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Started by PurpleWolf, December 24, 2017, 05:02:14 PM

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PurpleWolf


Share here things that have helped you to get rid of shame!!! Anything goes!

Feel free also to make a confession of things that have caused you shame or are causing you shame. Trans related - or not! Sharing is letting go of it,  ;).

At first take a look at these:
7 Things to Remember When You Think You're Not Good Enough
https://tinybuddha.com/blog/7-things-to-remember-when-you-think-youre-not-good-enough/

Shutting Shame Down
https://experiencelife.com/article/shutting-shame-down/

Healing Shame
http://www.psychsight.com/ar-shame.html
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HappyMoni

I think acquiring understanding of things helps fight shame. I now know there is no legitimate reason for me to be ashamed of being trans. I have dismissed it. I highly recommend pride instead, although that is something that comes and goes at this stage of my transition. I think I feel shame now if I hurt someone else. I try never to do that, but sometimes it happens. Shame is really a very counterproductive emotion. Well, unless you really screwed up and deserve it.
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KathyLauren

Shame is about who you are; guilt is about what you have done.  If I screw up and hurt someone, I will think, "Oh, I shouldn't have done that; I should make amends."  That is guilt.  But I will not think, "Oh, I am a terrible person because I did that."  That would be shame.

I did at one time feel shame over cross-dressing because I believed I must be a pervert.  But I got over that.  I realized that there was nothing pervy about it if it didn't hurt anyone.

I have probably done things I should feel guilty about, but I am not ashamed of who I am. 
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Gertrude

Therapy and understanding that Shane loves secrets. That's one of the places it hides, becoming toxic.


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JoanneB

Shame.... one of my two oldest and (not so) dearest friends. The other being Guilt. They share the same shoulder and have some way of deciding who sits closer to my ear. Not that they need to since their relentless screaming garners the most attention most of the time. One the other shoulder sits, I think, is Joy & Happiness. For whatever reason, they feel a soft quiet whisper is all that is needed to make the point.

Whenever I think I quieted those two devils down to a mere whisper, Shame for sure grows a new set of lungs while Guilt, no mater how voiceless, is unrelenting. The periodicity of the cycles always change and unpredictable. As is the intensity of Shames voice.

Perhaps in death? Or will I just be condemned to sharing an eternity with them alone? Can Shame truly ever be vanquished when all around you in many 2x4 up the side of the head or countless subtle ways I'm reminded what a POS I am for being trans as well as the affects it has etched into me?
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Bari Jo

I've started a thread about this topic too since its my least favorite part of me.  Every time I think ive beaten it, it comes back in a new and diabolic way.  I've been ignoring it by trying to absorb myself into anything else.  However, maybe it's healthier to confront it.  I see in a previous thread that it's better to turn transphobia into pride.  Damn that is hard.  I've been accepting myself as trans, but I'm realizing accepting does not mean I have pride in being trans.  This is where I am stuck moving forward.  So far the only thing that is truly helping is being me publicly.  This might be a small way, of say buying a pair of shoes or a purse.  I just go right in and tell the salesperson it's for me.  That at least makes the shame go away for a while.  I'm treated nicely because they want my business.  However, it shows me that I can function, that alone is something.

a previous response stated we feel like a terrible person, yes that's my shame, not that I have done anything except feel broken by many of society standards.  In fact by most standards I'm a good person, caring, driven, nice.  However, that's my male self people are judging and interacting with.  I believe the more I am out and being accepted and judged as a good person then the shame will dissipate.  I can't say for sure, but that's what I'm holding onto.

