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Started by Madison2002, August 28, 2018, 05:26:20 PM

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Madison2002

Things had been going far too smoothly, I figured my luck would run out some time... I came out to my family and general practitioner, then found a gender therapist easy-peasy. Now today I visited my endocrinologist. It was the 2nd time I had met him, though the first time was for a checkup on an incidentaloma, and I only came out to him today.

He says that I need a note, though he was very unclear on a note from whom. I assumed a therapist, though he said "no no, those ones can't prescribe medicine. I can't quite remember what they're called...". Does he want a note from a psychiatrist? I've never heard of an endo wanting one from specifically a psychiatrist? I've always heard that a therapist with a master's degree was all that was required, though I have no idea who makes the rules on this stuff... He did say that he has 10 transgender patients, so he's not totally hopeless. I asked him if a note from my primary physician would work instead, and he said that it would "help". What does that even mean?

Should I try to get my therapist to write the note anyway? She has already said that she's more than willing to do so. Finding a psychiatrist, let alone one willing to write a note, would be so time consuming...
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Devlyn

Welcome to Susan's Place!

It's hard to tell who's being vague from your post. Generally a diagnosis is what they're looking for. If you just told him about transgender today, of course you weren't sent home with hormones. Call and clarify what he's looking for. The WPATH Standards of Care lay out the criteria and responsibilities of each medical provider.

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Standards_of_Care_for_the_Health_of_Transsexual,_Transgender,_and_Gender_Nonconforming_People

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Quote from: Madison2002 on August 28, 2018, 05:26:20 PM
Things had been going far too smoothly, I figured my luck would run out some time... I came out to my family and general practitioner, then found a gender therapist easy-peasy. Now today I visited my endocrinologist. It was the 2nd time I had met him, though the first time was for a checkup on an incidentaloma, and I only came out to him today.

He says that I need a note, though he was very unclear on a note from whom. I assumed a therapist, though he said "no no, those ones can't prescribe medicine. I can't quite remember what they're called...". Does he want a note from a psychiatrist? I've never heard of an endo wanting one from specifically a psychiatrist? I've always heard that a therapist with a master's degree was all that was required, though I have no idea who makes the rules on this stuff... He did say that he has 10 transgender patients, so he's not totally hopeless. I asked him if a note from my primary physician would work instead, and he said that it would "help". What does that even mean?

Should I try to get my therapist to write the note anyway? She has already said that she's more than willing to do so. Finding a psychiatrist, let alone one willing to write a note, would be so time consuming...
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Alice V

Hey, Madison!

I'd say depends on your location.
In my country endo requires conclusion of commission that contain psychiatrist, therapist and sexologist. I heard in some countries it's enough to have diagnosis from therapist.

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Kendra

One benefit of a local therapist is they maintain a list of local professionals - they usually know who is easy to work with and has good results.  I'd ask your therapist if your current endocrinologist is one they are familiar with.  It's possible you might want a different endocrinologist. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Madison2002

Thank you all for your responses. I live in the United States, and as for the WPATH link posted earlier, my therapist meets all those requirements, "A master's degree or its equivalent in a clinical behavioral science field". I was thinking about printing off that page and showing it to the endo, assuring him that my therapist meets all the criteria. Are endocrinologists obligated to follow WPATH? Is WPATH affiliated with NIH or any other big names?
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Kendra

Following WPATH helps assure a medical professional they're less likely to run into a situation where you change your mind because you weren't adequately evaluated or didn't have access to accurate information.  This is more of a concern for things that are medically irreversible.  Insurance coverage may require WPATH.   

Since you're in the US, another option is an Informed Consent clinic - Planned Parenthood.  Informed Consent assumes adults can make this sort of decision on their own.

If you have an approval letter written by your therapist and they have a Masters Degree or higher your endocrinologist should be fine with that.  If your current endo refuses to accept the letter I suggest find a different endo.  If they are a qualified medical professional they should be familiar with WPATH.
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kaitylynn

My endo never asked for the referral letter my therapist provided me, but she did verify my therapist and I worked together.  My surgeon for BA required a referral letter before he would conduct my surgery.

Those sort of referral letters are the only ones I am aware are needed to adhere to WPATH guidelines.
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