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I had Secondary Sigmoid Colon SRS with PAI

Started by SpiralCream, November 09, 2018, 11:23:54 AM

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Lucie

Quote from: SpiralCream on December 08, 2018, 01:44:23 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not comfortable trying probiotics.  I've never taken them before, so I don't know how my body would react to them.  I don't want to take a risk with an unknown supplement.  I made that mistake before when I took Arnica Montana in the past.  Although a ton of people continue to recommend it all over the internet to help with healing from medical procedures, my body treated it as poison and it gave me the worst stomach pains and vomiting - all while my body was trying to heal.  I'm never again trying anything new in terms of foods or supplements during surgical recovery unless my doctor orders it.

When I'm healthy, I do eat yogurt regularly, so I guess I get probiotics naturally from that food.  But I've stayed away from dairy products and will continue to do so as part of my low residue diet for now.

I agree, it's best to follow your doctor's advice.
I wish you to be quickly rid of that UTI and to continue your recovery as smoothly and satisfactorily as possible.
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Linde

Quote from: Lucie on December 06, 2018, 11:04:57 AM


Perhaps you could try to take probiotics, at least as long as your digestive track is adjusting. It could help enhancing your urinary track immunity.
You don't have a specific  urinary track immunity!  Your immun system is either working, or it is jeopardized for the entire body.  if one is on antibiotics, one should not take any probiotics!

Here is a little more information on probiotics!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/what-are-probiotics/art-20232589
02/22/2019 bi-lateral orchiectomy






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SpiralCream

All the symptoms of my UTI were gone within 24 hours after taking my first antibiotic.  The doctor kept me on it for 10 days just to be safe, especially since I had surgery recently.  She changed the antibiotic to a different type for the last 5 days, after the lab culture results showed that a different antibiotic would be even more effective (although the first one was effective too).

On a different note, I had a weird discharge from my vagina yesterday.  After I did my dilation, I sat down to pee, as usual.  And while I was peeing, this brown, semi-solid, icky thing came out of my vagina.  It was about 1.5 inches long.  Here is a picture of it (warning, it looks really gross!):  https://i.imgur.com/nOPmRBL.jpg

My first reaction was 'OMG this looks bad'.  I briefly wondered if it could be feces.  But I'm a pretty rational person so I didn't really panic.  If it was feces, it would indicate a fistula... but the thing is, all throughout my recovery I always passed gas normally, and my feces always came out of my rectum and not my vagina, even when I had loose stools.  I had never had any brown colored discharge from my vagina before, not even a tiny amount.  Also, this brown gunk did not smell like feces.  It didn't smell bad at all - it just smelled like damp paper or something like that.  And the texture was not like feces either.

I fished out the brown gunk from the toilet, put it on a paper towel and took a picture of it.  I sent an email to PAI to ask what Dr Burin thought of it.  I got a reply within 12 hours (so quick, given the timezone difference!).  Dr Burin said that it is normal and nothing to worry about.  He said it's a mixture of old blood mixed with mucus, lubricant, and probably betadine solution (which I had been using to gently douche the inside of me recently as a precaution due to my UTI).

I think my vaginal canal must be pretty deep to be holding all these 'surprises' inside, haha!  Since I am only dilating to 4-5 inches for now, I'm guessing that each time I dilate, I push all this gunk deeper inside my vagina.  And it just kind of accumulates and bunches up deep inside?  I had been douching recently, so maybe squirting the water inside helped dislodge this gunk and allowed it to come out.

Maybe once I start dilating to full depth (2 weeks left until I can do so), the action of normally dilating to full depth will help push this stuff out before it accumulates like this.  I have noticed that unlike last year after my first SRS, where I would end up with lubricant on my bed pads after dilating, my bed pads are spotless after each dilation session.  I think the lubricant gets pushed up inside my deep vagina and just sits there since I'm not dilating to full depth yet.
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reborn

Quote from: SpiralCream on December 14, 2018, 09:55:16 AM

Maybe once I start dilating to full depth (2 weeks left until I can do so), the action of normally dilating to full depth will help push this stuff out before it accumulates like this.  I have noticed that unlike last year after my first SRS, where I would end up with lubricant on my bed pads after dilating, my bed pads are spotless after each dilation session.  I think the lubricant gets pushed up inside my deep vagina and just sits there since I'm not dilating to full depth yet.