Bari Jo
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10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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DawnOday

My shame disappeared when the people who matter most acknowledged my transition on HRT. Guilt on the other hand has taken a little longer mostly about denying myself for so long. To think the depression I have always had could have been treated with the proper prescription "E"
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PurpleWolf


32 Facts to Remember When People Are Unsupportive & Don't "Get You"
https://www.thedailypositive.com/32-facts-to-remember-when-people-are-unsupportive/

I recommend you read the whole thing but here are the best bits:


17.When it comes to making heart-led decisions to follow your own goals/dreams – be those personal or professional, be those small or big – you do not need to justify or explain those decisions to ANYONE. You cannot evidence or prove with fact what you simply know in your gut to be right for you... it's called intuition. Intuition is your best navigational tool and sometimes there is no explanation for where it leads you. It is your soul speaking to you, it guides you into your purpose in life. Intuition is just as valid and real as logic.

18.When authentically and courageously owning your purpose on this planet and doing what you know in your heart you are called to do... then in the face of anyone who judges you, who excludes you, who questions your logic, method or motive with negativity – remember, they are simply projecting their own pain. They have nothing to add and no value to offer you. Their negative energy is a reflection of their own inner blocks and their own life lessons to learn. You need not be drawn into that vortex. It is not your job to fix them, to change their minds, to help them or to be a victim of their barrage. Draw boundaries, cut ties, move on and you will always flow into the path of people who "get you" when you finally have the courage to remove those who don't.

19.When following your dreams, there will be people in your support network who give you advice and offer help. They will do so out of their love for you. Some of it will be invaluable. Some of it will be completely misguided and have the power to sabotage you. It most likely will come from the people who might "get you" personally but don't get what you are doing or why you are doing it. They may not understand that you are led by your inner voice. They will want to protect you from yourself, from making mistakes and from suffering unnecessary "failure" (their own scenario planning of all the 'what ifs' that could occur as you step out bravely in your life). Their love for you is what lies behind this advice, but what also lies behind this is their own fear. Be peaceful in the face of their fear, it is not their fault. Fear has a way of taking over people. You can witness it and be loving, and then continue walking your path forward irrespective.

22.The primary reason you want people to understand you is because you want reassurance that who you are is okay, that what you want to do is the "right" thing, and you want people to trumpet that support around you to make you feel more secure and sure on your path. You may want this, and most people do. But do not mistake want for need. You do NOT need that. You can forge a path of truth, passion, purpose, creativity, abundance and excitement, and live your full life and achieve your greatest potential and contribution into this world and not have one single person supporting you while you do so! It does not matter. What matters is that you did what you were put on this planet to do.

23.When you feel lonely, and you sense that no one is with you in your path, and you wish you were understood and that you had people around you to wrap you in love... remember this – there is a transition period that occurs when you step up to live as the real you, creating change and making new things happen (transforming inside of yourself or outside of yourself). In that transition period you step beyond the stories and limitations you once lived within, you step beyond the illusion of who you thought you were, what you thought was important and instead become more of who you really are underneath (deep in your heart – your soul self). Often when this happens you start to notice that the people you spent most of your time with before suddenly do not resonate with you or you do not resonate with them. It can feel lonely. That is very normal. As you transition, you will flow into new people that resonate with you and you will form new networks more aligned to your purpose and your values. It is does NOT mean that new connections replace your existing network. It means your network grows. You enrich your life with more love and more people. You will have those who knew you before who do not get the 'new you'. You will have those that have known you always and stayed with you on your path (embracing you in all stages of your evolution – personally or professionally). And, you will have those who you meet on the other side of your transformation and transition. The more the merrier!

24.FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS POINT – When you realise people in your network (family, friends, acquaintances, colleagues) don't get you and don't support you, there is a moment where you are faced with two options. Your courageous heart and your "soul reason" for being alive would choose one option, while your fear and need for acceptance and belonging would choose the other. Here are the options – (A) You play small. You stay quiet. You silence your voice. You ignore your knowing. You avoid standing out. You toe the line. You align your life to keep the peace. You make other people's expectations the guiding force of your life. You do what it takes not to 'rock the boat', to ensure acceptance, to stay with the crowd. You cling to the desire to be liked and supported (even if by people you really don't need to be liked or supported by!). You forgo you own needs, or (B) You play a big game and walk life in total alignment with your own inner voice and values. You say what you believe. You lovingly express what you know to be true for you. You realise that staying small would suffocate your soul and keep you from succeeding in your purpose/career/profession and personal life. You realise that the price you pay for standing out and no longer 'fitting' within your existing familiar network of people is a small price to pay in order for you to live the life you were put here to live. You have this ONE life, it is fleeting in the scheme of all of eternity – so what the freaking heck are going to do with it? Please, please, please – play a big game. The world needs people just like you to stand up and choose option B.

