to take the scenic route in this journey and not the express line.   Not everyone is.

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm
"What you know, you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life—that there is something wrong. You don't know what it is, but it's there like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me."
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JessStrong

Quote from: Another Nikki on November 17, 2017, 04:24:14 PM
It's rough at first.  And it's normal to wish you could unring the bell, but if you could, where would you be?  What worked for us was coming out, then doing nothing.  Keep life as it was for a while.  Offer to talk about it, but don't make it the centroid of your lives.  Then slowly, ask questions or gently bring up topics.  My wife was greatly helped by reading Anne Vitale's grouping of trans people (Team Group 3!!!!).  It helped her understand what I went through.  I was also totally honest about that side of me for the first time ever, and she could see the anguish.  If you're able to compromise on some things so she feels like it's "us" and not "I" it may help.  Good luck, my heart goes out to you both.  Give it time.  It's been 20 months and our relationship is deeper, closer and better than it's been in the past 25 years.  I'm fortunate that I'm able to take the scenic route in this journey and not the express line.   Not everyone is.

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm


I am SOOO group 3 according to the link above! Perhaps my guilt should be redirected, maybe this is actually "normal" for me but societal constraints have made me hide under cover. Thank you for the knowledge, this is a good read so far.

Tonight has been interesting. We ate dinner together, and we are talking... dancing around the elephant  in the room, but I'll take it. We both love each other deeply, but I know she is devastated. Maybe we can even cuddle while watching a dvr episode of This is Us. here's to hoping.....
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tgirlamg

Quote from: JessStrong on November 17, 2017, 06:18:44 PM

I am SOOO group 3 according to the link above! Perhaps my guilt should be redirected, maybe this is actually "normal" for me but societal constraints have made me hide under cover. Thank you for the knowledge, this is a good read so far.

Tonight has been interesting. We ate dinner together, and we are talking... dancing around the elephant  in the room, but I'll take it. We both love each other deeply, but I know she is devastated. Maybe we can even cuddle while watching a dvr episode of This is Us. here's to hoping.....

Jess!

Welcome aboard!!!... I am sorry things began to unfold in a manner other than the manner you might have chosen in an ideal world but, believe me... your new big sister! 😀 All will be well...

I have seen many a " reveal " go a little rough in the beginning ... by no means is that a sign of how things ultimately settle out.... it is a large rabbit indeed to pull from the hat in the middle of a marriage ...so, often time is need for the partner to process and get to the point where they can see that life may even be better with a rabbit

🐰<{Hi Everybody!!!}

My take ...as a fellow group 3 girl, is that at some point this is something that was going to need to be dealt with... the segue might not have been as smooth as you would choose but, maybe you will find that dealing with this stuff at this time in your life to be the best thing that could have ever happened

I wrote a few words today about fear today that may be of value as you move ahead

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,230730.0.html

You are amongst a very good group of caring people here who have found ways to make their lives work in amazing ways and want to help you, as best we can, as you navigate your life from here... carry hope in your heart and move ahead...ever forward...


Onward we go !!!

Ashley :)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Jessica

Quote from: Another Nikki on November 17, 2017, 04:24:14 PM
It's rough at first.  And it's normal to wish you could unring the bell, but if you could, where would you be?  What worked for us was coming out, then doing nothing.  Keep life as it was for a while.  Offer to talk about it, but don't make it the centroid of your lives.  Then slowly, ask questions or gently bring up topics.  My wife was greatly helped by reading Anne Vitale's grouping of trans people (Team Group 3!!!!).  It helped her understand what I went through.  I was also totally honest about that side of me for the first time ever, and she could see the anguish.  If you're able to compromise on some things so she feels like it's "us" and not "I" it may help.  Good luck, my heart goes out to you both.  Give it time.  It's been 20 months and our relationship is deeper, closer and better than it's been in the past 25 years.  I'm fortunate that I'm able to take the scenic route in this journey and not the express line.   Not everyone is.

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

That was a very good read.  I am definitely a group 3 girl.

"If you go out looking for friends, you are going to find they are very scarce.  If you go out to be a friend, you'll find them everywhere."


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