Don't forget that the colon has absorbing ability so the lube gets absorbed compared to skin graft which doesn't.
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M. Sharon

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@Spiralcream, Inspired your recent surgeries with PAI n your thorough post op surgical details helped me with priceless information and cautions to be taken as I also scheduled with PAI for what exactly you had with them i.e BA & secondary colon srs next month. I really do appreciate and just signed up in this place particularly to follow you and to say thank you for letting ppl know your weekly experience on important colon srs which seems lack of resources to learn on currently. I've been looking for kind of posts like yours to best determine my surgery. Please keep updates with your surgical outcomes so that I can learn from you. Of course ppl can learn from you.
Different person have different things I know but we both have some things in common. But my surgeon will be Dr. Sutin. Btw, May I ask a little q that, Had your GI system gotten back to normal now?  Any minor complication or discomfort come up with bowel movement , colon vagina and any other general health conditions etc, are there any new surprise you currently dealing with in 3 months post op? I sincerely curious as I gonna take the same path you took there very soon. Again Many thanks for information.
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SpiralCream

Quote from: reborn on December 21, 2018, 06:00:12 AM
Don't forget that the colon has absorbing ability so the lube gets absorbed compared to skin graft which doesn't.

Of course!  Why didn't I think of that?  lol.  That is an excellent point.  The primary function of the colon in the body is to absorb water to form stool.  So it makes sense that when it is grafted into the vaginal canal, it absorbs the water-soluble lubricant.  So that's where all the lube is going!  My vagina is naturally soaking it up, haha.  How convenient.  :)
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SpiralCream

Quote from: M. Sharon on December 21, 2018, 10:55:17 AM
@Spiralcream, Inspired your recent surgeries with PAI n your thorough post op surgical details helped me with priceless information and cautions to be taken as I also scheduled with PAI for what exactly you had with them i.e BA & secondary colon srs next month. I really do appreciate and just signed up in this place particularly to follow you and to say thank you for letting ppl know your weekly experience on important colon srs which seems lack of resources to learn on currently. I've been looking for kind of posts like yours to best determine my surgery. Please keep updates with your surgical outcomes so that I can learn from you. Of course ppl can learn from you.
Different person have different things I know but we both have some things in common. But my surgeon will be Dr. Sutin. Btw, May I ask a little q that, Had your GI system gotten back to normal now?  Any minor complication or discomfort come up with bowel movement , colon vagina and any other general health conditions etc, are there any new surprise you currently dealing with in 3 months post op? I sincerely curious as I gonna take the same path you took there very soon. Again Many thanks for information.

Glad I could help!  Hopefully you will go into this surgery a little more prepared than I was, now that you've read my story and know a little bit more about what to expect!

I am now 7 weeks post-op.  Nothing new to report on my vagina.  No problems.  The main inconvenience is my digestive system.  While I'm permitted to eat almost anything, I still need to be careful.  The food that seems to be giving me the most trouble right now is dairy.  It's ok if I eat it in small amounts, but if I overdo it, my body doesn't like it (I never had trouble with dairy before my surgery).  About a week ago I ate vanilla ice cream.  I was just going to eat a little but, but then I ended up eating half the container, haha (the full container was 1.5 quarts = 1.4 liters).  I ate it just before going to bed (so dumb, huh?).  The next morning I spent about 2 hours sitting on the toilet doing so much poo.  It was all normal poo, not constipated, not diarrhea, no blood, no pain.  But still a lot.  It was annoying.  I had eaten a little bit of ice cream a week before that, and I had no problems.  So I guess it was just too much ice cream at once.  (ice cream is my favorite food, hence my username SpiralCream)

Several days after that, I ate a LOT of pizza for dinner.  I also ate cheese quesadillas, lol.  First time for both foods since my surgery!  A few hours after dinner, I had to go poo pretty badly.  It was normal poo at first, then I had diarrhea accompanied by lower bowel pain as I continued to have bowel movements.  It was the first time I had diarrhea and painful bowel movements since I returned from Thailand.  The next day, I had some minor sharp pains in my lower left abdomen that would come and go.  It continued for several hours.  I think all of these things were from all that pizza and cheese quesadillas.  It's probably ok to eat stuff like that, but probably not so much at once.  I have been doing fine since then, eating cheesy junk food in moderation but mostly sticking to colon-friendly foods.

