Jess’s mess

[Jessica]

Thank you Marie Kondo!  Because of her I have a new wardrobe.....
Happily my wife is around the same size and I gained about 8 dresses, a dozen tops, 3  cute sweaters and 4 jackets.  Her pants would never fit, her legs are several inches longer than mine.
They all bring me happiness.

Now, how to make it all work.....

Hugs and smiles from a California girl

[Jessica]

Well friends, it looks more like empty platitudes from my running gal pal.  She evidently doesn't want to continue running together.  Whether or not it is directed towards not wanting to run with me or running in general, but I've left the door open to be friends again if she wishes. 
I'm not holding my breath.

[sarah1972]

Oh No, Jessica. I am so sorry to read this post. We all have been crossing our fingers that you can patch up things with your BRF (Best Running Friend). I really hope it is just that she does not want to run but still be friends again.

Stay strong Jessica!

Hugs,

Sarah

Well friends, it looks more like empty platitudes from my running gal pal.  She evidently doesn't want to continue running together.  Whether or not it is directed towards not wanting to run with me or running in general, but I've left the door open to be friends again if she wishes. 
I'm not holding my breath.

[Jessica]

@sarah1972

Oh No, Jessica. I am so sorry to read this post. We all have been crossing our fingers that you can patch up things with your BRF (Best Running Friend). I really hope it is just that she does not want to run but still be friends again.

Stay strong Jessica!

Hugs,

Sarah

Thank you Sarah.....I'm still trying to understand why she reacted so dramatically to my insecurity in October.  It wasn't so over the top that would warrant the end of a friendship.

Like I said ...I'm not holding my breath, but it may become awkward when my wife invites her for upcoming summer parties in our oasis.

[Northern Star Girl]

Well friends, it looks more like empty platitudes from my running gal pal.  She evidently doesn't want to continue running together.  Whether or not it is directed towards not wanting to run with me or running in general, but I've left the door open to be friends again if she wishes. 
I'm not holding my breath.

@Jessica
Dear Jess:
I am always wishing the best for you ...  I was disheartened to read your latest report about your "running gal pal" ...
based on your previous report I know that your hopes were lifted by her apparent desire to run with you again and perhaps renew your mutual friendship.   I know that you stated that you were taking it slow with that possible progress...   

Possibly as @sarah1972 commented it could be that she just doesn't want to run???  In situations like that I do not give up easily, while I wouldn't suggest pushing your friendship on her, in your place I would still extend friendly greetings and pleasantries, perhaps with casual meetings or coffee time with some of the other running group ladies included.   She may be getting pressure from others to distance herself from you so that could be a factor as well.

Please stay positive....   when all else fails, smile, be friendly, and try to not harbor bad feelings that can be personally and mentally destructive to your own happiness and success.

As always, I am one of your biggest fans and I am always rooting for your successes in all areas in your life, with your sweetie, with your social friends and with your Forums friends.
BIG HUGS, [emoji171]
Danielle

[Donica]

Well, I guess that's all you can do Jess. I mean you did leave the door open. Maybe if you bumped into her one day on one of your runs? Or would that be creepy?

[Jessica]

@Alaskan Danielle  @Donica

@Jessica
Dear Jess:
I am always wishing the best for you ...  I was disheartened to read your latest report about your "running gal pal" ...
based on your previous report I know that your hopes were lifted by her apparent desire to run with you again and perhaps renew your mutual friendship.   I know that you stated that you were taking it slow with that possible progress...   

Possibly as @sarah1972 commented it could be that she just doesn't want to run???  In situations like that I do not give up easily, while I wouldn't suggest pushing your friendship on her, in your place I would still extend friendly greetings and pleasantries, perhaps with casual meetings or coffee time with some of the other running group ladies included.   She may be getting pressure from others to distance herself from you so that could be a factor as well.

Please stay positive....   when all else fails, smile, be friendly, and try to not harbor bad feelings that can be personally and mentally destructive to your own happiness and success.

As always, I am one of your biggest fans and I am always rooting for your successes in all areas in your life, with your sweetie, with your social friends and with your Forums friends.
BIG HUGS, [emoji171]
Danielle

Well, I guess that's all you can do Jess. I mean you did leave the door open. Maybe if you bumped into her one day on one of your runs? Or would that be creepy?

Thank you Danielle and Donica 🌸🌸🌸
My running gal pal truly doesn't want to run, she was already hedging towards that before.  She has her own personal reasons for that.
At this point I may try asking to meet for coffee or let it go until we actually do cross paths and see what happens.
She wouldn't be getting pressure from any other gals in the running group.  One doesn't know and isn't running due to a bum knee, one other knows but is supportive of myself, and my wife has only just reunited with her.
You know me, I don't stay down long.  There is much in life that makes me smile.

Hugs and smiles, Jess

[LizK]

Well friends, it looks more like empty platitudes from my running gal pal.  She evidently doesn't want to continue running together.  Whether or not it is directed towards not wanting to run with me or running in general, but I've left the door open to be friends again if she wishes. 
I'm not holding my breath.

