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How many hours of genital electro did you need?

Started by Megan., November 20, 2018, 01:11:15 PM

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For those who needed genital electrolysis, how many hours did you need before being ready for surgery?

Less than 5 hours.
1 (14.3%)
Between 5 and 10 hours
0 (0%)
Between 10 and 15 hours
0 (0%)
Between 15 and 20 hours
0 (0%)
More than 20 hours
6 (85.7%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Megan.

I'm currently at 3.5 hours, have another 2 hours booked in with the tech, over the next 6 weeks.
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Devlyn

I haven't done any, but I've spent plenty of time thinking "ohgodthatmusthurt!"  ;D
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Kendra

One year.  But not the entire year... I also did a few other things with my time.  ;)

For a full year before GCS I was already sort of finishing up electrolysis in other areas - cleaning up body hair that was somewhat re-growing after laser, and facial hair was getting rare.  I don't have an exact number but I'm pretty sure at least 20 hours downstairs.  My goal was zero hair below my eyebrows (well I did keep my eyelashes too).  Some GCS surgeons provide an illustration showing what is medically necessary to clear and I went waaay beyond that.

When I had my in-person GCS evaluation after a year of clearing, Dr. Ley seemed surprised and said I was medically ready for GCS the following day if I wanted.  I am guessing some patients come in with quite a bit of hair and get as much removed as possible while on the waitlist.  With the way hair growth works, I think clearing hair far in advance is a good idea.

Pain from electrolysis was worse after starting estradiol.  I'm glad I completed the majority of this before HRT. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Dani

It took me over 20 hours to clear the genital area. Even though it only took about 5 hours for one clearing, the hairs just kept growing back.

The area cleared was the penis shaft, a one inch area around the shaft, the entire scrotum and a one inch wide strip from the scrotum to the anus.

Yes, it hurt a lot, but it was worth it once I was post op.

The only difficulty was finding an electrologist who was willing to work on this area. Many will do bikini line electrolysis, but only a few will go near male genitals and only after a relationship of trust is established. I had to be honest and sincere about my need to transition. Once trust was established, I brought in a diagram of the areas my surgeon wanted cleared. When my electrologist understood what needed to happen, she was more than willing to provide the electrolysis needed.
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Katie

Six sessions of laser got rid of beard hair but gotee area. I ended up buying my own Aplius electroysys machine and finished it all myself.

COUNTLESS HOURS in front of a mirror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jessica_Rose

I am probably around the 12 hour point now. I expect at least that much more. You really don't want any hair growing in your vagina, so you need to keep going until it stops coming back (plan for 9 - 12 months). Although it is really uncomfortable, taking some ibuprofen or other painkillers will help. I with @Kendra on this, I have always hated body hair. Although my electrologist is concentrating on the areas specified by my surgeon, if there is time left in our session she goes for anything she can find!
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Linde

What hair clearing would be required if one will not get a vagina, but a vulva and a clitoris only?.  I am lucky and am not a very hairy person, but some of the stuff may need to be removed, I wonder how much if a vagina is not desired?

The next question is, who does this stuff?  Is this done by the same beauty salon people who do my beard?  Or do I need to see another specialist for this?
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ChrissyRyan

Quote from: Dietlind on November 23, 2018, 09:15:58 AM
What hair clearing would be required if one will not gt a vagina, but a vulva and a clitoris only?.  I am lucky and am not a very hairy person, but some of the stuff may need to be removed, I wonder how much if a vagina is not desired?

The next question is, who does this stuff?  Is this done by the same beauty salon people who do my beard?  Or do I need to see another specialist for this?


This seems to be a most unappealing procedure!  For anywhere down there!

Chrissy
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Megan.



Quote from: Dietlind on November 23, 2018, 09:15:58 AM
What hair clearing would be required if one will not gt a vagina, but a vulva and a clitoris only?.  I am lucky and am not a very hairy person, but some of the stuff may need to be removed, I wonder how much if a vagina is not desired?

The next question is, who does this stuff?  Is this done by the same beauty salon people who do my beard?  Or do I need to see another specialist for this?

Hair removal is not (at least in my case) generally needed for a vulvaplasty only a vaginoplasty.

For vaginoplasty,  the surgeons seem to prefer electrolysis over laser if at at possible, due to its reduced chance of late regrowth.

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Jessica_Rose

Quote from: Dietlind on November 23, 2018, 09:15:58 AM

The next question is, who does this stuff?  Is this done by the same beauty salon people who do my beard?  Or do I need to see another specialist for this?

