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Kinda wanted to tell my story, Recovering from SRS and Recto-vaginal Fistula

Started by J. Raine, March 22, 2018, 02:42:27 AM

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J. Raine

Hi folks!  First post here.  As I was given so much information over time, through lurking, reading, etc - I wanted to give back.  Especially with a bit of a positive story recovering (so far) from one of the most scary complications out there (or so I, and I think a lot of folks probably believe).

First, be warned, this is very TMI'ey.  Though not graphic.

Second - I'll be honest - telling this probably helps me too. It's been quite a roller coaster, and I've relied on friends and chosen family, and my therapist for that matter - a lot through the process.

I should mention this is just a story.  I am not making any recommendations here, and in fact - the risks I took may seem quite foolish.  But here they are:

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I'm 1.5 months post-op. So, I'm well in the thick of things - but my thick of things really didn't go your standard route (but then, who's does, and who is really prepared - I ask myself rhetorically)

So, I had surgery on Valentines day with Dr. Heidi Wittenberg. Things were purported to have gone well - and I'm sure they did - but through a combination of whatever it was, a nick, fate, my taking to food too quickly, my body deciding it would be a blast - it was found that I had developed a Recto-vaginal fistula when the packing was removed.

I was devastated.  Through my study there was nothing, short of endless bleeding complications - that I feared more.
I remember crying at the office, being told not to dilate, being scheduled for pretty much immediate revision surgery to patch it - and more importantly - being texted and called directly by Dr Wittenberg and being told they would take care of me. 

I got through the 3 days between my packing being removed and the revision surgery getting sicker and sadder, douching and feeling just horrified and gross.  Immediately being put on an all-liquid diet.

The follow-up surgery was also purported to go well, a biological tissue patch put in place and everything all stitched well. I was also told it would be best to let everything close up - and go for a revision surgery down the line - which didn't alleviate my sadness at the time - because who knows what the future holds?

A couple of things went through my head during the days that followed -
What if I lose my insurance?  What if further revisions weren't covered?  How would this effect my relationships in the future?  I had also been told, if it was a weak spot instead of a fistula (even though she was 99% sure it was) she would simply show me how to dilate around it....   so.. I made a choice.

I wouldn't use dilators - I didn't have them anyway, but depth was irrecoverable - and what was the patch site but a weak spot?  What would more likely to be covered by insurance - a fistula or a revision surgery?  I have long, skinny fingers...  can't I just dilate around the weak spot? 
Preserve the 3.5-4 inches I could? - since surely, a couple inches were already gone (it had been 5 days since the packing was removed by then) and even if I was tight, width is recoverable.

So I did.  I dilated with my fingers - as far as I could reasonably, as absolutely carefully as humanly possible - later, with a well, razor that was just shaped right, taped smooth and safe (the size of my finger), condom covered, curved  at just the right spot, marked 4 inches, and also being careful as humanly possible - no poking, no pressure on the surgical site.  (For me it was on a bottom-lower side of my vaginal wall, about 2 inches in... close enough not to touch or stretch too much).

As soon as I could I told my doctor my activities as well - and explained my reasoning, how careful I was being - how steadfast to an all liquid diet and resting I was being, etc.

She checked the site, on both sides - everything was holding, it was indeed avoidable - she bade me proceed with caution, fingers only.

And essentially, I got lucky I guess, mostly.  It kept holding - appointment after appointment.  To this day it is still holding, though I swear after a complication like that you see ghosts everywhere.  Dilating 3 times a day, mostly with my finger/s careful.  Religiously careful.

My recovery, generally has been slow.  Two surgeries back to back beats the hell out of you.  Being on an all liquid diet for 14 days, then a low residue diet for 14 days sucks.  I lost 25 pounds.

My vulva looks stellar, but is hella angry with discharge (not from the vagina mind you, from the clit area) that is unnerving, but apparently ok (I checked with my doc.. multiple times (I needed re-assuring).

And.. I kept the 4 inches.  I was given dilators, to recover depth, but will not be using them (my doctor's orders, and my agreement) for another 5 weeks - even then only the smallest size till 3 months, at least.

And.. I'm ok.  As I said, it's a bit slow going for me, but that's ok.  Dilating in this way feels.. wild and barbaric in some respects, but I know basically every topographical landmark of my vagina's interior, just where the pubic bone is, etc as a benefit XD.  Luckily I really haven't had any further complications of other sorts (yet, *crosses fingers*) either.

Anyway, in my doctor's words - thus far I've had the best possible outcome of a really tough complication. By the way, her bedside manner and willingness to really listen and give the best possible advice, along with technical skill is amazing.  I really would recommend Dr. Wittenberg.

Here's my sincere hope that things keep being ok. Lord knows I will keep being incredibly careful, with my diet, rest, and activities for as long as I'm still freaked out - which will likely be a while.

And that's that.  I really appreciate all the stories, advice, and good reading on this forum.  I just wanted to tell kinda a weird one.

