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Started by Julia1996, August 02, 2018, 09:04:48 AM

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Julia1996

Hi everyone. I had SRS in May and have some questions. Tristan and I haven't had actual intercourse yet but I am recovered enough that we can try, but I have some questions. If any of what I am about to say maybe is too graphic I apologize. Does the first time hurt? I can't imagine it could hurt any worse than doing anal the first time but I am just wondering how much it may hurt. I have been dilating regularly but I don't have near enough depth to take all of Tristan. Actually I don't even know if I ever will. Tristan is 2 inches shy of being 9 inches. (Yes I actually measured it)  What I want to know is does a guy have to be able to get all of it in to enjoy sex and orgasm? Even if I can't take his whole dick I at least want it to be pleasurable for him and I want him to get off.

Another question. Sorry if this is nasty.  When he ejaculates what should I do afterwards. Not being a cis female I don't know if the ejaculate has any place to go. I'm assuming if I don't douche after sex that it would just stay up there which seems a little nasty actually. Not that I think his cum is nasty but I imagine if I didn't douche it would cause an odor.

And finally, should I expect any bleeding after the first time?

Sorry for the intimate questions but I don't know what to expect my first time.
Julia


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SRS done 5/21/2018
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Faith

Hey Julia, obviously I cannot answer the SRS questions. I can, however, answer the full penetration questions. Since I was most definitely male for a loooong time.

There is a distinct difference for a guy between 'holding back' and 'full' penetration. Full feels better, especially at the, um, ¿finale? That's not to say it's not enjoyable, just missing the mark a tad. Being avg to low avg in that department, I never had that particular problem. You know, this is very hard to explain. Plus I am drawing from memory, it's been quite some time for me ........
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Lisa_K

Hello young friend. I'll try to answer some of your questions because I know how anxious these things can be but of course, YMMV.

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 02, 2018, 09:04:48 AM
Does the first time hurt?

The first time might hurt and may be awkward and uncomfortable and you're likely to be anxious about things and being nervous never helps. The hundred and first time might hurt or neither time might hurt? It all just depends and factors may vary from one experience to the next. Personally speaking, I would have been nowhere near ready to try at 3 months but then again, I didn't have a willing and caring partner to experiment with either.

General suggestions would be to go slow, use lubrication and to maybe be on top. Being in that position allows you to have more control and go at your own pace until you've scoped things out and are comfortable. On the lube thing, you'll have to figure out if you need it (I do), how much and what kind. IMO, KY Jelly and the like maybe fine for dilating but are sub-optimal for sex. I prefer something less gummy and more liquidy and more natural. You'll only be able to figure out what works best for you through experimentation. It may be awkward and unsexy but if you do need lube, keep it handy like tucked under your pillow or something in case you need it during the course of things. Lack of natural lubrication is the only thing I don't like about my vagina. It's a little less embarrassing now that I am old because a lot of women my age have the same problem. If you aren't wet enough or dry out in the middle of, sex will hurt and probably not be too good for your body.

QuoteI have been dilating regularly but I don't have near enough depth to take all of Tristan. Actually I don't even know if I ever will. Tristan is 2 inches shy of being 9 inches.

Are you using the Soul Source dilators and if so which one? Speaking again personally, I'd be a bit apprehensive about intercourse unless I could accommodate the #4 big orange one, but that's just me. I dilate with the #4 and kind of like sex, sometimes it is uncomfortable and sometimes it is not. Whatever you're using, you may want to be well dilated before sex at least until you figure out how things work. Tristan is a big boy.

QuoteWhat I want to know is does a guy have to be able to get all of it in to enjoy sex and orgasm? Even if I can't take his whole dick I at least want it to be pleasurable for him and I want him to get off.

Women like us aren't the only ones that may lack depth. They make devices a man can wear on his penis that limits his depth but still gives him the sensation of full deep penetration. I have no personal experience with these products. You can always wrap your hand around the base of him to limit depth. With experience, you'll figure these things out.

Now here's where I get preachy. I completely understand the need to give your partner a pleasurable experience and the reward that goes along with that but this doesn't mean ignore or sacrifice your own enjoyment. You are more than just a hole for him to get off in. Learn how your body works and what feels good for you. Masturbate and figure out what gets you off then show him or play together until you both figure it out. Guys want to have the same satisfaction of pleasing their partner that we have. 85% of women do not have orgasm through intercourse alone without clitoral stimulation so train your fingers or his where to touch you or where not to touch you if direct clitoral stimulation is too intense. All I'm saying is that sex is what you make it and to not sell yourself short or think it's all about him. No pun intended but screw that.

QuoteWhen he ejaculates what should I do afterwards.

Go pee, which you should always do after sex, cuddle, go to sleep and don't worry about it.

QuoteAnd finally, should I expect any bleeding after the first time?

You might a little? I wouldn't be overly concerned about it if you do. Final piece of advice: relax, have fun and laugh.

You're always welcome to message me if you want to talk more.
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Doreen

CAIS gals have this as an issue too even after dilation or vaginoplasty.  You'll have some dribble out, a 'sex' towel handy nearby to keep things cleanly... and yes Pee afterwards, clean yourself out good.   The sperm ph can altar and create complications vaginally if you don't keep clean.   