Not many electrologists will do this. I am only aware of three within a 100 mile radius of my home. Luckily the electrologist I started out with (a one-woman company) eventually got approval from her husband to work on me.
Journal thread - Jessica's Rose Garden
National Coming Out Day video - Coming Out
GCS - GCS and BA w/Dr. Ley
GCS II - GCS II and FFS w/Dr. Ley
FFS II - Jaw and chin surgery w/Dr. Ley
Hair - Hair Restoration
23Mar2017 - HRT / 16Feb2018 - Full Time! / 21Feb2019 - GCS / 26July2019 - GCS II / 13Oct2020 - FFS II
"It is never too late to be what you might have been." - George Eliot
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Zumbagirl

I put in more than 20 hours spread out over a period of 1-1.5 years. It delayed my srs surgery but it was worth it to me. It was almost like normal electrolysis. It was every week at the beginning, then every other week, then once a month for touchups and then one day the electrologist said you're a done deal.
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Kendra

Some electrologists charge extra to work in this area.  Before starting all this I assumed the reason for charging extra was because electrologists can get away with it.  Having done all this I now know that's not necessarily the case - this area is technically challenging to work on.  Not just because some clients might occasionally hit the ceiling (as I almost did) but because genital hair grows in random directions and the root bulbs in this area are different.  These unique root bulbs might also be why MTF HRT doesn't substantially reduce hair in this area.

In other areas my electrologist (very experienced) spent about 4 seconds on each root.  In the genital area, about 2 to 3 times slower. 

At my initial appointment I asked about working on this area at some point in the future.  (In 2015 I was undecided on transition but I was certain I wanted to get rid of hair).  Her answer was "skin is skin."  In other words, a good electrologist doesn't worry about any social barriers and just focuses on getting the job done. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Linde

Thanks, this gives me some idea.  Would somebody have a link to some graphics that allows to judge the hair growth down there?  I have absolutely no idea, what is lots of hair growth, normal hair growth or little hair growth.

I hope mine is among the little growth!
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Michelle_P

In my particular case, the initial clearing of the area the surgeon wanted hair-free took 2.3 hours.  The area was then re-cleared every 2-3 weeks, and after 6 months remained hair free, with a total of 8.5 hours of electrolysis work.  I was fortunate to have not too much hair there (I have essentially no body hair), and a very experienced, fast electrolyst.

Discomfort-wise any work around the upper or lower lip was far more painful thn the genital work. I used EMLA cream for the genital work, sealed under strips of plastic wrap to maximize effect until time to work on a particular area.
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Linde

Quote from: Michelle_P on November 24, 2018, 02:00:45 AM
In my particular case, the initial clearing of the area the surgeon wanted hair-free took 2.3 hours.  The area was then re-cleared every 2-3 weeks, and after 6 months remained hair free, with a total of 8.5 hours of electrolysis work.  I was fortunate to have not too much hair there (I have essentially no body hair), and a very experienced, fast electrolyst.

Discomfort-wise any work around the upper or lower lip was far more painful thn the genital work. I used EMLA cream for the genital work, sealed under strips of plastic wrap to maximize effect until time to work on a particular area.
It seems that you have pretty much a similar body hair condition like I have (not a single visible hair growing higher up on my body than my pubic hair).
I now have to find out how much of the pubic hair needs to be removed for a vulva plastic only.
I just read on the MTF surgery site that a vulvoplasty with minimal depth vaginal canal (I think they do this minimal depth vagina for aesthetic reasons)  requires no hair removal.  That would be great as far as pain and money saving goes!
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LexiDreamer

#15
Here is the document that Dr. McGinn's office sent me for what they think is necessary to clear for surgery if anyone is interested....

It's NSFW, of course.

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Linde

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Quote from: LexiDreamer on March 25, 2019, 07:44:14 PM
Here is the document that Dr. McGinn's office sent me for what they think is necessary to clear for surgery if anyone is interested....

It's NSFW, of course.

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Thanks Lexi!  I appreciate this info a lot!
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LexiDreamer

Quote from: Dietlind on March 25, 2019, 08:36:59 PM
Thanks Lexi!  I appreciate this info a lot!

You are very welcome!
I figured someone would find it useful. I knew it was hard for me to find the info online when I looked into what it was going to take.

I also have a document on what they want to see in the referral letters as well, if anyone wants to see that as well.
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LexiDreamer

I just realized that you're looking for a shallow depth procedure?
Bare in mind the pictures in that document are for full vaginoplasty GCS.
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Linde

Quote from: LexiDreamer on March 25, 2019, 09:50:52 PM
I just realized that you're looking for a shallow depth procedure?
Bare in mind the pictures in that document are for full vaginoplasty GCS.
But they give a general idea for what needs to be removed.  I don't know what the do with the penile skin with a limited depth procedure, they might use it for the labia minor, which, means the hair would need to be also removed.
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