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Started by Denise, February 23, 2018, 06:20:59 PM

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(See my 'dreaded Locker room' post) Would you ask or wouldn't you ask if they knew I was transgender?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!
28 (84.8%)
Sure.  Why not?
5 (15.2%)

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echo7

Denise, I understand why you want to ask the question because I felt the same way.  I wanted to ask the question because I wanted to know if I really did pass.  And you know what?  I did ask.  Here's what happened:  I joined several social groups and eventually became good friends with a few women.  We ended up meeting for lunch or dinner several times, just the two of us.  We got to know each other, talking for hours about all kinds of things.  We spent time together on outings to like the museum or whatever.  And it was usually in a one-on-one friends situation, so that we could get to know each other better.

After a while, I asked each of them separately and privately if they knew I was trans.  They were each very surprised and had no idea.  They thought I was just another woman like them.  It really boosted my confidence to know that I passed, even after many conversations and time spent with them.  And you know what else?  Our friendships became stronger because I shared a vulnerable part of myself.  They accepted me completely and we're still good friends to this day.

But for your specific situation, I'm not so sure I would ask.  For two reasons.  First, you took a class with them.  You didn't really spend a lot of time with them.  If you really want to know if you truly and fully pass, you want to ask the question after you spend a lot of time socializing with them.  Because in my opinion, the true test of passing is social, not physical.

Second reason, you were in a locker room with the other woman already.  It might make her feel very uncomfortable and awkward if she knows that you were transgender and possibly pre-op and all this time she was in the locker room with you.  A lot of cis people support trans people, but when it comes to the locker room issue, they take a harder stance.  It's better if they don't know.

So yes, I encourage you to ask the question as it may help you as it did me, but try to set up another scenario where you can do it.  Because of the reasons I explained above, I would not do it in this case.
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Northern Star Girl

#22
It is my opinion that if I were in that situation I would keep my mouth shut, smile and do my business and not respond and NOT ASK.  Why give anyone, particularly the persons that want to make an issue out of transgenders, the satisfaction of an argument that can not be won... no way I could ever nor anyone else could ever change their mind and their bigoted thinking no matter how I would debate the issue with them.  Silence is the loudest and most effective response. 
Regarding echo7's answer, I pretty well agree with mostly everything she stated.
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Jessica

Quote from: Denise on February 23, 2018, 06:38:34 PM
I don't understand your response.  I'm telling them I'm transgender.  What I'm really looking for is "Do I pass well enough in close quarters?"

Hi Denis, I think I misunderstood your question. I read it as you asking someone else if they were trans.  My apologies.  I still myself would not ask someone else if I pass, unless the conversation was heading that way.

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Allison S

How did I miss this topic?! Denise I would wanna ask too. But probably not do it. Then if it comes up randomly I would be bothered a bit. Do you think that plays a role in you wanting to know what they think?

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Julia1996

I often wonder how well I pass but I just go by how people react to me. I wouldn't ever ask someone because if they didn't know and I ask then they and everyone around them will know. I get very uncomfortable around non family members who know I'm trans. I attended my dad's Christmas party for work and everyone he works with knows I'm trans and I expected it to be awful but actually it was fine. No one said anything about me being trans. My dad introduced me to this one lady as Julia because he thought everyone knew I was his daughter. I got a very stiff hello from her and she got this disgusted look on her face and I thought ok, here it comes. She said " god Jack, she's young enough to be your daughter!"  He told her that's because I WAS his daughter. Lol. After that she was very friendly. Lol.
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mm

echo7, stated two good reasons for not asking.  There is so little good that can come from asking and so much bad.
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Charlie Nicki

I wouldn't ask, I don't see the point in doing it.
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Lady Lisandra

I'd say go for it. But don't go in serious mode, ask them to sit and say you have something important to say as if you were telling them they are going to die. I'd do it more casually. Have a simple chat and let go something about your "male" past like "When I was a boy..." or "I went to an all-male college" if that applies to you, and see their reactions.
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kitchentablepotpourri

This is a question that only you can answer, and be truly satisfied; and that will come when you you truly accept yourself.  If we need to ask someone if we pass then we are really saying please tell me I pass! And you are opening yourself up to a subjective opinion. And if you ask a few people, and they say you pass you feel good,  and then you walk across the street, and a few people say no, then you will feel bad untill someone else tells you you pass; and the cycle continues...

When you are out and about observe how people interact; and if they treat you equally the same, then you probably blended in and passed. This especially works well at a checkout line; observe how the clerk interacts with other customers, and when it's your turn try to be objective and observe any differences in the way you are treated.

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Denise

I had an opportunity after class to ask the instructor alone his response was matter of fact and conversational.  Then he went on to a new subject like I asked about the weather.

So no harm no foul no disaster.

Thanks for everyone's input and interest.