As far as full penetration, skin can stretch with enough dilation but its a long complicated process.. the suggestions others provided sounded great.
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Colleen_definitely

I would bottom out in my ex wife (cis) as she was relatively shallow.  I just learned to go slower and everyone was happy, well until all hell broke loose and the divorce happened but you know what I mean.  ;D


If you're using the oh so fashionable soul source dilators, how many dots are you able to take?  If it's most of them I have a feeling that you should be OK so long as Tristan takes his time.
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DawnOday

Julia. You may want to go on youtube and look for Princess Joules. She has been documenting her transition for several years. She has described everything from makeup to after surgery sex and how to dilate. She even documented her getting beat up. Pretty interesting.
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Lisa_K

Here's a video you might find interesting? You might notice she waited a year to have sex but I know people don't. Carolina is a Brassard girl.




Following up on a few things with an additional comment mainly about douching. If you watch the video, she says she doesn't douche every time after sex. This has never been part of my routine and even when things were new, it was not part of my recovery or something required to do after dilating but I know some surgeons insist on it these days. I did of course sometimes if I didn't feel fresh or didn't smell right but not often. Not that it's relevant to your situation since it's been 41 years since I was where you're at but I think I've douched 3 or 4 times in the last maybe 10 years? I never felt compelled to do it after sex and the PH thing was never a problem or something I even worried about. Keep in mind I was married and had sex with the same man for 12 years so am not totally inexperienced in these things.

If you're still dilating daily and have to douche after, that's probably good enough to keep things cleaned out after sex? Most of the ejaculate and whatever lube you've used will leak out or disappear by morning anyway but do whatever you're comfortable with.

I know things are different when you're still healing and you've still got a lot of stuff going on down there at 3 months so it may be a year before things settle down but you'll figure out and learn what works for your body as far as keeping your vagina healthy and even that may change over time. I started doing something different a year and a half ago and my kitty is happier than she's ever been and I'm an old lady!





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GingerVicki

I will be blunt because this requires a blunt answer. I am large myself > 8 and not a pencil. Your partner needs to know what they are working with. Vaginas are different. If it don't fit it don't fit. Don't force it! Its just gonna hurt. Some of the tool needs to be "out in the cold" as the saying goes.

I know with cis women that if you keep it in there and rock back and forth at the end of the canal it will adjust and maybe take it all. Different position can help with deeper penetrations.

Experiment and see what works with you. Half the fun is learning right :)
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Julia1996

Thank you everyone. I just started on the soul source #4 dilator. I can't take the entire thing quite yet. I dilate regularly as I'm supposed to but I feel like I should have more depth by now. But the Dr told me not to try and rush the process so I'm not. I'm not going to be trying intercourse right away anyway. Last night I told Tristan we could try but he said not yet. The Dr told me to wait at least 6 months before having intercourse and Tristan doesn't want to try until then. I figured he would want to try it out as soon as possible but he said he didn't want to risk hurting me by trying early. He said we waited this long and a few more months wouldn't be that long. It's funny really. I figured he would be the one who was over anxious to have sex but actually I'm the one who's really anxious to do it. So for the next few months it looks like we are limited to oral sex. He doesn't want to do anal either. He is afraid it could hurt me or cause damage of some kind this soon after my surgery.

I know some women think a guy with a horse Dick is really hot but actually I wish Tristan's was smaller. It's also funny that guys all want to be really well endowed when actually having a big Dick can cause problems for the guy. Tristan said he's actually had girls who decided he was too big and decided they didn't want to have sex with him. And he said he's always had problems getting good oral sex because with him being that size you pretty much have no choice but to deep throat it and lots of girls can't do that without choking and gagging. It does take practice to overcome the gag reflex. Anyway, guys be careful what you wish for. Lol

I was only concerned about douching from an odor standpoint. I would die of embarrassment if Tristan ever got slapped in the face by an odor of old tuna or smell like he's in a sushi bar. But if odor isn't a concern I don't think I would douche afterwards every time.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 02, 2018, 09:04:48 AM
Tristan is 2 inches shy of being 9 inches.

Otherwise known as 7 inches? Lol

I think that the more you practise and have sex the easier it will be. It's still so early though, I wouldn't expect everything to be working comfortably until the 9-12 month mark.


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Rachel

I have a hose for a hand held shower spray. I use it every morning. There are attachments you can buy to penetrate and get the water in deep. Just buy a thin attachment.

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Quote from: Ellement_of_Freedom on August 03, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
Otherwise known as 7 inches? Lol

I think that the more you practise and have sex the easier it will be. It's still so early though, I wouldn't expect everything to be working comfortably until the 9-12 month mark.

Oh geez. I must have caught blonde from my brother. I mean he is like 2 of those little marks on the ruler from being 9 inches. I wish he was only 7 inches. I might have a hope of taking 7 inches one day.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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AnonyMs

There's got to be a good joke you can play on him somewhere in this. Tell him you found a surgeon though your trans contacts that can fix him up, get him down to a more reasonable 4" or so.
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Julia1996

Quote from: AnonyMs on August 03, 2018, 07:20:01 PM
There's got to be a good joke you can play on him somewhere in this. Tell him you found a surgeon though your trans contacts that can fix him up, get him down to a more reasonable 4" or so.

