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Things that rock about being Trans., MTF or FTM.

Started by Sarah, December 24, 2007, 01:51:52 AM

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Berliegh

Quote from: Rebis on December 28, 2007, 08:08:22 AM
Along with reclaiming our destiny.  Someday others like us will be free to mix, live, and thrive amongst the general population.  And it'll be because we each made a difference in our own way.

...Excuse me! what planet are you living on Rebis? I am free to mix, live, and thrive amongst the general population everyday of my life........a transsexual is not an alien mutant being with two heads........I am a normal person and live and work as a normal female in an everyday world....
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Pica Pica

have you actually met rebis though? she might be a mutant with two heads, mightn't he?
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Berliegh on December 28, 2007, 08:35:23 AM
...Excuse me! what planet are you living on Rebis? I am free to mix, live, and thrive amongst the general population everyday of my life........a transsexual is not an alien mutant being with two heads........I am a normal person and live and work as a normal female in an everyday world....
Well, it's nice that you can do so, however, there are those of us who can not for whatever reason.

    I am talking about creating a culture where the young ones can talk to their parents openly and attend school in their correct dress.
   A world where people of differing gender expressions are safe to be exactly who they are and to receive the treatment they are in need of.
   A world where the authorities protect us with the same vigor with which they would defend their own children.
   A world where older people can come out without fear.
   A world where the people who do not "pass" have no worries because they are treated as their proper gender.

   A world that does not need an ENDA (US law).
   A world where a person can literally lead an army and not have to hide who they are.

    Is this your world, Berliegh?  Because, if it is, please send us a map.  There are a lot of us who would be happy to move there.


Peace,

Rebis
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Pica Pica

At least we live in a mostly indifferent world, that's something I suppose.
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 28, 2007, 12:22:56 PM
At least we live in a mostly indifferent world, that's something I suppose.
My stupid two heads keep banging into each other.  Maybe I should bag them.
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Pica Pica

no, don't do that, the Zaphod effect is a good one
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RebeccaFog

am I the only one who ever noticed that Slartybartfarst can be slurred into sluttybuttface?
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Berliegh

Quote from: Rebis on December 28, 2007, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on December 28, 2007, 08:35:23 AM
...Excuse me! what planet are you living on Rebis? I am free to mix, live, and thrive amongst the general population everyday of my life........a transsexual is not an alien mutant being with two heads........I am a normal person and live and work as a normal female in an everyday world....
Well, it's nice that you can do so, however, there are those of us who can not for whatever reason.

    I am talking about creating a culture where the young ones can talk to their parents openly and attend school in their correct dress.
   A world where people of differing gender expressions are safe to be exactly who they are and to receive the treatment they are in need of.
   A world where the authorities protect us with the same vigor with which they would defend their own children.
   A world where older people can come out without fear.
   A world where the people who do not "pass" have no worries because they are treated as their proper gender.

   A world that does not need an ENDA (US law).
   A world where a person can literally lead an army and not have to hide who they are.

    Is this your world, Berliegh?  Because, if it is, please send us a map.  There are a lot of us who would be happy to move there.


Peace,

Rebis

I think what your saying is in an ideal world a transexual that doesn't pass wouldn't get laughed at? unfortunitely this is the real world which can be hostile for some which I can only imagine can be very uncomfortable.

I don't think people will ever except anything other than what they percieve as normal and a lot of it has to do with the lack of treatment and surgery available to transsexuals. We haven't come very far since the early days of gender changes in the 1960's but why did the likes of April Ashey and others around that time look so female? what went wrong for later generations?....
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Berliegh on December 28, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
I think what your saying is in an ideal world a transexual that doesn't pass wouldn't get laughed at? unfortunitely this is the real world which can be hostile for some which I can only imagine can be very uncomfortable.

I don't think people will ever except anything other than what they percieve as normal and a lot of it has to do with the lack of treatment and surgery available to transsexuals. We haven't come very far since the early days of gender changes in the 1960's but why did the likes of April Ashey and others around that time look so female? what went wrong for later generations?....
Hi Berliegh,

     Just because the world is imperfect, it doesn't mean I have to accept it as being that way.

     For me, what rocks as a trans person is that I have an opportunity to make life easier for those who come after me.  I'm sure there are others who have that joy too.

     I am hoping that because of me and the effort I am making as an individual, that "normal" will not be so narrowly defined by others in the future.
     There are 2 sides to people being laughed at:
            1.  people can be taught that laughing is inappropriate.
            2.  People can be taught the strength to withstand being laughed at.