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Allison S



Quote from: Denise on February 27, 2018, 05:27:07 AM
I had an opportunity after class to ask the instructor alone his response was matter of fact and conversational.  Then he went on to a new subject like I asked about the weather.

So no harm no foul no disaster.

Thanks for everyone's input and interest.

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I knew that would be the case! That's why I said I would wanna ask too in my last reply lol

I have to disagree with some others. If you're insecure you're insecure no matter what. Now on the other hand, if you don't give a flying you know what then you just don't... especially, well specifically, with strangers!

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Cassi

I don't think the public in general is even sure what a Trans is.
HRT since 1/04/2018
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Denise

Interesting development.....

In order to get certified you need to make 4 "open water dives."  That means getting into a lake or ocean or some other body of water outside that's 60 feet deep (or so).  I was going to go to Las Vegas but the water temp there is in the low 50s then Phoenix and it wasn't much better.  So I decided I would go visit my parents in Florida (yes they know and accept me) and do my 4 open water dives in the ocean.

I was conversing with the other student and she decided that diving in the converted quarry in northern Illinois in May was not sounding like fun.  (It's very cold) So she's going to join me in Florida and we're going to buddy up and do the dives together.  She's going to stay with some friends in Sarasota.

This could be fun.  We're getting together next weekend for dinner.  You never know.
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SonadoraXVX

I think its so cool, your taking scuba diving. I hope you maybe able to pave the way towards instructorship in scuba diving(ie.stealth of course for you) and include tg's who may want to be able to scuba dive, but its cool if its for you. It was one of my hobbies I wanted to do pre hrt, as well as martial arts(GJJ/Gracie Jiu Jitsu/Combatives), once your on hrt, things change dramatically.

I wish you much success Denise and apologize if I seemed a naysayer in my opinion. Trailblaze it girl! :)
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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Denise on March 03, 2018, 12:26:41 AM
Interesting development.....

In order to get certified you need to make 4 "open water dives."  That means getting into a lake or ocean or some other body of water outside that's 60 feet deep (or so).  I was going to go to Las Vegas but the water temp there is in the low 50s then Phoenix and it wasn't much better.  So I decided I would go visit my parents in Florida (yes they know and accept me) and do my 4 open water dives in the ocean.

I was conversing with the other student and she decided that diving in the converted quarry in northern Illinois in May was not sounding like fun.  (It's very cold) So she's going to join me in Florida and we're going to buddy up and do the dives together.  She's going to stay with some friends in Sarasota.

This could be fun.  We're getting together next weekend for dinner.  You never know.

Denise:
YES, the warmer waters in Florida sound much better than the old quarry in Illinois!!!
I have never thought about Scuba Diving but I have done a lot of Snorkeling... especially in the much warmer waters of Hawaii, the Caribbean and just last November, the Great Barrier Reef in Australia  (the warmest water)...  it was wonderful..   
On the boat in Australia there were several Scuba Divers and one of them wanted me to take private lessons from him when we got off of the boat.  Hmmm, "private lessons"   ...   LOL
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Denise

Quote from: Aspiringperson on March 03, 2018, 09:33:48 AM
Denise:
YES, the warmer waters in Florida sound much better than the old quarry in Illinois!!!
I have never thought about Scuba Diving but I have done a lot of Snorkeling... especially in the much warmer waters of Hawaii, the Caribbean and just last November, the Great Barrier Reef in Australia  (the warmest water)...  it was wonderful..   
On the boat in Australia there were several Scuba Divers and one of them wanted me to take private lessons from him when we got off of the boat.  Hmmm, "private lessons"   ...   LOL
Aspiringperson
I just booked a week long dive trip to Hawaii for labor day week.  I can't wait.

I assume you didn't get the (cough cough) "private lessons". (I ask with a smile on my face.


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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Denise on March 03, 2018, 10:04:14 AM
I just booked a week long dive trip to Hawaii for labor day week.  I can't wait.

I assume you didn't get the (cough cough) "private lessons". (I ask with a smile on my face.


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No, I did not take him up on the private lessons....  I think that looking back about that ... I regret it now.
The good thing about diving and snorkeling with wet-suits and with the sting-suits I had in Australia ... they are tight fitting and show off the curves, now that I have curves that is a good thing.
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Denise

Quote from: Aspiringperson on March 03, 2018, 10:15:06 AM
No, I did not take him up on the private lessons....  I think that looking back about that ... I regret it now.
The good thing about diving and snorkeling with wet-suits and with the sting-suits I had in Australia ... they are tight fitting and show off the curves, now that I have curves that is a good thing.
Like this?  I hear ya sister!

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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Denise on March 03, 2018, 11:23:03 AM
Like this?  I hear ya sister!

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@ Denise:

EXACTLY !!!
   
Those suits show just about all... maybe that's why I was offered "private lessons"  >:-) 
In your case it is good that the suits show the curves, you look great.  Thanks for sharing your wet-suit photo.
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