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Why does HRT make us feel so much better?

Started by BlueJaye, May 10, 2018, 12:29:58 AM

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BlueJaye

I'm wondering if anyone has any medical or scientific information for what happens in the body and brain of a transgender person when they are on HRT? Specifically, why do we experience things like more stable moods and clearer thoughts? Is it a matter of the brain getting the hormone mix that it was supposed to?
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KathyLauren

Hi, BlueJaye.  That is a field that has not been studied a lot.  So I doubt if even the experts can give you a definitive scientific explanation.  The best theory seems to be that the female brain (such as trans women have) is optimized to work with estrogen, while the male brain is optimized for testosterone.  So running a female brain on testosterone, pre-HRT, is like running an engine on the wrong fuel.  Switching it over to estrogen is like switching the engine to the right fuel: it just runs better.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Allison S

Quote from: KathyLauren on May 10, 2018, 05:11:16 PM
Hi, BlueJaye.  That is a field that has not been studied a lot.  So I doubt if even the experts can give you a definitive scientific explanation.  The best theory seems to be that the female brain (such as trans women have) is optimized to work with estrogen, while the male brain is optimized for testosterone.  So running a female brain on testosterone, pre-HRT, is like running an engine on the wrong fuel.  Switching it over to estrogen is like switching the engine to the right fuel: it just runs better.
Definitely agree. It just felt so wrong before. Now I feel *almost* normal.

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Nicole70

Quote from: KathyLauren on May 10, 2018, 05:11:16 PM
Hi, BlueJaye.  That is a field that has not been studied a lot.  So I doubt if even the experts can give you a definitive scientific explanation.  The best theory seems to be that the female brain (such as trans women have) is optimized to work with estrogen, while the male brain is optimized for testosterone.  So running a female brain on testosterone, pre-HRT, is like running an engine on the wrong fuel.  Switching it over to estrogen is like switching the engine to the right fuel: it just runs better.
I definitely agree with the right fuel theory, I have always been pretty switched on but on HRT I seem to be at another level, calm, multitasking like never before, and I just feel really good, like there was a fog and now it's gone
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pamelatransuk

I agree completely with Kathy, Alison and Nicole.

It is precisely that - we are simply on the right fuel. The brain appreciates that and clears the mind and uplifts us mentally.

Hugs

Pamela


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BlueJaye

Quote from: Nicole70 on May 10, 2018, 10:12:36 PM
I definitely agree with the right fuel theory, I have always been pretty switched on but on HRT I seem to be at another level, calm, multitasking like never before, and I just feel really good, like there was a fog and now it's gone

You put it quite well. That is precisely how it is for me. But I'm a curious kind of person and wish I knew what is being corrected in me when on HRT that makes me feel so "right".
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Chelsea

Same with me ladies. Its like I am a totally different person or HRT. Also its made me happy all the time and I cant imagine going without it now. Wish I had known that years ago.  :)

Hugs,
        Chelsea
First Therapy Appointment 2-26-18
Came Out To Sister 2-27-18
First Endocrinologist Appointment 3-7-18
Started HRT! 3-7-18
First Voice Therapy Appointment 4-23-18
Came out to my Brother!!!! 5-3-18
Came out to MOM!!!! 5-17-18


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HughE

It's because the thing that makes you trans is that your brain developed as the opposite sex to your physical one. If you're MTF, you have a female brain, if you're FTM, you have a male one. It's also possible to end up in a situation where some of your brain development has occurred as male and some female (which is what appears to have happened to me).

Contrary to popular belief, the thing that causes you to develop as male or female isn't X and Y chromosomes. Instead, it depends on hormone levels during the time your prenatal development is taking place. If there are high levels of androgenic hormones present (primarily testosterone and DHT), you'll develop as male. Otherwise you develop as female. All being XX or XY does is determine whether you develop ovaries or testicles, everything from that point onwards is driven by hormones.

This is easily demonstrated by conditions such as Swyer's Syndrome and Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS), which cause genetically male (XY) people to develop as female. With Swyer's, this is because the testicles fail to develop, so no testicular hormones are produced. With CAIS, the testicles do actually develop and produce their hormones as they should, however the condition involves a mutation to the gene for the androgen receptor, which renders that person completely unresponsive to testosterone and other androgenic hormones, so all their development takes place as if those hormones weren't there. In both cases you end up with a person who is genetically male, but female in both appearance and behaviour. Despite their genetics, people with these conditions appear to be completely ordinary women, to the point where the condition often isn't even spotted until, as teenagers, they fail to start menstruating.

Because the sex you develop as depends on hormone levels during the time your prenatal development is taking place, and because hormones aren't binary, but can exist on a spectrum ranging all the way from low to high, it means that sex itself isn't binary, but exists on a spectrum. Admittedly, the majority of the population are fairly close to one end of that spectrum or the other, but there are a minority of people, who experienced atypical hormone levels during their prenatal development, and who've ended up gender blended as a result.

