Do you think you are/were "trapped in the wrong body"?

[Cassi]

Being that I wish my parents would have never met and I never had been born I suppose it would be fair to say I feel a bit trapped in the wrong body

[Northern Star Girl]

Hmmm, don't all of us, or at least most of us, that are transgender transitioning believe that we were trapped in the wrong body??   Why else, I wonder,  would we be personally compelled to go through the expensive, long and uncomfortable journey of HRT and transitioning?
Danielle

[Michelle_P]

It's MY body, but some bits need adjusting to match the body image in the brain.

[Northern Star Girl]

It's MY body, but some bits need adjusting to match the body image in the brain.

Michelle:   You are very correct... an  excellent thought that you have.   Perhaps the "Wrong Body" is the incorrect term....   along the lines of your reply, how about: "I am trapped with my physical body that does not match my mental image in my brain... it must be altered!!!!"
Danielle

[Cassi]

Michelle:   You are very correct... an  excellent thought that you have.   Perhaps the "Wrong Body" is the incorrect term....   along the lines of your reply, how about: "I am trapped with my physical body that does not match my mental image in my brain... it must be altered!!!!"
Danielle

Report to Deluce NM for neuro-alteration.

[Northern Star Girl]

Report to Deluce NM for neuro-alteration.

But, can I bring my mother with me?

[Daisy Jane]

I think the whole "trapped in the wrong body" thing was likely a clumsy attempt for a trans person to explain to what being trans feels like to people who had no prior concept of gender identity. I think it's common that whenever a new idea is introduced to the general public, the language used hasn't been fine tuned.

[Allison S]

I was always proud of my curves. This threw me for a loop for so many years. But in the end, overall my body in my view can use a few, well a lot of, tweaks. Hrt is saving my confidence, possibly my life at this point. Differences between males and females are just more obvious and distinct the older we get, I think. Me and my body are ready to cross that line. Maybe a little too ready, hence my impatience!! 

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[Cassi]

But, can I bring my mother with me?

Sweetie, I'm already here waiting for you!  If you hadn't miss my response to you "outing" me as an alien, you would  have known that

BTW, only sad because you missed it.  I think I've probably missed a lot of responses.  Especially when a thread gets hit by a lot of posts.  Not intentional and never mean to shun anyone, just an oversight, sadly.

[Cassi]

I was always proud of my curves. This threw me for a loop for so many years. But in the end, overall my body in my view can use a few, well a lot of, tweaks. Hrt is saving my confidence, possibly my life at this point. Differences between males and females are just more obvious and distinct the older we get, I think. Me and my body are ready to cross that line. Maybe a little too ready, hence my impatience!! 

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I can relate to this Alli, I've always had a big butt.  Now it's even biggggggggger

[falk]

I feel like "trapped in the wrong body" is something purely for/because? of cis people. It just feels like an oversimplification to me.

That said, I feel trapped in a dead body, mine specifically. But I don't know how much of that is because of gender or my own mental illness [alterhumanity/otherkin]. It's like that "girl" is dead yet I'm wearing her like a unfashionable coat so everyone treats me like her anyways.

[Northern Star Girl]

I was always proud of my curves. This threw me for a loop for so many years. But in the end, overall my body in my view can use a few, well a lot of, tweaks. Hrt is saving my confidence, possibly my life at this point. Differences between males and females are just more obvious and distinct the older we get, I think. Me and my body are ready to cross that line. Maybe a little too ready, hence my impatience!! 

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@ Allison:   Great attitude about always being proud of your curves... having those beautiful curves will be a blessing as HRT improves what is already there with your curves, your soft female looking face and your female mental attitude.

I think that I posted a photo in some thread somewhere of my college young-man appearance.   I was a small runt of a guy 5'4", no muscle, no bulk and not a picture at all of a young man.   My face was very soft looking and definitely not masculine at all, with a girlish voice to match, my voice never did drop much with my puberty.   All of that definitely worked for my benefit.  If I would have stayed as a male, I would be most miserable today as I was in high school and college... being around masculine class-mates, especially the jocks, was a constant torture of bullying and rude insults.  I even got less than nice comments from many of the girls back then.

So, Allison, I am glad that you are proud of your curves and I will be happily following your HRT progress as you keep us updated.

Hugs,
Danielle

[V M]

I think the whole "trapped in the wrong body" thing was likely a clumsy attempt for a trans person to explain to what being trans feels like to people who had no prior concept of gender identity. I think it's common that whenever a new idea is introduced to the general public, the language used hasn't been fine tuned.

I've kinda thought that as well

Now that I've been on HRT awhile I actually think I've got a pretty kickin' body, it's just the annoying dangler and being expected to "Be a man" all my life that bugs me out

[Northern Star Girl]

Sweetie, I'm already here waiting for you!  If you hadn't miss my response to you "outing" me as an alien, you would  have known that

BTW, only sad because you missed it.  I think I've probably missed a lot of responses.  Especially when a thread gets hit by a lot of posts.  Not intentional and never mean to shun anyone, just an oversight, sadly.