Colon-friendly foods are foods that you find on low-fiber diet plans and low-residue diet plans.  The one food that I am strictly avoiding for now is popcorn.  I have read on colon surgery recovery sites (such as those where people discuss recovery from colon removal due to colon cancer) that popcorn is especially bad because the kernels can irritate the colon.  I will wait until 3-4 months post-op before I eat popcorn.

On the bright side I can eat 2 large orders of McDonald's French fries and it has no bad effects on me, lol.  French fries are potatoes, and potatoes are easy on my colon.  I guess my body is fine with grease and fatty foods, as long as it's not dairy, haha.

Recovery from colon removal surgery (well, an auto-transplant in my case, but still a removal from my digestive tract), is a very individual process.  Each person heals differently at different rates, from what I have read on colon recovery forum websites.  I have no doubt I will make a full recovery, but it's just a matter of time.  My digestive tract still needs more time to fully adjust.

I have been spending a lot of time on the toilet from frequent bowel movements ever since my surgery.  I recommend an iPad to play with so you won't be bored while sitting on the toilet, lol.  Also more importantly, lots of soft toilet paper from all the wiping.  I like Charmin toilet paper - it's very gentle on my sensitive bum.
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SpiralCream

Regarding all the junk food I've been eating - I usually eat very healthy.  My normal BMI is about 20 (before surgery).  But I lost a lot of weight from this surgery and have been struggling to gain it back.  My low weight is, I think, contributing to overall low stamina and inability to regulate my body temperature - nowadays I get cold very easily and also too hot very easily.  So I have been trying to eat more to gain weight, and maybe add yummy junk food to encourage myself to eat more, hahaha.  When I returned from Thailand, my BMI was less than 18, underweight and not healthy.  Now my BMI is 19, so it's better, but I still want to get back to a BMI of 20 for my usual health.

As for my breast augmentation, I've been going shopping for bras and it's looking like I'm a very full C cup: 34c.  I barely fit into a 34c though.  So maybe I should wear a bigger size, but both a 34d and a 36c bra are slightly too big, so I don't know what I should really be wearing.  For now I'm just wearing bralettes because they're stretchy and comfortable.  I used to be a small A cup before surgery.

I'm not sure how I feel about my bust size.  On some days I really like them, but on other days I wonder if I should have chosen 300 cc instead of 375 cc.  Is 75 cc even that big of a difference?  I'd probably have been a small C instead of a full C?  I don't know.  I'll try to be patient and see how they continue to develop as they settle, drop, and fluff over the next several months.  Regardless, I'm happy that I'm not flat chested anymore!  My chest was actually the least dysphoric part of my body for me (face and genitals were way worse, hence why I prioritized FFS and SRS), but it still feels good to have a nice bosom.  :)
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Evolving Beauty

OMG you're a sign from the heavens as Im long overdue with this issue.

Same story with you in 2014 I failed in depth with Chettawut 3inch only

Some questions:

1. My biggest concern is sensation during sex, will you feel internal orgasm? I just wanna enjoy during sex.

2. I heard people take 4 months to recover and have irregular bowels which might get internal infections, Im scared of this

3. Are the scars of the surgery obvious? im scared being clocked

4. Will you be able to double-penetrate? anal-vagina. it was always my fantasy

5. and very important is how much cost the surgery?
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SpiralCream

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on December 22, 2018, 12:10:34 AM
OMG you're a sign from the heavens as Im long overdue with this issue.

Same story with you in 2014 I failed in depth with Chettawut 3inch only

Some questions:

1. My biggest concern is sensation during sex, will you feel internal orgasm? I just wanna enjoy during sex.

2. I heard people take 4 months to recover and have irregular bowels which might get internal infections, Im scared of this

3. Are the scars of the surgery obvious? im scared being clocked

4. Will you be able to double-penetrate? anal-vagina. it was always my fantasy

5. and very important is how much cost the surgery?