One of the things that can happen in that situation is that your body develops in line with your genetic sex, but your brain develops along the lines of the opposite sex. This is because genital development takes place during the first trimester, whereas the permanent connections between cells and the permanent structure of the brain don't start being built until partway through the second trimester (from about week 16 onwards). If you have hormone levels typical of your genetic sex for the first 16 weeks of your prenatal development, but more typical of the opposite sex from 16 weeks onwards, you'll end up with a female brain in a male body or vice versa. It does appear to be genuine opposite-sexed brain development too, right down to the way the brain tissue responds to hormones (this is one of the things they found in the animal research, and the psychological relief many transgender people seem to experience on starting HRT bears that out).

Basically, if you have a female brain, it's expecting female typical hormone levels in the blood it's supplied with, whereas a male brain is expecting male-typical hormone levels. If you supply your brain with the wrong hormones, it makes you feel awful, and probably leads to depression and other psychological problems too.
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Kendra

One reason I applaud Hugh's explanation is this shows why the gender binary is a failed concept that has held society back, similar to the way mixed-race individuals received so much hostility in the past.

Computers are simple, binary machines.  We aren't. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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AJ

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BlueJaye

Quote from: HughE on May 11, 2018, 10:33:22 AM
It's because the thing that makes you trans is that your brain developed as the opposite sex to your physical one. If you're MTF, you have a female brain, if you're FTM, you have a male one. It's also possible to end up in a situation where some of your brain development has occurred as male and some female (which is what appears to have happened to me).

Contrary to popular belief, the thing that causes you to develop as male or female isn't X and Y chromosomes. Instead, it depends on hormone levels during the time your prenatal development is taking place. If there are high levels of androgenic hormones present (primarily testosterone and DHT), you'll develop as male. Otherwise you develop as female. All being XX or XY does is determine whether you develop ovaries or testicles, everything from that point onwards is driven by hormones.

This is easily demonstrated by conditions such as Swyer's Syndrome and Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS), which cause genetically male (XY) people to develop as female. With Swyer's, this is because the testicles fail to develop, so no testicular hormones are produced. With CAIS, the testicles do actually develop and produce their hormones as they should, however the condition involves a mutation to the gene for the androgen receptor, which renders that person completely unresponsive to testosterone and other androgenic hormones, so all their development takes place as if those hormones weren't there. In both cases you end up with a person who is genetically male, but female in both appearance and behaviour. Despite their genetics, people with these conditions appear to be completely ordinary women, to the point where the condition often isn't even spotted until, as teenagers, they fail to start menstruating.

Because the sex you develop as depends on hormone levels during the time your prenatal development is taking place, and because hormones aren't binary, but can exist on a spectrum ranging all the way from low to high, it means that sex itself isn't binary, but exists on a spectrum. Admittedly, the majority of the population are fairly close to one end of that spectrum or the other, but there are a minority of people, who experienced atypical hormone levels during their prenatal development, and who've ended up gender blended as a result.

One of the things that can happen in that situation is that your body develops in line with your genetic sex, but your brain develops along the lines of the opposite sex. This is because genital development takes place during the first trimester, whereas the permanent connections between cells and the permanent structure of the brain don't start being built until partway through the second trimester (from about week 16 onwards). If you have hormone levels typical of your genetic sex for the first 16 weeks of your prenatal development, but more typical of the opposite sex from 16 weeks onwards, you'll end up with a female brain in a male body or vice versa. It does appear to be genuine opposite-sexed brain development too, right down to the way the brain tissue responds to hormones (this is one of the things they found in the animal research, and the psychological relief many transgender people seem to experience on starting HRT bears that out).

Basically, if you have a female brain, it's expecting female typical hormone levels in the blood it's supplied with, whereas a male brain is expecting male-typical hormone levels. If you supply your brain with the wrong hormones, it makes you feel awful, and probably leads to depression and other psychological problems too.

Thank you for the wonderful response!

I was discussing with my wife the other night how I was in denial of being transgender for my whole life until I recently came out. Even after coming out I kind of didn't want to admit to myself that I really am transgender and it's not going to go away. Then I started HRT and for me that really confirmed and solidified everything for me. The reaction to HRT has been such a positive experience, I can no longer doubt that my brain and personality were indeed made to be female. I feel "right" for the first time in my life and can no longer tell myself that being transgender is all in my mind. Hormone treatment is a very real and tangible thing, and the improvement in my life has been substantial.

I can't say that all gender dysphoria is the same and caused by the same things, but I can definitely say that my experience of gender dysphoria is not just some mental disorder as some would assert. Hormones have definitely helped and hormones are not mental.
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