Hello everyone.  Cheers :)
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Devlyn

J, welcome to Susan's Place! I understand the anxiety you felt, I had complications healing from my orchiectomy. I'm glad you're back on track, my recovery turned out well in the end. Thanks for sharing!

Hugs, Devlyn
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J. Raine

Why thank you :)  I'm glad to hear everything worked out for you - and sincerely appreciate the welcome ^.^
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epvanbeveren

Hi J. Raine

Welcome to Susan's place.

Wow girl I am so sorry to read your story, but I am glad it seem to go in the right direction. I will be thinking of you and hope soon all will be fine.

Also want to tell you I greatly appreciate you sharing your experience for others who are still pre-op to read. I am 6  months post-op and I choose the limited depth vaginoplasty for various reasons, including what you experienced. I did had internal anal surgery in 1993 and was very concerned about what you experienced.

Hugs dear, and hang in there.
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Megan.

Thank you for sharing your experience, I can't imagine how tough it's been,  but your determination,  focus and attitude seem to be carrying you through. Best of luck for a continued and smooth recovery. X

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J. Raine

Really, I wanted to thank you all.

First, a small correction from my story, I was given dilators to recover width**, not depth.** - Thought that might be a little confusing bit for whoever reads it.

I really appreciate the hugs, *hugs back* and compliment to my character.  I really appreciate that.. I'm a pretty plucky and "keep calm and carry on" person generally - but this did, in fact, well.. suck. 

Honestly I didn't know limited-depth was an option - and if it was, I might have taken it, for just this fear.. but then again it's such a rare complication - it's hard to know.

Anyway, I wanted to share this story as almost everything I've ever read about fistulas is pretty grim - and while it was hard, and frankly I'm probably not out of the woods, they are sparse now.

I wanted to share one that was like "oh it sucked like, super hard, but it came out ok so far.  Not like, stellar... but you know "if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need"... ya know?

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epvanbeveren

Quote from: J. Raine on March 23, 2018, 05:32:48 AM
Honestly I didn't know limited-depth was an option - and if it was, I might have taken it, for just this fear.. but then again it's such a rare complication - it's hard to know.

It is my understanding the change of a fistula is 1%, which sounds like a small change. However I imagined being in a room, with 100 friends that I know and thought, one of us is going to be the one... That was a bit scary to me.

Hugs, again yes. :)
I am a K. MacPhee girl, re-born on October 4 2017 in Raleigh/Durham NC. USA
I was AMAB on May 6 1963 in Dordrecht, the Netherlands.

OUT and proud - 2014
HRT - 2015
Legal - 2016
GRS - 2017

Full Time - 01/01/2015:
first day (01) of new life (01), '15 = opposite of 51 (my age at the time)

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echo7

What are the risk factors for a rectovaginal fistula?  And what can be done to reduce those risks to help prevent it from happening?
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Kendra

J. Raine, sorry you had the complication and you seem to have done great to recover from that point.  Kudos to you.

And welcome to Susan's Place.  Since these were yours first posts I'll add information to help with navigation, and site guidelines.

Things that you should read




When you get a chance, would be great if you can post an introduction in the Introductions Forum.

A fistula was also something I was concerned about with my GCS/SRS a couple months ago.  My understanding is - although relatively rare, it can happen to anyone with full-depth surgery.  I doubt there was anything you could have done differently, but to answer echo7's question I drank a cup of prune juice with each meal for the first few weeks in case that might reduce the chance of this occuring.  Constipation isn't pleasant under any circumstances but is much worse when recovering from this particular surgery.

Best wishes for continued recovery.

Kendra
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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AnonyMs

Quote from: echo7 on March 23, 2018, 12:41:25 PM
What are the risk factors for a rectovaginal fistula?  And what can be done to reduce those risks to help prevent it from happening?

I believe it's related to the skill of the surgeon. Kind of an unavoidable risk, but there can be a big difference in the rate between surgeons.
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J. Raine

For what it's worth, my doctor told me there was nothing I could have done differently.

But that being said, She could have nicked something.  Swelling could have created pressure and split something, constipation is always considered a factor, apparently any sort of weakened immunity can raise the risk.

If I learned anything it's a risk with many factors - and as said risk with full depth surgeries.  I believe her when she says I couldn't have done anything differently. - I'm not t really sure I could have
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Mumei

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Dena

I am not sure all risk can be removed, but before I found this site, I hadn't heard of that complication. Possibly one of the reasons is the surgeon everybody used when I transition was a former Korean war MASH surgeon. I am sure he had plenty of experience poking around in that area repairing wounds so he knew what to do and what not to do.

As for constipation, we had a standard hospital meal the night before surgery and an enema just before the surgery. It was about 5 days without a movement after surgery and then I received a really nasty laxative to get things moving again. The laxative just about tore my insides out but it got things moving again in a relatively short period of time.
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