Sorry to hear you had depth issues too.  I think it is more common than people realize.  In my opinion sigmoid colon revision is the best solution for restoring or extending depth.  The colon tissue is strong, flexible, and resilient, unlike thin skin graft tissue or fragile peritoneal graft tissue.  I have had zero bleeding from my vagina during dilations, because the colon tissue is flexible and stretchy, just like a cis vagina.

To answer your questions:

1. I haven't had sex yet since my surgery.  I'm only 7 weeks post-op so it's too early.  But my sensation from my clitoris is still the same as before my sigmoid colon revision.  I was able to experience clitoral orgasm before this surgery, and I have already confirmed I can still experience it.  The way the dilator feels inside my vagina is mostly the same as before my sigmoid colon surgery, so I have no doubt that I will once again experience pleasure during vaginal penetration too.  I'm glad that Dr Burin was able to remove all the damaged, painful granulation tissue inside my vagina without affecting any of the surrounding tissue that relates to pleasurable sensation.

2. Intra-abdominal infection is a very real possibility, and Dr Burin warned me about it before the surgery.  The greatest risk is the first week post-op, during which you are in the hospital the whole time.  The nurses checked on me every few hours for my blood pressure, heart rate, and temperature, to check for fever and any signs of infection.  I was also on intravenous antibiotics.  Dr Burin visited me daily to check the drainage tubes and incisions for any possible infection.  I was not allowed to even drink water for the first 3 days after my surgery, and no food for longer than that.  It was all so that my bowels would have plenty of time to heal and reduce chance of internal infection from food and drink.

When I was released from the hospital after one week, he said the chance of infection was only about 1% by that point.  By the time I was ready to fly back home a few weeks later, he said chance of internal infection was 0% at that point.  I believe that the best way to avoid internal infection is to very seriously follow the all-liquid clear diet for the 3 days before surgery.  Take the Swiff laxative solution each day, 2 days before surgery as instructed.  Make sure your bowels are completely 100% clean before surgery so that no contaminants can leak from your colon into the surgical area during surgery.

Also, I took a few more precautions myself.  Each day before the surgery, I douched the inside of my vaginal canal with betadine and water to clear bacteria.  I also brought anti-bacterial soap before I flew to Thailand.  The night before my surgery, I washed my body and hair thoroughly with my anti-bacterial soap.  I wore fresh, clean new clothes to the hospital before my surgery.  Oh, I should also mention that once I was on the operating table, the doctors told me that they would scrub and clean my body before opening me up (but after I was put under with anesthesia).  So they take every precaution to minimize the risk of infection.

And as long as you follow a low fiber, low residue diet during your recovery, your colon will heal ok.  Your colon resection will heal just fine and it's very unlikely that the colon will burst open and cause infection.  Be gentle and eat small amounts of food, many times a day.  It's better than eating a few big meals, so that your colon is not under too much stress at one time.

There is a greater risk of external infections such as UTI, because of frequent bowel movements.  Be sure to wipe thoroughly after each bowel movement.  Don't be afraid to use lots of toilet paper and wet wipes.  And after dilation, always rinse the outside of your vagina and the urethral area with the betadine/water solution as instructed.  The nurse told me to use 200 ml water mixed with 20 ml betadine.  Probably need to keep doing this until bowel movements return to normal.

3. My abdominal scar looks exactly like a C-section scar in appearance, placement, and length.  There are no other scars in, or outside, my vagina from this surgery.  There are scars from drainage tubes on either side of my lower abdomen, but they are minor and I'm sure they will fade away normally.  They are already less prominent than the scars from the drainage tubes in my mons pubis area from my first SRS with Chettawut.

4. Probably yes?  There was no change to my anus or rectum, and the sigmoid colon length that was used was 8 inches (the entire sigmoid colon length is 15 inches, so half of my sigmoid colon should still be there).  If you were able to have double penetration before sigmoid colon revision, you can probably do it afterward too.  I have never done DP though, and have no intention to ever do so.  You'll have to report back after your own surgery and let us know how DP works for you, lol.

5.
Sigmoid colon SRS is about 50% to 70% more than regular standard SRS, based on quotes I got from various Thai surgeons.  Different surgeons have different cost, you can contact them for specific numbers.


