Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months

[Kate.claire]

Hi all,
New to posting, but I guess this finally drew me out.  I'm 43 and have been on EV injections only the last 3 months, and on a patch for 25 days before that.  I switched due to skin irritation and because I prefer just having to remember an injection every other Sunday.  No androgen blockers or others drugs for now,  I wanted to see how E only went before adding in Spiro... as I had low E for a male starting out (around 150).  Readings in US measurements exactly a week between injections:
3+ months:
E (418)
T (15)

My doctor and I are pretty happy with these results so far, so going to continue with E only to my 6 month mark.

Thanks for tracking this!

-Kate

[pamelatransuk]

Thank you Kate Claire for your 4 months BT results.

Herewith latest 3/4 month table.

                                HRT Blood Test Results after 3 or 4 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       922                  251               1.6              46

Sarah                         297                    81               1.1              32

Devlyn                       338                    92                4.8            140

Deborah                     261                    71                5.5            158

Kathy                         698                  190                0.2                6

Tonya                         224                    61                5.4            156

Katie                          364                     99               0.2                6

Kaitylynn                    220                     60               3.8             110

Allison                       1178                   321                1.6              47

Charlie Nicki                173                    47                5.3             154

Sadie                        2577                   702               0.4               12
   
KayXo                         974                   265               1.5               43

Casady                        821                  224                4.2             121

Kirsten                        915                   249               0.8               23

Sarahthenerd               202                     55             12.6             365

VickiMI                        206                     56               0.2                 6

Soph                           278                     76               5.9             170

Kendra                          92                     25              21               595

Marcie                          371                  101                -                  -

Kate Claire                   1535                 418               0.5               15


Hugs

Pamela

[pamelatransuk]

Thank you Melinda for your 9 months BT results.

Herewith latest 9/10 month table.

                                HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       442                  120               0.7             20

Kathy                         193                    53               3.3              95

Katie                          223                    61               0.2               5.8

Charlie Nicki                334                    91               0.4              11

Sadie                          826                   225              0.6              17

Casady                       688                   187              3.6              104

Kirsten                        736                   200              0.5              14

Kendra                        698                   190              0.6              18

Marcie                         516                   140              0.3                9

Melinda                       220                     60              0.4              12


Hugs

Pamela

[Joanna Jones CD]

I wish we could talk about dosage here. I honestly believe that the rule of not doing so, so that others won't be able to self medicate is being blind to reality. There is plenty of other sources on the web that do talk about dose that this is not a hindrance to those who choose to self medicate.

Same here too.  I am working with my doctor who has never treated anyone on a MTF HRT program.  Since I am living in a small community, there are no other choices unless I wanted to drive 60 miles each way.  I feel it it my job to try and inform my doctor of all of the dosage requirements based on my tests.  This is a great forum, but lacks critical information.  A well informed patient is a key component of ones proper care with their own doctor.  This forum would be so much better if we could share all of our dosages.  If however, this is not done because of liability issues with the owner of this website, then it is understandable.

[GordonG]

Same here too.  I am working with my doctor who has never treated anyone on a MTF HRT program.  Since I am living in a small community, there are no other choices unless I wanted to drive 60 miles each way.  I feel it it my job to try and inform my doctor of all of the dosage requirements based on my tests.  This is a great forum, but lacks critical information.  A well informed patient is a key component of ones proper care with their own doctor.  This forum would be so much better if we could share all of our dosages.  If however, this is not done because of liability issues with the owner of this website, then it is understandable.

I'm a member of another web forum that does talk about doses.  In fact that's all they talk about is hormones, dosage and blood test results. There is a lot of info there.

[Dena]

Same here too.  I am working with my doctor who has never treated anyone on a MTF HRT program.  Since I am living in a small community, there are no other choices unless I wanted to drive 60 miles each way.  I feel it it my job to try and inform my doctor of all of the dosage requirements based on my tests.  This is a great forum, but lacks critical information.  A well informed patient is a key component of ones proper care with their own doctor.  This forum would be so much better if we could share all of our dosages.  If however, this is not done because of liability issues with the owner of this website, then it is understandable.

Dosage information might be informative however blood levels are far more informative and may be posted. As a moderator, I remove all sorts of dosage from the posts and some, under doctor supervision are well above the recommended levels. Others like mine are halve dosage with levels in the menopause levels but they still produce results. Finding the correct dosage is a balancing act between you and your endo and what works for you may not work for another.

[JanePlain]

I think the policy is to try to limit the number of people who self medicate (I was guilty of this) and on saying that I would add that its very liberating to had a doctor on board and see that your not screwing yourself up following amateur advice.

I think your doctor will be easily capable of adjusting meds to hit a proper range.  Its also pretty easy to use labs that indicate normal male/female ranges.   Some of the more variable things like doing estrogen without blockers might not be on your GPs radar but take my advice and bring in some print outs to ask your doctor about.   Be prepared to learn everything on the Internet is not correct.   

