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Is torture ever OK?

Started by IsabelleStPierre, December 28, 2007, 06:41:26 PM

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KarenLyn

I'm in favor of torturing convicted rapists. And no one will change my mind as long as the act keeps replaying in my mind. It's been over 35 years since it happened buy I feel it like it was yesterday. If nothing else, he deserves to be tortured for teaching me to hate.

Karen Lyn
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lisagurl

It seems that self torture is the most popular.
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: lisagurl on December 30, 2007, 07:41:58 PM
It seems that self torture is the most popular.
you were right.  This thread is torture.
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tinkerbell

QuoteIs torture ever OK?

No, torture is NEVER okay!

tink :icon_chick:
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cindianna_jones

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IsabelleStPierre

Hum,

Why is it that the vast majority of the population can see that torture is a horrible thing...and yet...governments are still using it??

Scratching my head...

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
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tekla

Maybe its not really "our" government anymore.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Isabelle St-Pierre on January 06, 2008, 08:32:23 PM
Hum,

Why is it that the vast majority of the population can see that torture is a horrible thing...and yet...governments are still using it??

Scratching my head...

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
Torture is the response of weak minded and scared people.  They don't have the courage to face issues the hard way (with thought), so they resort to brutalizing other people.  Torture is a way for small minded people to feel they are in control.  It gives them a sense of empowerment.  When you see a government resorting to using torture, it generally means the nation has bad leaders.

For a while, I honestly thought that the human race would stop producing the type of people who seek refuge in barbarity, however, I've come to believe that if cruelty is ever overcome by humans, it will be in a future so far off that our sun will have burnt out by then.

the good people will be living on other planets and hopefully, their history books won't go back far enough to sicken them with the knowledge that humanity can produce monsters.


cheers,  :)


rebis
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cindybc

They should turn rapists into little girls.

Cindy
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NicholeW.

Quote from: cindybc on January 06, 2008, 10:53:25 PM
They should turn rapists into little girls.

Cindy

I hope not!!! Maybe just turn them into well-adjusted people instead?

As for 'fear & barbarity and torture.' If ya look at the history of our 'American Empire' since the 1910s it is replete with instances of barbarity: Central & South America, Iran (1940s) Phillipines (1920s & 30s) Cuba (1910s) and now, infamously, Iraq and Guantanamo.

After WWII politicians here basically decided that 'scaring hell outta folk' was a great way to exercise power and control. It's pretty much worked. How many people do you know who are convinced that if we weren't torturing Iraqis and Afghanis and other folk that "Al-Qaida" would be bombing their nearest shopping malls?

I remember in elementary school the constant discussions by teachers on 'what if the Russians invade, drop the bomb, etc.'

I thought those were pretty good questions until I became a teen and then realized that there was only one government that had ever dropped a nuclear bomb on any other country at all.

Any guesses which government?

Nichole
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cindybc

That other post I submitted was only an effort to be funny but there isn't anything funny about this topic, is there? I have never liked aggression and brutality. I had my fair share of that already in my life. And I  equally dislike torture even more. I don't think I'll be back to this topic. But yes my answer is NO!!!

Cindy
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Sarah

No.
It is not ever "ok".
Is it sometimes nessicary?
I don't know. I'm not in a situation it might be.
But I do know that it does not do unharm
It is a terrible thing to do to another. And that does not change simply because of the reasons for doing it.
Peace be with you friends
Sara


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Silver

No. Torture for information is not guaranteed to get good information.
It's morally wrong, therefore discouraged and those that torture get a bad reputation.

Causes unneccesary suffering and actually detrimental to the torturer. Bad idea.

SilverFang
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lisagurl

QuoteIt's morally wrong, therefore discouraged and those that torture get a bad reputation.

So is killing people by those who are tortured. How do you stop that? Two wrongs do not make a right. Everyone's morals are different. Until we standardize morals and get everyone to respect each other we are going to have pain and suffering. Utopia is not going to happen in my lifetime.
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Genevieve Swann

Torture is not right under any circumstances. If I were being tortured for information they would get what they want to hear. Not reliable info but if that's what they want OK.   I guess for those who are into bondage and S/M it little torture is arousing. Count me out.

finewine

Torture is always wrong in my opinion.   Torture for retribution, which was mentioned in the earlier example from Karen, is wrong...even if we understand the motivation.
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Kayla

Quote from: Isabelle St-Pierre on December 28, 2007, 06:41:26 PM
Greetings Everyone,

Well it seems that the government is still at it when it comes to torture...and still trying to cover it up too.

Which got me to thinking...is there ever a time when the use of torture is justified???

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre

Never, torture is ineffective at getting correct information, inhumane, and counter-productive to the image of America. Kalid Sheik Mohammed (sic?) was waterboarded 180+ times during the month before the invasion of Iraq, probably to create an excuse to invade Iraq. The fact that we torture has probably been the most beneficial thing for recruiting terrorists since the invasion of Iraq.

I'm sure everyone heard of Mancow Mueller. He was a conservative radio host who allowed himself to be waterboarded to prove it wasn't torture. He didn't last 6 seconds. I'm still waiting for Hannity to either eat his words or get waterboarded.
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lisagurl

But then it is torture to stand in a subway car also.
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Lisbeth

Quote from: lisagurl on December 30, 2007, 07:41:58 PM
It seems that self torture is the most popular.
Quote from: lisagurl on July 27, 2009, 12:10:13 PM
But then it is torture to stand in a subway car also.

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LordKAT

agree with KarenLyn. Rapists deserve torture. they tortured someone else.
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