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M. Sharon

#70
 :-* Hi Spiralcream, Again  you enlightened me up with another vital decision on BA as I primarily chose to go for 475 cc and now reconsidering to switch to smaller size. I have 5' 8" Height with moderate wide chest that I chose 475cc while consultation with Dr. Sutin at first place. Pretty the huge boobs, wouldn't they? that can give some inconvenience later on I guess. Of course I'm not going to load more trouble myself while I would have it enough from colon srs Lol.  To me choosing Bigger may make greater chance of sagging due to heavier weight. Hence thinking of a bit more of cc just above 400 will be best for a long run I think. Hey I also like icecream a lot as u do and yes we have to eat it in small potions for the first months to void massive poop. haha. On different thing, So you did not eat meals 3 days before surgery just eaten liquid soups pre operatively, is it? I feel a little nerves as time is drawing nearer to appointed day X. ;) ;) Are lofts of bread the high fiber foods to void to let colon a lot of rest  n healing by early post op days? Did I understand right? Kindly let me know what were your regimented meals within 2-4weeks so that I can look for shops nearby hotel around Sukhumvit area before surgery. Well thank you for providing all important facts to take account to go well with colon srs! Love, M.sharon.

Quote from: SpiralCream on December 21, 2018, 03:23:07 PM
Glad I could help!  Hopefully you will go into this surgery a little more prepared than I was, now that you've read my story and know a little bit more about what to expect!

I am now 7 weeks post-op.  Nothing new to report on my vagina.  No problems.  The main inconvenience is my digestive system.  While I'm permitted to eat almost anything, I still need to be careful.  The food that seems to be giving me the most trouble right now is dairy.  It's ok if I eat it in small amounts, but if I overdo it, my body doesn't like it (I never had trouble with dairy before my surgery).  About a week ago I ate vanilla ice cream.  I was just going to eat a little but, but then I ended up eating half the container, haha (the full container was 1.5 quarts = 1.4 liters).  I ate it just before going to bed (so dumb, huh?).  The next morning I spent about 2 hours sitting on the toilet doing so much poo.  It was all normal poo, not constipated, not diarrhea, no blood, no pain.  But still a lot.  It was annoying.  I had eaten a little bit of ice cream a week before that, and I had no problems.  So I guess it was just too much ice cream at once.  (ice cream is my favorite food, hence my username SpiralCream)

Several days after that, I ate a LOT of pizza for dinner.  I also ate cheese quesadillas, lol.  First time for both foods since my surgery!  A few hours after dinner, I had to go poo pretty badly.  It was normal poo at first, then I had diarrhea accompanied by lower bowel pain as I continued to have bowel movements.  It was the first time I had diarrhea and painful bowel movements since I returned from Thailand.  The next day, I had some minor sharp pains in my lower left abdomen that would come and go.  It continued for several hours.  I think all of these things were from all that pizza and cheese quesadillas.  It's probably ok to eat stuff like that, but probably not so much at once.  I have been doing fine since then, eating cheesy junk food in moderation but mostly sticking to colon-friendly foods.

Colon-friendly foods are foods that you find on low-fiber diet plans and low-residue diet plans.  The one food that I am strictly avoiding for now is popcorn.  I have read on colon surgery recovery sites (such as those where people discuss recovery from colon removal due to colon cancer) that popcorn is especially bad because the kernels can irritate the colon.  I will wait until 3-4 months post-op before I eat popcorn.

On the bright side I can eat 2 large orders of McDonald's French fries and it has no bad effects on me, lol.  French fries are potatoes, and potatoes are easy on my colon.  I guess my body is fine with grease and fatty foods, as long as it's not dairy, haha.

Recovery from colon removal surgery (well, an auto-transplant in my case, but still a removal from my digestive tract), is a very individual process.  Each person heals differently at different rates, from what I have read on colon recovery forum websites.  I have no doubt I will make a full recovery, but it's just a matter of time.  My digestive tract still needs more time to fully adjust.

I have been spending a lot of time on the toilet from frequent bowel movements ever since my surgery.  I recommend an iPad to play with so you won't be bored while sitting on the toilet, lol.  Also more importantly, lots of soft toilet paper from all the wiping.  I like Charmin toilet paper - it's very gentle on my sensitive bum.



