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Transsexual or Androgyne

Started by BriannaKatherine, January 02, 2008, 03:13:33 PM

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BriannaKatherine

this is something that i came to earlier today and i would like some feedback if possible on it.
I have been identifying myself with Transsexual, since i am beginning HRT and after going on to SRS but at same time i can identify to an extent with Androgyne, not that the title matters except when trying to communicate things to others but is something that has confused me for a bit.
thank you
Bri
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lady amarant

Hi Bri,

I often feel quite similar in that I feel my male side is equally important and as valuable to me as my female side. Just because it was given preference by those around me, and subsequently by me for the first 20-odd years of my life does not mean it has no value and should be discarded. Male and Female are two halves of a whole, polar opposites that make all things possible. The whole Yin-Yang thing, for lack of a better analogy.

My personality and psyche is definitely female, and there is no doubt in my mind that transition is the right thing for me. But being transsexual gives us a unique perspective on things, the opportunity to really BE that spritiual and social bridge that Native American people thought transsexuals to be. My male aspect is an important and valuable part of who I am.

Hmmm... hope I didn't COMPLETELY miss the point of your post... ;-)
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stephm


I have considered myself as being transexual since before I actually knew the term for it. most of my life; before HRT and living full time as the 'real' me I tended to dress androgenously but tending more towards the feminine look.

hope I too have not missed the point  :embarrassed:
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Emerald


Hi BriannaKatherine :icon_biggrin:

It is perfectly normal for anyone to feel "gender neutral" from time to time - Cisgender individual included - but that doesn't mean they are part-time Androgyne!

Most people are psychologically male-gendered or female-gendered, either a man or a woman, and identify as such the way Cisgender men and women do. A natal male with a consistent female gender identity, or a natal female with a consistent male gender identify, is crossgendered. - aka: Transsexual.

Bigender individuals are psychologically twice-gendered, maintaining both a distinct masculine side and a distinct feminine side. Gender Fluid individuals move back and forth between masculine and feminine gender feelings.

Androgynes are unaffected by the usual psychological division into male/female gender. An Androgyne is genderless, neither masculine nor feminine. Androgynes are open-minded friendly folks who are very accepting of other people's gender identification (even if they don't understand what it feels like to be one gender or the other).

I hope this helps!
-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:
Androgyne.
I am not Trans-masculine, I am not Trans-feminine.
I am not Bigender, Neutrois or Genderqueer.
I am neither Cisgender nor Transgender.
I am of the 'gender' which existed before the creation of the binary genders.
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Pica Pica

I suppose it really boils down to the question, what am I at the end of it all. If you have an octarine blank, yer androgyne.

Quote from: Emerald on January 02, 2008, 06:47:05 PM
even if they don't understand what it feels like to be one gender or the other

too right, It's something I never thought about, but now I do, the more I think about it, the less I understand. Like an unwanted erection it's a problem that gets harder with greater attention.
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BriannaKatherine

thank you all for your responses,  they have helped clarify things a great deal =)
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lady amarant

Yeah, I'll echo Bri's sentiments. I can identify distinctly male and female aspects to my personality, with the female simply being the dominant one (my anima and animus, I suppose) I had always thought it was a question of these two aspects being equal in an Androgyne psyche - never occurred to me that a psyche might not HAVE an anima/animus duality at all. Thanks to Emerald and Pica for clearing that up a bit and for teaching me something new!
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dykespike

heres an old pic of me with long hair. i like the angle. its not as red as it was, age and the sun bleaches red hair. :(  ive had it this length or longer like 3 times... i snipped it recently, i was going to goto deva dave, a trans friendly hair place in calgary for a dyke spike but looks like im going to have to grow it out :S gothique11: you in calgary too? email me at dykespike@dykespike.com or msn protectwomen@live.ca always looking to connect with the locals!
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