Rebis
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cindybc

QuoteWe were and are peace makers between sexes. We have the ability of both sides in metaphysical workings and were seen as natural healers and advisors because of our innate understanding. and the test  now is to show others that we can again be what we were and are. we are learning to reclaim our position we had of being seen as a blessing..b

Hi, BriannaKatherine,

I said those words nearly word for word some time earlier on this forum, and to tell the truth, I am not certain as to how many realy understand or even bother to try to do so. But I believe it is catching on.

Wing Walker and I had an interview yesterday evening.  We spoke to one of the counselors for trans folks here about doing some volunteer work. It appears that the organization is going to set us up with our own meeting room and maybe a small office space to run our own support group in Surrey where we live.

The awsome part of it all was in meeting two others of like mind when we were there. There are others like us out there, maybe they just don't know it. Maybe it's just that this group here is too preocupied about surviving right now for them to want get into any of the spiritual aspects of it. Actuall I believe it's the spirituality part of this that can be the stregth they seek.

Cindy     

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IsabelleStPierre

I think it would have to be finally being accepted as myself...

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
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Kate

What seriously rocked about *transitioning*, if not so much about being trans, was having the chance to see how incredibly nice and kind people (aka "The Public") really are. Yea, yea I know, maybe only in my little Bubble World, but STILL... it really humbled me.

~Kate~
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IsabelleStPierre

Quote from: Kate on December 28, 2007, 06:19:13 PM
What seriously rocked about *transitioning*, if not so much about being trans, was having the chance to see how incredibly nice and kind people (aka "The Public") really are. Yea, yea I know, maybe only in my little Bubble World, but STILL... it really humbled me.

~Kate~

I agree! I was amazed at just how many people could really care less! I have found people to be more open and kind then I would have thought possible...

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
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Ell

one night recently i was out past 2:00 a.m. and went to get something to eat after dancing at the club.

there were three young men hanging outside the restaurant in a semi-dark parking lot. as i approached in my hoody, two of the men stepped up to me and one of them said "Yo." when i turned toward them, my hoody was open, and they clearly saw my cute girly blouse, over my bra, and they both immediately stepped back and looked embarrassed. i just continued on my way and the incident was over.

did being Trans save me from being jumped? anyway, that was something that really rocked.

-ell
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cindybc

Hi Pica Pica

With two heads, that's all the better to be truly androgynous as long as both heads think alike.
I don't like fighting with myself I always win, not fair.

Cindy
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tekla

"I agree! I was amazed at just how many people could really care less! I have found people to be more open and kind then I would have thought possible.."

Its an interesting acid bath for sure.  I lost some I didn't think I would, kept some I didn't think would stick.  But I still like the idea that given the people who really hate it, stay so far away from me, that it frees up lots to time.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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cindybc

Hi I quite agree with you Kate and Isabelle. I have been full time for 7 years and never as much even had an argument with anyone in the town I lived . That was my bubble once but it was a bubble of nice people. So far it appears to have not changed much here in Vancouver. I love being who I am.

Cindy
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IsabelleStPierre

Quote from: tekla on December 28, 2007, 07:55:59 PM
"I agree! I was amazed at just how many people could really care less! I have found people to be more open and kind then I would have thought possible.."

Its an interesting acid bath for sure.  I lost some I didn't think I would, kept some I didn't think would stick.  But I still like the idea that given the people who really hate it, stay so far away from me, that it frees up lots to time.

What I hate are those that say their cool with it, but then their actions say otherwise...case in point, I came out to one of my friends from work not too long ago...things seemed to be OK between us, we kept in contact a couple of times a week, then just before Christmas I asked him for his address so I could send him a Christmas card...he has since dropped from the face of the planet...oh well...I liked him a lot too...but can't afford to keep people around me that don't accept me for me.

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
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cindybc

Hi, Rebis, Hon,

Wing Walker and I went for an interview to do volunteer work with trans people in a support group that we will be opening closer to our home.  There are no facilities for transpeople in our area. 

The interview was wonderful and the guy who will get us started gave us 90 minutes of his time.  He is F to M.  We got his support in our efforts.  He will set us up with our own meeting room and a small office someplace in the area where we live. Most everything for trans people here in the Vancouver area is run by trans people, for transpeople, with very cooperative doctors and psychiatrists.

Cindy
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