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SpiralCream

Breast implant size is a very personal decision.  Some women want larger breasts, some women want smaller breasts, some women want something in the middle. As long as the implant width matches or is near your breast width size, you have some freedom in the size you choose.  Consider your lifestyle and image you want to convey with your look. Personally I do not like to wear flashy or sexy clothes, very rarely wear any dresses or skirts, have no intention to ever wear a bikini, and generally am quite modest in my fashion style. Now that I think about it, I can count on one hand, the number of times I wore a dress or skirt in the last year, lol. Maybe I should try to be more feminine, haha.  Hence having big boobs is not really my preference. So that is why I am wondering if I should have done 300 cc instead of 375 cc. I think a lot of women (both cis and trans) would actually be very happy with 375 cc or more.

Anyway, as I wrote earlier, I am now a [full] 34c bra size. Even with 375 cc.  I think most people would consider that to be pretty average actually.
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SpiralCream

3 days before sigmoid colon surgery, you can still eat some clear soup broths (no vegetables in the soup though!). For the remaining 2 days before surgery, you better be cautious and eat nothing, and drink only clear liquid. No orange juice, no mango juice.  Only clear juice like apple juice or grape juice.  That is what I did, and I recommend the same.  Better to be extra safe and not risk any food remaining in your colon before surgery.

After surgery, I ordered a lot of room service. Mostly congee mixed with cooked egg for protein. No vegetables at all, not even cooked vegetables. I also ate white bread (avoid high fiber whole wheat bread). For specific information on what you can eat after colon surgery, do a google search for "low fiber diet" and "low residue diet" and "what to eat after colon resection surgery". There is lots of information on the internet on what to safely eat after colon surgery.
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Jessica

Quote from: M. Sharon on December 22, 2018, 11:45:03 AM
:-* Hi Spiralcream, Again  you enlightened me up with another vital decision on BA as I primarily chose to go for 475 cc and now reconsidering to switch to smaller size. I have 5' 8" Height with moderate wide chest that I chose 475cc while consultation with Dr. Sutin at first place. Pretty the huge boobs, wouldn't they? that can give some inconvenience later on I guess. Of course I'm not going to load more trouble myself while I would have it enough from colon srs Lol.  To me choosing Bigger may make greater chance of sagging due to heavier weight. Hence thinking of a bit more of cc just above 400 will be best for a long run I think. Hey I also like icecream a lot as u do and yes we have to eat it in small potions for the first months to void massive poop. haha. On different thing, So you did not eat meals 3 days before surgery just eaten liquid soups pre operatively, is it? I feel a little nerves as time is drawing nearer to appointed day X. ;) ;) Are lofts of bread the high fiber foods to void to let colon a lot of rest  n healing by early post op days? Did I understand right? Kindly let me know what were your regimented meals within 2-4weeks so that I can look for shops nearby hotel around Sukhumvit area before surgery. Well thank you for providing all important facts to take account to go well with colon srs! Love, M.sharon.



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M. Sharon

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Quote from: SpiralCream on December 22, 2018, 02:20:39 PM
3 days before sigmoid colon surgery, you can still eat some clear soup broths (no vegetables in the soup though!). For the remaining 2 days before surgery, you better be cautious and eat nothing, and drink only clear liquid. No orange juice, no mango juice.  Only clear juice like apple juice or grape juice.  That is what I did, and I recommend the same.  Better to be extra safe and not risk any food remaining in your colon before surgery.

After surgery, I ordered a lot of room service. Mostly congee mixed with cooked egg for protein. No vegetables at all, not even cooked vegetables. I also ate white bread (avoid high fiber whole wheat bread). For specific information on what you can eat after colon surgery, do a google search for "low fiber diet" and "low residue diet" and "what to eat after colon resection surgery". There is lots of information on the internet on what to safely eat after colon surgery.

Thank you Spiralcream, now I know many dos & don'ts and potentials to face by next month. Meanwhile if you have any incident or new surprise would ever come up in later post op period, don't forget to share so that we can learn from you and share our thoughts in light of sisterhood as we're taking the same journey.  :-* :-* I will come back with my story after I underwent BA & Secondary colon srs with Dr.Sutin, PAI very soon. Hope mine will be as smooth as yours sister! With lots of loves, M.Sharon
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Evolving Beauty

Spiral thanks so much for the infos I'm really inspired but quite scared of the pain. Is it really that painful compared to the standard SRS, can you describe in words what pains and how it feels (if possible) to be psychologically prepared. OMG already the standard SRS was the worst of the worst experience that happened to me as pain, I can't imagine something worse than that.