26.Your thriving and success, when executed from absolute authenticity, integrity and completely aligned to your intuition, is NEVER of disservice to anyone. The notion that you doing what is best for your mind/body/soul is somehow selfish or in any way the "wrong" thing for someone else, is downright BS. Do not be upset if you have bought into that BS illusion in the past, simply know that you have greater awareness now and it's time to offload the weight you've been carrying and to embrace your freedom.

28.Everyone will have an opinion, and many people will try to force you to live in alignment with their opinions. Opinions are aligned to beliefs. Everyone believes different things. You will never satisfy everyone, nor align to everyone's beliefs and their view of the world and who they "think you should be". And none of that matters. You were not born to meet the expectations of others. You were born to meet your soul's purpose and that is all.

30.Take the emotional pain of not being understood by unsupportive people and use it as fuel for your mission to live in alignment with your truth and to create the goals/dreams that are most meaningful to you. Show yourself you can do it, no matter what any one else says. Add the pain to your sense of purpose, and let that combined energy catapult you forward.
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Kylo

Since shame is a socially enforced emotion - something you feel mostly in the presence of others or when you imagine yourself in the eyes of others - it's all down to whether:

a) you believe others are actually intrinsically superior to you
b) whether you've committed anything truly worth being ashamed of in the first place.

Take care of those ideas and you can take care of shame.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Gertrude

Quote from: Viktor on December 25, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Since shame is a socially enforced emotion - something you feel mostly in the presence of others or when you imagine yourself in the eyes of others - it's all down to whether:

a) you believe others are actually intrinsically superior to you
b) whether you've committed anything truly worth being ashamed of in the first place.

Take care of those ideas and you can take care of shame.
Things can trigger. Over the weekend my wife found me in our closet and asked what trouble I was up to. I was always harangued as a kid for getting into ->-bleeped-<-, when I really wasn't doing anything wrong.


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Kylo

Being harassed and treated as guilty is definitely part of it. But that's on their end. On your end you can achieve a state in which you don't allow whatever they are saying or doing to convince you that feeling shame is warranted. Then they just become an irritant. 
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Julia1996

I've never been the slightest bit ashamed of being trans. I didn't choose this, it's not like I'm doing anything wrong. I've had people try to shame me (mostly my grandpa and uncle) and it always got an extremely hostile and hateful response from me. My mom told me I should be ashamed of wanting to transition but she only said it once. When she told me that I told her the only thing I was ashamed of was having her as a mother. And once when my uncle told me I should be ashamed to be seen with make-up on i told him the only thing that was a shame was that he survived the heart attack he had. Was that an awful thing to say? Of course it was. Do I feel bad for saying it? Absolutely not! I don't have a bad temper usually but someone trying to shame me for being trans totally infuriates me and I'm liable to say something really mean that cuts someone to the bone. I can't help myself. The way I see it it's the same as telling someone with a cleft pallet that they should be ashamed of being born that way.

