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Nursing homes and transgender elder care

Started by Tracey, March 17, 2018, 09:06:52 AM

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Devlyn

A lot of us here including myself are, ahem, not spring chickens.  :laugh:

This is not a pleasant, bubbly topic. Searching google for transgender senior care paints a bleak picture. Are any of you thinking about this yet?

There was a heartbreaking thread here several years ago about a transgender woman with Alzheimer's. If you know the progression of the disease, you are frequently left with your oldest memories, and for a MTF those are memories of being male.

As I said, this isn't fun stuff, but it's a conversation that needs to happen at some point.

Hugs, Devlyn

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Quinn

I have actually been thinking about this topic myself for awhile now.
I'm 10 months into my transition and not out yet to anyone except my mother. I'm 51  have a daughter 33 and a son 30 have not come out to them yet on purpose because I know my kids cannot keep a secret to save their life lol. I'm still working things out but the topic has come up before with my kids. My son has issues and would not ever be able to take care of me as I age, my daughter said there was no way she is going to change my diaper when it comes that time she is going to ship me off to a nursing home.
She was joking in a sense but I think she also does not want the responsibility of my elderly care.

So this has been on my mind if I will be totally left on my own once I finish transition and go full time

The thoughts of being transgender and at the mercy of whoever works in nursing home that week. The possibility of abuse of the elderly in a nursing home is fairly good chance at one time or another for cis person, for someone that is transgender the chance goes up.
There is a lot of turnover in those homes low pay just makes it more likely

I have been thinking about this on how to handle it but this will not deter me from transition

Devlyn  this is a great topic for a lot of us   Thank you  I hope this post gets a lot of love
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Kylo

I've seen people with dementia and honestly have no idea what it must be like. Some of them look completely lost and hopeless, others just seem like they inhabit different frames of mind and personality from one moment to the next. I can't say if it's horrible or not for some of them. But I wouldn't want to get it.

If I did get it... I don't know if the gender thing would bother me as I've never identified myself as female in the first place. Maybe some memories of feeling lousy and freakish would come back, but they've never been excruciating as such, or totally disorienting. Unlike some, I've never been as driven as far as suicide or major depression due to the issue of gender, and those early memories are more neutral or "absent" of gender than gendered and distressing. I'd probably suffer from remembering other traumatic events instead, I guess. There are plenty of those in the memory banks.

I can possibly imagine what it might be like because when I wake up from a very deep sleep, for a second I sometimes have no idea who or where I am. I don't know if anyone else gets that, but I do occasionally. It takes a moment for my brain to access the hard disk or something. Maybe it's like an extended version of that. Whether it would be terrifying I don't know... I've never been too bothered about it when it happens. Sometimes it's the result of a vivid dream where I'm someone else, and I have to "recall" who I am on waking up. Sometimes it just seems like waking up and feeling first blank consciousness, before self.

Dementia's just a tragic condition for both the patient and the people who care for the patient, who are often trying their best to do what makes the person happy, but it's all too erratic for them to satisfy. I guess I just hope we figure out better ways to stave it off or prevent it in future. Eat right, stay active/keep your circulation healthy, exercise/challenge your brain rather than sit in front of the TV etc. 

Blueberries contain a chemical that helps in generating new brain cells. I've been eating them regularly for several months and quite honestly my post-hypothyroid memory lapse issues have vanished.

As for the issue of care, I'm not sure I could live with it. The idea of being dependent physically on someone else is one I don't want to face but I know it's potentially there. I know people - like family members - will look after others out of obligation but some of them secretly hate every second of it, and I wouldn't want that. Like the idea of having a stroke and being part crippled by it, as well. Other family members have suffered strokes and I sure hope that doesn't happen to me. They've personally cared for relatives with dementia, but I know they didn't really want to. The idea of (infirm) old age in general isn't something I see as all that compatible with my lifestyle and way I am. I'd probably not want to stick around if I felt my mind and independence going, but that's just me.

The topic of failing health has been on my mind lately, not because mine has been failing (it's been on the up) but because others around me have been dropping like flies, or getting seriously ill once they hit 65 ish. Some of them have been health freaks too, while I know chain smokers and winos and ex-druggies who are doing well. It seems random who gets struck down and who doesn't. I suppose it's not worth worrying that much about in that case.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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KathyLauren

This is an important topic.  Thanks for opening the conversation, Devlyn.

I hope I don't end up in a nursing home.  I have kept myself in good health to this point, and I think that that is the best way to improve my odds.  Neither my parents nor my in-laws went into nursing homes.  They all stayed in their own homes until their last few days, ages: 84, 89, 92 and 93, and retained most of their marbles until the end.  Both my wife and I hope that our genes and our lifestyles will keep us out of homes.

I intend to have GRS soon, so by the time I am put into a home, if I am, going stealth might be an option.  Obviously, medical personnel might need to know (yes to prostate checks, no to pap smears), but non-medical staff or other residents would not.

Still, I find myself wanting less and less to be stealth.  My transition has been all about becoming myself, and part of this self that I need to be is that I am trans.  I don't think I want to hide it.

Our society, at least on this side of the border, is becoming more accepting of trans people.  Already I have found that no one is willing to be nasty to my face.  If the trend continues, it is unlikely that going into a home would be a problem.

Still, the possibility of dementia is alarming, especially the fact that the memories that remain are the oldest.  If the don't find a cure before it becomes relevant to me, that's going to suck.  On the other hand, if there's nothing I can do about it, then there's nothing I can do about it.  It doesn't bear worrying about.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Devlyn

This is no time for joking...so here we go!  >:-) :laugh:

At some point, some transgender person with dementia is going to find themselves saying:

"..and don't call me Shirley."

;D

Hugs, Devlyn
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Megan.

I think I read there is (or going to be) a dedicated LGBT nursing home in the UK. A centre like that would likely be at least better equipped to manage any specific issues that might arise for us.

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Megan.

Quote from: Megan. on March 17, 2018, 10:35:43 AM
I think I read there is (or going to be) a dedicated LGBT nursing home in the UK. A centre like that would likely be at least better equipped to manage any specific issues that might arise for us.

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Here's the article :

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/21/manchester-city-council-to-create-uks-first-lgbt-retirement-home

http://www.tonichousing.org.uk

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