@ Cassie, my alien mother....
I don't think that I did miss your response about me outing your as an alien...  hmmm?   We had a fun time with that exchanging replies.
Danielle

[Sephirah]

Interesting question. And very interesting replies. Here are my thoughts on it, for what they're worth.

I always felt uneasy about that phrase. It felt almost as if I was expected to feel trapped in someone else's body, other than my own.

This is important. And something where it can very easily be said that "wrong" equals "not yours". But I don't think that's always the case. I think it's possible to see your body as both wrong, and your own. And to feel trapped within it.

Speaking personally, I feel more... hmm... trapped inside my own head. I do a lot of work with consciousness. Getting in touch with my subconscious, through relaxation techniques, meditation, trance work, autohypnosis... those kinds of things. The act of shutting the body off and letting the mind be... free, as it were. When free of the physical constraints and allowed to be who I feel myself to be, in every aspect, it's an entirely different, and wholely liberating experience. One I really can't put into words.

Coming back to physical reality can be a very jarring, very uncomfortable experience. For me personally. I suspect different people at different stages of transition will have varying feelings about this... but speaking only for myself... yes, sometimes I do feel trapped. Imprisoned, sometimes. In a world that sees one thing when you feel entirely something else. Like wearing a costume you can't remove. Where you mentally scratch yourself over and over looking for the zipper, to step outside that. And feel worse when you can't find it.

The body is mine, but it isn't right. It isn't a reflection of who I am. And every single time I'm reminded of that, I feel trapped. I feel like screaming "If only you could see the real me you would understand."

So in that sense, I do think it describes how I feel pretty well.

[Allison S]

I can relate to this Alli, I've always had a big butt.  Now it's even biggggggggger

So you have that donkey booty! Lol it's actually something many women have surgery for

@ Allison:   Great attitude about always being proud of your curves... having those beautiful curves will be a blessing as HRT improves what is already there with your curves, your soft female looking face and your female mental attitude.

I think that I posted a photo in some thread somewhere of my college young-man appearance.   I was a small runt of a guy 5'4", no muscle, no bulk and not a picture at all of a young man.   My face was very soft looking and definitely not masculine at all, with a girlish voice to match, my voice never did drop much with my puberty.   All of that definitely worked for my benefit.  If I would have stayed as a male, I would be most miserable today as I was in high school and college... being around masculine class-mates, especially the jocks, was a constant torture of bullying and rude insults.  I even got less than nice comments from many of the girls back then.

So, Allison, I am glad that you are proud of your curves and I will be happily following your HRT progress as you keep us updated.

Hugs,
Danielle

Oh wow that's so nice of you!!! I didn't experience too much bullying in school but I did experience a LOT of rejection. It was miserable for me too. And yet here you are now.. a true inspiritation and so humble too [emoji4]

I wanna go blonde when my hair gets longer but I want it to reach my behind first! Lol I always liked barbie dolls [emoji12] ok my arrogance is a bit high there but I do have a vivid imagination!!

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[V M]

Interesting question. And very interesting replies. Here are my thoughts on it, for what they're worth.

This is important. And something where it can very easily be said that "wrong" equals "not yours". But I don't think that's always the case. I think it's possible to see your body as both wrong, and your own. And to feel trapped within it.

Speaking personally, I feel more... hmm... trapped inside my own head. I do a lot of work with consciousness. Getting in touch with my subconscious, through relaxation techniques, meditation, trance work, autohypnosis... those kinds of things. The act of shutting the body off and letting the mind be... free, as it were. When free of the physical constraints and allowed to be who I feel myself to be, in every aspect, it's an entirely different, and wholely liberating experience. One I really can't put into words.

Coming back to physical reality can be a very jarring, very uncomfortable experience. For me personally. I suspect different people at different stages of transition will have varying feelings about this... but speaking only for myself... yes, sometimes I do feel trapped. Imprisoned, sometimes. In a world that sees one thing when you feel entirely something else. Like wearing a costume you can't remove. Where you mentally scratch yourself over and over looking for the zipper, to step outside that. And feel worse when you can't find it.

The body is mine, but it isn't right. It isn't a reflection of who I am. And every single time I'm reminded of that, I feel trapped. I feel like screaming "If only you could see the real me you would understand."

So in that sense, I do think it describes how I feel pretty well.

Very wise words and relatable description Sephirah 

Hugs

[Cassi]

@ Cassie, my alien mother....
I don't think that I did miss your response about me outing your as an alien...  hmmm?   We had a fun time with that exchanging replies.
Danielle

Good, maybe earthlings here will think we were joking, cross your third eye!.

[Northern Star Girl]

Good, maybe earthlings here will think we were joking, cross your third eye!.

....and our 3rd breast!!! 

[Cassi]

....and our 3rd breast!!! 

Intially, I was a little upset about you letting our "3rd" breast out of the bag but maybe someone here will feel compassion for us and we'll be able to get or 3 3d Cup Bras for a song???

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Oh, wait a minute, your's haven't matured yet:

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