2. Aesthetics. I always had that idea they would have to start over again but I see they take 2 hours only for Sigmoid cool then. my question is will the sigmoid damage the original aesthetics? Cos Chett did mine so perfect and I dont want it to be disturbed.

3. Will the scars be obvious as it's gonna be the 2nd time right
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SpiralCream

The pain from my sigmoid colon SRS has been a different kind of pain from my first SRS.  This time, there was never any pain in or around my vagina.  Instead the pain was in my lower abdomen, because of the incisions and cuts in my abdominal muscles that the surgeons had to make to access my abdominal cavity.  It took a while for my abdominal muscles to recover.  The first week was very painful if I tried to move at all (but I was lying in my hospital bed the whole time, so it was ok).  The second week I was back at my hotel.  It was painful to get in and out of my bed.  But once I was standing up and walking, I wasn't in much pain.  Sitting down was also painless.

I think overall the pain can be pretty intense the first 2 weeks, but after that the pain isn't much at all.  Compared that to my first SRS, where I had lower pain levels that lasted longer.  I also struggled to sit down when I had my first SRS.  I had to use a donut cushion for almost 6 months after my first SRS.  But this time, I only used a donut cushion for 2 weeks.  The only pain in my vagina is at the connection point, and only when I am dilating with a new, larger dilator.  Once the connection point gets used to stretching after using a larger dilator size for a few weeks, the pain goes away there too.

I am now 7 weeks post-op and have no pain in my vagina or abdomen at all.  Completely pain free.  Actually I think I was pain-free earlier, maybe at the 5 or 6 week point?  The last bit of pain from my abdominal muscles only happened when I was sneezing or coughing.

As for aesthetics, there was no change or damage to the appearance of my vagina or labia or anything.  Dr Burin was able to do the surgery without affecting any appearance.  You don't need to worry about that.

As for scars, there is no way to avoid the abdominal scar.  It is about 4.7 inches long.  But it looks like a C-section scar.  I will try to apply creams to reduce the appearance, but it may never go away completely.  I'm ok with that though.  Lots of women get C-section when delivering their babies, and there is no shame in having a scar that looks like that.

There are no scars in or around my vagina from this surgery.  I think the only possible concern may be if you are coming from minimal depth or zero depth SRS... you may not have enough depth to attach the colon tissue to your existing vagina canal without showing the appearance of sutures, scars, or even the colon tissue itself.  I feel like you need at least 2 inches of depth to make this work without changing existing aesthetics.  But as long as you had a regular SRS beforehand, then you have nothing to worry about.

The biggest hassle from this sigmoid colon surgery has been, and continues to be, the change to my digestive system.  Irregular and frequent bowel movements and careful monitoring of my diet is much more of a hassle than my vagina, which is feeling fine.
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Evolving Beauty

I don't care of the abdominable scar as long as men dont clock my vagina  :o

What do you mean by Irregular bowel movements? You go to toilet more often now? And will this me permanent or what? omg

I beg you please when you have your first sexual relationship, please let me know if you feel good or let me know the sensation.
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SpiralCream

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on December 23, 2018, 04:11:29 PM
What do you mean by Irregular bowel movements? You go to toilet more often now? And will this me permanent or what? omg

It is temporary.  You may want to do some more research about colon resection surgery and recovery process and typical timeline.  A sigmoid colon SRS is basically the same as a sigmoid colon resection surgery (which cis people might do, in order to remove a diseased or cancerous colon). Except in the case of SRS, only about half of the sigmoid colon is removed, so recovery is easier due to less colon removal and also because sigmoid colon is the least important part of the colon.  And of course, instead of disposing of a diseased colon, the healthy colon tissue is grafted to the vaginal canal.
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Evolving Beauty

1. And how many months to FULLY recover for regular bowels and 2. how many months recovery to have sex 3. and how many months for full overall recovery?

Last question, I heard sigmoid once after a few months of dilating it's not even use to dilate anymore, how true is this?
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