I get annoyed when I read posts on here about the shame some people have about being trans. Not annoyed at the person posting it, annoyed that society has made them feel like it's shameful to be trans. I hate being trans but at the same time I totally have no shame about it and never will. Trans people have NO reason to be ashamed.  We had absolutely no choice in the matter.  Shaming a person who is trans is like shaming someone because they were born with brown eyes. It's just stupid and ignorant.
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Bari Jo

Quote from: Julia1996 on December 27, 2017, 07:07:18 AM
I've never been the slightest bit ashamed of being trans. I didn't choose this, it's not like I'm doing anything wrong. I've had people try to shame me (mostly my grandpa and uncle) and it always got an extremely hostile and hateful response from me. My mom told me I should be ashamed of wanting to transition but she only said it once. When she told me that I told her the only thing I was ashamed of was having her as a mother. And once when my uncle told me I should be ashamed to be seen with make-up on i told him the only thing that was a shame was that he survived the heart attack he had. Was that an awful thing to say? Of course it was. Do I feel bad for saying it? Absolutely not! I don't have a bad temper usually but someone trying to shame me for being trans totally infuriates me and I'm liable to say something really mean that cuts someone to the bone. I can't help myself. The way I see it it's the same as telling someone with a cleft pallet that they should be ashamed of being born that way.

I get annoyed when I read posts on here about the shame some people have about being trans. Not annoyed at the person posting it, annoyed that society has made them feel like it's shameful to be trans. I hate being trans but at the same time I totally have no shame about it and never will. Trans people have NO reason to be ashamed.  We had absolutely no choice in the matter.  Shaming a person who is trans is like shaming someone because they were born with brown eyes. It's just stupid and ignorant.

Society is sooo much better today than it was.  I can see basic acceptance everywhere, well nearly everywhere.  For me the shame still exists for a couple reasons.  I grew up where it was beaten into you that it was deviant to be trans, and considered a mental disorder.  Heck one of the only glimmer of trans on TV  corporate klinger on mash.  He has a normal person that pretended to be trans to get a section 8 discharge from the military.  It never worked for him because his superiors knew he wasn't trans, it was all a ploy.  Imagine that mainstream TV showing that you are unfit if you are trans.  That hit home every week.  The other reason is my lack of passibility.  I am working on that, but social acceptance for me will require that, and that acceptance will hopefully make me feel less shame as being trans.  Society is better though, people are changing their minds about us, thank dog.

Dammit I have brown (hazel) eyes and just read I should feel shame about that (joke).

Bari Jo
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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krobinson103

I feel no shame regarding transitioning. I feel a bit of apprehension over the possible consequences. However, the shame would be living a lie for the rest of my life knowing I could do better. That I can't live with.
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Allison S

I knew if I just "do it" and take the plunge to start hrt that I wouldn't look back. This was years ago that I'd thought about transitioning but I didn't go through with it until 3 months. So far I think I was right. Now my family is slowly starting to see the changes when I see them on occasion. It's easier if they just ask me. In my mind it's like it's already "done" why would I feel ashamed about it?

One thing I didn't want for myself was to tell my family this is something I wanted to do and for them to have a say. I already knos they're against transitioning so why burden myself with wanting their acceptance? And then what do I have to feel ashamed about- for helping myself?

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SashaHyde

I let go of shame a long time ago. I'm bisexual and struggled to figure that out for a long long time. A few year ago I just decided to not give it power. I think theres many types of shame. I still wouldnt currently dress en femme and walk around outside. That might be fear for my own safetly but I think fear has a relationship with shame. Its almost as if Fear + Guilt = Shame.
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Shy

I think for me, especially with the generation that I grew up in, that shame was a tool used to prevent people from being themselves.
Although society appears to be free for many of us on the surface, underneath it all is an undercurrent of control and intolerance from a thousand and one sources, including ourselves. None of us are immune, we are a product of our environments.
Many of us have carried internalised transphobia not because of who we are but because the things we have been taught from an early age, that it's not o.k. to be who we are. To survive we hide and when you hide from something shame will soon follow.
So in my view shame is a social construct and to get rid of shame you have to find the strength to swim against the tide of intolerance and ignorance, to simply be yourself. When enough people stand up to injustice society will evolve to accommodate change, because the very people who are causing pain for many of us will not want to be seen as the bad guys and themselves a target of shame.

Peace and love and all that good stuff,

Sadie
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PurpleWolf

Quote from: Shy on January 27, 2018, 04:29:24 AM
None of us are immune, we are a product of our environments.
Many of us have carried internalised transphobia not because of who we are but because the things we have been taught from an early age, that it's not o.k. to be who we are. To survive we hide and when you hide from something shame will soon follow.
That sounds like my childhood...