I don't really understand why people do these kinds of things. What ever happened to having the courage to say what you mean and mean what you say. I think its very generous of you to "leave the door open" Shows a real strength of character that maybe your friend is missing.

LizK

[Jessica]

@LizK

I don't really understand why people do these kinds of things. What ever happened to having the courage to say what you mean and mean what you say. I think its very generous of you to "leave the door open" Shows a real strength of character that maybe your friend is missing.

LizK

Liz, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.  She has other issues other than me in her life and I don't want to discount her need to do what she needs to do.
Yes I do miss her, she is still someone I consider to be a good, kind person.
If I react in the negative, negative is what I will receive.

[Jessica]

Onward through the fog.......
My endo has finally approved a prescription for Progesterone!
My big sis showed me an article that was just published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism that supports the need for progesterone in the transition of transgender women.
That seemed to tip the scales.


Yay for me 🌸🌸🌸 Jess

[Donica]

Onward through the fog.......
My endo has finally approved a prescription for Progesterone!
My big sis showed me an article that was just published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism that supports the need for progesterone in the transition of transgender women.
That seemed to tip the scales.

Yay for me 🌸🌸🌸 Jess

Would you share a link to that Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism article? I want to arm my self with more reasons why my Endo should prescribe Progesterone for me at my next visit with her.

[Dena]

I don't really understand why people do these kinds of things. What ever happened to having the courage to say what you mean and mean what you say. I think its very generous of you to "leave the door open" Shows a real strength of character that maybe your friend is missing.

LizK

Women don't always handle issue in a direct fashion. They operate in a group mode instead of at a personal level. It's possible she didn't want to confront the issue. She may not have wanted to hurt Jess's feelings face to face or it may be some other reason. Because there may be some social contact in the future, it's possible that there will be more information that will tell which it is. For the moment it becomes a waiting game and it's her move.

[LizK]

@LizK

Liz, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.  She has other issues other than me in her life and I don't want to discount her need to do what she needs to do.
Yes I do miss her, she is still someone I consider to be a good, kind person.
If I react in the negative, negative is what I will receive.

I hope you can work it out with her...[emoji847] It clearly means a great deal to you.

Liz


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[LizK]

Women don't always handle issue in a direct fashion. They operate in a group mode instead of at a personal level. It's possible she didn't want to confront the issue. She may not have wanted to hurt Jess's feelings face to face or it may be some other reason. Because there may be some social contact in the future, it's possible that there will be more information that will tell which it is. For the moment it becomes a waiting game and it's her move.

Great point Dena[emoji3]

I can see Jess is hurting I really hope you are right and she(Jess's friend) will make the next move in a positive manner.

Liz


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[Jessica]

Thank you for your magic keyboard Danielle.
Your broken wand has been replaced by 101 keys.
Unfortunately I found some dosages in that link so I removed it, but posted the body of the message with needed edits here

Hugs and smiles, Jess




cc: @Alaskan Danielle

[Linde]

Reading the article, I can only see that they are talking of progesterone in the presence of normal, but medically suppressed testosterone levels in trans women.  And it explains how progesterone my counter those testosterone disadvantages.  I cannot see anything about progesterone in trans women who do not have testicles anymore, and thus do not produce any significant amount of testosterone anymore.
Did I miss something in this report, or should one just draw the conclusion that we ladies, who do not sport testicles anymore, can be included into the positive effects of progesterone?

[Faith]

Reading the article, I can only see that they are talking of progesterone in the presence of normal, but medically suppressed testosterone levels in trans women.  And it explains how progesterone my counter those testosterone disadvantages.  I cannot see anything about progesterone in trans women who do not have testicles anymore, and thus do not produce any significant amount of testosterone anymore.
Did I miss something in this report, or should one just draw the conclusion that we ladies, who do not sport testicles anymore, can be included into the positive effects of progesterone?

The closest part that I read indicated daily use until orchi, then cyclic:

<snip> ... I suggest that transgender women's progesterone be given daily rather than cyclically, at least until orchiectomy and always at bedtime, because of its sleep-enhancing effects ... <snip>

I may ask about a lower dosage and try again. I know my moods suffered

[Linde]

The closest part that I read indicated daily use until orchi, then cyclic:

I may ask about a lower dosage and try again. I know my moods suffered

Please let us know, what your doc said.  I will see my Endo in about 4 weeks, but he is so full of himself (the guy had already several write ups in the Fort Myers and Cape Coral papers as being the #1 transgender Endo in southwestern Florida) that he might not even consider this!

[Jessica]

@Dietlind

Please let us know, what your doc said.  I will see my Endo in about 4 weeks, but he is so full of himself (the guy had already several write ups in the Fort Myers and Cape Coral papers as being the #1 transgender Endo in southwestern Florida) that he might not even consider this!

Linde, I started a new thread called Progesterone Is Important for Transgender Women's Therapy.  Check it out....

Hugs and smiles

[Linde]

@Dietlind

Linde, I started a new thread called Progesterone Is Important for Transgender Women's Therapy.  Check it out....

Hugs and smiles

Thanks Jessica!  I appreciate this!