I 100% recommend Gc2b binders. Side note about their binders. The different colors stretch differently. The white basically has no give, the black would stretch way to much 2 hours after a wash, and lastly the grey is nice if you between sizes because it stretches a little bit. If you are between sizes I personally would go to the bigger size. I am a bigger guy and found the full length ones were less annoying that the half (tri-top?) binders because they would did in less and would stay in place longer. Finally, if your binder is not binding as well as it use to throw it into the dryer on med-high heat.