Quote from: Shy on January 27, 2018, 04:29:24 AM
So in my view shame is a social construct and to get rid of shame you have to find the strength to swim against the tide of intolerance and ignorance, to simply be yourself. When enough people stand up to injustice society will evolve to accommodate change, because the very people who are causing pain for many of us will not want to be seen as the bad guys and themselves a target of shame.
Beautiful  :)!!!
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This is where life begins for me. It's a miracle I finally got it done.


My body is the home of my soul; not the other way around.

I'm more than anything an individual; I'm too complex to be put in any box.

- A social butterfly not living in social isolation anymore  ;D -
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The past is overrated - why stick with it when you are able to recreate yourself every day
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Idaliaylix

Oh, more than I even know where to begin with.   :'(  Mental health issues, transgressions in the recent past, distant past, almost everything.  I'll just keep it to the trans-related stuff here.

My sexuality is a major factor contributing to worsening shame and self-loathing.  I've internalized so much homophobia/lesbophobia from many directions, and a combination of always having felt alienated from both mainstream life and culture as well as the 'LGBT community' because of my inclinations, the recent public backlash against transsexual visibility, and the vitriolic hatred for women like myself so prevalent among other lesbians has left me feeling intensely ashamed and isolated.  Being trans, non-op and lesbian makes me feel triple-marginalized with respect to sexuality, and it's reached the point where I've been increasingly turning to unhealthy coping mechanisms such as prescription drug (over)use and self-harm to cope with the internal disgust that accompanies having sexual feelings, thoughts, urges, etc.  I feel repulsive and honestly wish I didn't have a sexuality at all much of the time.
"...what I seem to be is the monkey wrench in the machinery of everyone's sexual politics...it gets awfully frustrating at times.  What I really am is a paradox in that "transsexual" just doesn't fit into my identity, who I am to myself.  In other words, what I've been through is terribly interesting, but I have no interest in using it to say who I am."

"The transsexual experience, while a major survival issue, is not the central identity-defining factor in our lives, even though it is seen as what makes us different from other people. Despite its magnitude and intensity, it is, in the long run, merely a preliminary step to getting on with our lives."


--Beth Elliott, Mirrors, Portrait of a Lesbian Transsexual

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PurpleWolf

Quote from: Idaliaylix on March 02, 2018, 03:02:52 AM
Oh, more than I even know where to begin with.   :'(  Mental health issues, transgressions in the recent past, distant past, almost everything.  I'll just keep it to the trans-related stuff here.

My sexuality is a major factor contributing to worsening shame and self-loathing.  I've internalized so much homophobia/lesbophobia from many directions, and a combination of always having felt alienated from both mainstream life and culture as well as the 'LGBT community' because of my inclinations, the recent public backlash against transsexual visibility, and the vitriolic hatred for women like myself so prevalent among other lesbians has left me feeling intensely ashamed and isolated.  Being trans, non-op and lesbian makes me feel triple-marginalized with respect to sexuality, and it's reached the point where I've been increasingly turning to unhealthy coping mechanisms such as prescription drug (over)use and self-harm to cope with the internal disgust that accompanies having sexual feelings, thoughts, urges, etc.  I feel repulsive and honestly wish I didn't have a sexuality at all much of the time.
I'm sorry to hear that  :-\ :'(!
You definitely have a right to sexuality!!!!
Everyone does. You don't need to feel ashamed for it.
!!!REBIRTH=legal name change on Feb 16th 2018!!!
This is where life begins for me. It's a miracle I finally got it done.


My body is the home of my soul; not the other way around.

I'm more than anything an individual; I'm too complex to be put in any box.

- A social butterfly not living in social isolation anymore  ;D -
(Highly approachable but difficult to grasp)


The past is overrated - why stick with it when you are able to recreate yourself every day
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