[Joanna Jones CD]

I think the policy is to try to limit the number of people who self medicate

Self medicating without doctor overview is playing Russian roulette.  Is that what you really want to do with your body?  Most of us would say no.  But excluding some information for all to see, is not the answer.  I am new to HRT having just started 3 months ago.  But I live in an area of the country that have doctors with very limited knowledge or none at all when it comes to MtF.  In another 6-12 months, I will be moving to Las Vegas.  It looks like there are a few doctors with more than enough expertise in this field that will be able to take over my care.  Still though, I want as much information as possible with the risks/rewards associated with HRT.  I know from other websites what other people are taking for dosage.  Anyone that is self medicating can go to those same sites to get that info too.  I just feel a complete full discussion might help the overall general group as a whole.  I know that it will never happen here at this site, but just my opinion.

Each person needs are totally different from someone else.  The proper dosage must be made by the doctor and patient, not from some website as an absolute figure.  I love data points.  The more that I have the better that I feel in making life long modifications to my body.

[Bibi]

Ok, after almost exactly 5 months, I am at 98 pg/mL estradiol and 48 ng/dL testosterone. Not sure where that puts me as my next appointment is next week, but it seems like some progress!

[Jenny1969]

Hello

I am eagerly waiting for my labs to come back.  They drew blood on the 30th so any day now.   This will be only 1 month on E for me.......Do you want those numbers or no?

[pamelatransuk]

Bibi

Thank you for your readings which I shall add to the tables mid February.

Jenny

Any readings are always welcome. Thanking you in advance for yours next week.

Hugs

Pamela

[Bibi]

Thank you, Pamela!!

[Linde]

I don't know how to convert my US levels into international ones (can somebody post the formula for that, please?)

I was just tested, after 3 months on HRT.  However, my doc feels that my T levels were very low for many years already.

T 74
E 63.8

I seem to be low on T and E.  T might go away fully, once I had my orchi in a few weeks (days??, depending on scheduling).
I don't know how I can convince my endo to increase my estrogen, he does no want it to be more because of the danger of DVT!  I might want to find an endo who is willing to take a little more risk with me!  But there are not many endos around here in southern Florida, because of the old population they are not really needed!

[Jenny1969]

Bibi

Thank you for your readings which I shall add to the tables mid February.

Jenny

Any readings are always welcome. Thanking you in advance for yours next week.

Hugs





Ok here is what I got for my first lab results after 30 days on HRT

E-45
T-3.47

Pamela

[Dena]

I don't know how to convert my US levels into international ones (can somebody post the formula for that, please?)

ESTRADIOL LEVELS
SEX                     pg/ml
Women (> 18 years old)   
      Follicular Phase  30-120
      Ovulatory Peak   130-370
      Luteal Phase      70-250
      Post-Menopausal   15-60
Male                    15-60

TOTAL TESTOSTERONE LEVELS
SEX      ng/dl        ng/ml
Females  6 - 86     0.1 - 1.2
Males  270 - 1100   2.4 - 12
Conversion factor: 1 ng/ml = 3.47 nmol/l

[Linde]

ESTRADIOL LEVELS
SEX                     pg/ml
Women (> 18 years old)   
      Follicular Phase  30-120
      Ovulatory Peak   130-370
      Luteal Phase      70-250
      Post-Menopausal   15-60
Male                    15-60

TOTAL TESTOSTERONE LEVELS
SEX      ng/dl        ng/ml
Females  6 - 86     0.1 - 1.2
Males  270 - 1100   2.4 - 12
Conversion factor: 1 ng/ml = 3.47 nmol/l

Thanks!  That seems to indicate that I basically do not have any testosterone to speak of (or am in the female range).  I am also with E in the luteal phase at the very low end.  The devil knows how I should feminize more than my system is doing anyway!  I think I have to find a different endo!

[pamelatransuk]

Linde

Clearly you are interested in BT readings as am I and as is KathyLauren.

I attach below Kathy's "Unit Conversions" thread which explains arithmetical calculations.


https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,234373.msg2104271.html#msg2104271

Hugs

Pamela

[Linde]

Linde

Clearly you are interested in BT readings as am I and as is KathyLauren.

I attach below Kathy's "Unit Conversions" thread which explains arithmetical calculations.


https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,234373.msg2104271.html#msg2104271

Hugs

Pamela

Thank you Pamela!

[judithlynn]

Hi Pamela;
I am due to get my T, E and P tests done next week and I have my E & T results for the last couple of years. When i get the new results I will post up my results as well. Note I have been on E only for nearly 11 years and Promethium for just 1 year. I have never had T Blockers, mainly because my T was so low to start with.
Judith Lynnn

[pamelatransuk]

Hello again Judith

Thank you very much for agreeing to post your E&T results next week including 2 years retrospection. I am most grateful for that.

I hope you don't mind me asking but on the "Periodlike Symptoms" thread you stated your T in nmol as expected for Australia (or UK) but you stated your E in pg/ml (US system) instead of the customary pmol. Did you do the conversion yourself from Intl to US as per "Unit Conversions" thread attached to replies to this thread on Feb 7th or is your E of 163 in fact in pmol please?

Thanking you

Hugs

Pamela