Quote from: Dietlind on April 10, 2019, 08:57:49 AM
@Kylo, how or what do you define as "No go" area's? I can remember that I was concerned (as a 6' tall male) to walk around in Frankfurt in the areas surrounding the main railroad station (that was in the late 60"s), and the same in Berlin Kreuzberg, or certain areas in Duisburg, Cologne, Hamburg and even Düsseldorf. We just did not call them "No Go "areas (the Press invented that expression in Germany). I have my doubts that anything has changed since then, and at that time, it were mostly native born Germans who made me feel very uncomfortable there.
I think if we can leave polemic out of our observations what is going on, we can see the realistic situation, and that has not changed very much since the 60's. And corrected for population size, the thread to females even went down!
Are your sources of information associated with the AfD, or fancy this grouping? If yes, I can understand this!
I cannot say anything about Sweden!
Do not associate it with the AfD or insinuate, please. There are people outside of of this ideological sphere who are not on the right or conservative and who can still see and acknowledge cultural and immigration-related issues, especially those affecting trans people.
I already mentioned that here in the UK we have islamic parents protesting against the teaching in the national curriculum of LGBT topics and have done so openly and publicly under the statement that this is against their religion. They have successfully had these lessons banned from schools their children attend. State schools, NOT private ones, mind you. Which means the non-muslim children there have had LGBT lessons axed from their teaching too to accommodate this group. This will likely begin to be asked for in every region with a sizeable muslim population and will more than likely be granted, judging by the trends among these communities. I would expect it to spread to other areas of Europe soon if it has not already. This is a direct example of what I am talking about and governments will allow it because islam outranks LGBT concerns in their modus operandi; they are also afraid of offending them. Christian parents would have (and routinely are) ignored when they complain about the same thing. But the governments bend over backwards to accommodate the sensitivities of islam in Europe - and it will be at the expense of the LGBT community at some point. In the UK it has already started.
If you want to know what I mean, let me ask you this. Watch this short video of a recent protest in Germany by Palestinians shouting "Adolf Hitler" in the street.
Policeman stood right there watching it, doing nothing. No group of white Germans would get away with doing that in public, as you likely quite well know. But immigrants, and specifically islamic immigrants seem able to do this with impunity. Why could that be, I wonder? This group was also yelling about killing Jews in public. Something else you'd get in deep trouble for in Germany. But not this particular demographic. This particular demographic appears to be protected from the law regular Germans are subject to. Now let me ask this. If this group goes on to start calling for harm to LGBT people, do you think the government is going to protect you? It certainly isn't protecting Jews from it. In fact Jewish people are leaving Germany in large numbers according to many sources. They don't feel safe there any more, apparently. As a group, the islamic demographic has been polled frequently in Europe to see its views toward homosexuality and LGBT issues and let's just say the results are not encouraging. In the UK alone polling conducted by ICM shows that half of muslims here think homosexuality should be criminalized.
I have seen the changes in my own country in the last 40 years; only someone intentionally covering their ears or completely unaware would proclaim there are no ethnic/religious tensions in the making here. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's on the wall for LGBT people in a continent increasingly populated (and whom the EU intends to invite more of) with people from regions of the world who are largely hostile to LGBT. Perhaps you have not experienced it yet in your own personal experience and local area, but I fully suspect that you soon will see just where the European governments really stand.
If you are not sure what a European islamic no-go zone is, you might need to go back and start from the beginning on this topic and start looking into it. It's an area with a higher than average distribution of islamic residents in which they may use the pressure of their presence/numbers, aggression/intimidation, religious arguments etc. to eject or discourage people they don't like from entering "their" ground, LGBT individuals being high on the list. It is not some area where you cannot go in. No, by all means you can walk in there with your own two feet, but it is not advisable. Particularly if you are visibly LGBT. I can find you some videos of that being done in my own country if you like, and the harassment of gay men in these areas, with the express reason given by the perpetrators that the men "look gay and need to leave". But I am sure you can find them yourself with a search if you wished to be enlightened on it.