Lol, that's hilarious! I'm going to do that. I'm going to tell him I found a surgeon who does penis reductions. It will be interesting to see his reaction. I will be all serious when I tell him. Somehow I don't expect him to be willing to do it. Lol. 😂
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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AnonyMs

I guess he's heard the term GRS, so PRS sounds quite similar.
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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 03, 2018, 07:06:06 PM
Oh geez. I must have caught blonde from my brother. I mean he is like 2 of those little marks on the ruler from being 9 inches. I wish he was only 7 inches. I might have a hope of taking 7 inches one day.
Oh my gosh. I once dated a guy that size but never experienced it again since that. Before I met him I actually thought that kind of size was a myth.

I think you should focus on dilating as much as possible but no sex until you're more confident there won't be too much blood. Blood during sex can be a real turn off and could make you guys feel unconfident for the next time. My ex once made me bleed and he went soft immediately. It's so sweet that he loves you enough not to be pestering you to have sex too soon.


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Gertrude

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 03, 2018, 07:47:19 AM
Thank you everyone. I just started on the soul source #4 dilator. I can't take the entire thing quite yet. I dilate regularly as I'm supposed to but I feel like I should have more depth by now. But the Dr told me not to try and rush the process so I'm not. I'm not going to be trying intercourse right away anyway. Last night I told Tristan we could try but he said not yet. The Dr told me to wait at least 6 months before having intercourse and Tristan doesn't want to try until then. I figured he would want to try it out as soon as possible but he said he didn't want to risk hurting me by trying early. He said we waited this long and a few more months wouldn't be that long. It's funny really. I figured he would be the one who was over anxious to have sex but actually I'm the one who's really anxious to do it. So for the next few months it looks like we are limited to oral sex. He doesn't want to do anal either. He is afraid it could hurt me or cause damage of some kind this soon after my surgery.

I know some women think a guy with a horse Dick is really hot but actually I wish Tristan's was smaller. It's also funny that guys all want to be really well endowed when actually having a big Dick can cause problems for the guy. Tristan said he's actually had girls who decided he was too big and decided they didn't want to have sex with him. And he said he's always had problems getting good oral sex because with him being that size you pretty much have no choice but to deep throat it and lots of girls can't do that without choking and gagging. It does take practice to overcome the gag reflex. Anyway, guys be careful what you wish for. Lol

I was only concerned about douching from an odor standpoint. I would die of embarrassment if Tristan ever got slapped in the face by an odor of old tuna or smell like he's in a sushi bar. But if odor isn't a concern I don't think I would douche afterwards every time.
Deep throat isn't necessary, it's mostly about the head of the penis and if oriented with the top of it tongue side, it's easier and better.


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GingerVicki

Don't get me wrong I know this is a serious issue because Trazodone gave me priapism. I went from 5 1/2 to 8ish give or take arousal. My partner and I had issues for about 6 months because of the change. And this was after two children.  The only good thing about it is that I have plenty to work for SRS. Tucking is an absolute joke at this point. but anyhow.

Your SO must be the luckiest person ever from a male perspective. Much of this thread is devoted solely to the fact that their member is so large. I am sure that many males would be in 7th heaven so to speak.
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Julia1996

Quote from: Gertrude on August 04, 2018, 07:54:34 AM
Deep throat isn't necessary, it's mostly about the head of the penis and if oriented with the top of it tongue side, it's easier and better.


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Deep throating is easier for me because it's hard to orient your tongue and all that when your partner has a handful of your hair and rams it down your throat. Lol.  And no Tristan isn't abusive or mean. He just likes kink and BDSM.
Julia


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SRS done 5/21/2018
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Julia1996

Quote from: gingerViktorKay on August 04, 2018, 09:09:13 AM
Don't get me wrong I know this is a serious issue because Trazodone gave me priapism. I went from 5 1/2 to 8ish give or take arousal. My partner and I had issues for about 6 months because of the change. And this was after two children.  The only good thing about it is that I have plenty to work for SRS. Tucking is an absolute joke at this point. but anyhow.

Your SO must be the luckiest person ever from a male perspective. Much of this thread is devoted solely to the fact that their member is so large. I am sure that many males would be in 7th heaven so to speak.

I'm sure other guys think he's lucky. Guys are so obsessed with Dick size. And they always exaggerate when talking about their Dick. When Tristan told me he was well endowed I thought " yeah right". But then when I saw it the first time I could see he wasn't exaggerating. I really think guys are more concerned with Dick size than women are , though I did know of one woman who was a size queen. It was a girl Tyler was dating actually.  She was at my house waiting for Tyler to get home and she was telling me about all the guys she had hooked up with and how big each ones Dick was and that she didn't date guys who were under 6 inches. Then she stated talking about Tyler being hung. OMG! Ewwwww! Ear bleach and a memory wipe please! I try not to judge people but that girl was just a nasty skank.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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