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Started by MissKatie, November 25, 2018, 07:30:04 PM

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Devlyn

Quote from: NatalieRene on November 26, 2018, 04:28:26 PM
One thing to keep in mind is if you have the orchi you will physically have less material to use for the GRS procedure. The skin is used in the procedure and if it is gone there is less to work with.

No skin is removed during an orchiectomy. An incision is made, the testicles are removed, and the scrotum is sutured.

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dee82

Quote from: Devlyn on November 26, 2018, 04:35:53 PM
No skin is removed during an orchiectomy. An incision is made, the testicles are removed, and the scrotum is sutured.

I heard the scrotum may shrink if left too long before SRS, so there is less to work with. Not a deal breaker, but my doctor advised if there is any possibility of SRS down the track, to think twice before getting an orchiodectomy early in my transition.
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salaniaseviltwin

Quote from: dee82 on November 26, 2018, 05:52:08 PM
I heard the scrotum may shrink if left too long before SRS, so there is less to work with. Not a deal breaker, but my doctor advised if there is any possibility of SRS down the track, to think twice before getting an orchiodectomy early in my transition.
This just means that they would have to use material from another part if your body. It's recommended, from my understanding, that if you are considering SRS in the future and have an orchiectomy in advance, that you stretch the scrotum to keep the material as large as possible.

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Quote from: salaniaseviltwin on November 26, 2018, 06:39:37 PM
This just means that they would have to use material from another part if your body. It's recommended, from my understanding, that if you are considering SRS in the future and have an orchiectomy in advance, that you stretch the scrotum to keep the material as large as possible.

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Quote from: Battle Goddess on November 27, 2018, 09:23:07 AM
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From my understanding, you simply pull on it.  This is from memory, which could be false. I can't find the document I believe I read it in previously. Though it does make sense, since dilation in necessary after SRS.

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Devlyn

Quote from: salaniaseviltwin on November 27, 2018, 10:06:10 AM
From my understanding, you simply pull on it.  This is from memory, which could be false. I can't find the document I believe I read it in previously. Though it does make sense, since dilation in necessary after SRS.


Mucho bettero if you can get someone else to do the pulling, though.  >:-)
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Dany

Well, I believe that is quite a complicated matter. Each person goes through a different experience and will have a different personality, which most certainly will affect rather or not you'll want the GRS surgery.

Personally for me, my miserable genitals are the center of what makes my life, let's say, hard to live more often than I'd like. I'm not just talking about the fact that because of it I have no sexual life and then end up being lonely and craving sex and human touch, no, I'm talking about things like tucking. Tucking is...a miserable thing. If today was the last day I'd ever tuck in my life it would be too long. I absolutely hate it! I may even be on a good day but uh...when it's the 10th time in the morning I had to go to the bathroom to fix the tuck, it really starts to wear you off. I could just go on here for a long time saying how much this physical defect sucks.

All in all, that's just me, it's really up to you. Let your transition happen and see how you'll deal with tucking, how much you'll be able to live with it or not. Personally I think that having to constantly be worried rather or not it's visible makes life a little sad, but maybe you will have a better time than me. I say this because it can really affect your psychology. 

Don't worry about that yet, let time tell you what'll happen. 
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Beverly Anne

The longer I lived full time as female, especially after HRT settled in, and I began dating again, the more I realized I needed surgery to complete the real me emotionally and physically.
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Linde

Quote from: MissKatie on November 25, 2018, 07:30:04 PM
Hi girls and guys :)
I think this may be a little weird so here I go again with some random questions and thoughts :)

So, assuming it all goes through, soon I will be on HRT, which is great and wonderful and I am happy and nervous.

I'm excited I'm going to have a gradual face change, hair change, body change and breasts and that's going to be amazing. Right now however, I just don't feel the need for a vagina. I don't hate my penis and as nobody else sees it and it's just there for peeing really.

Is this likely to change on HRT? Am I going to want a vagina in time? I don't want my testes at all.
I just came across this contribution.
I am pretty much like you I don't really have any problems with my male parts, they are just there.  I am changing for a few years now, but am now in addition to my biological changes on HRT.  I still have no problems with the plumbing, however, I would like to have my testicles removed because they are very sensitiv against any kind of touch and hurt quite a bit.  They don't have any purpose anymore anyway.

Eventually I would like to have a vulva and clitoris, but I don't need a vagina because I am asexual for over 10 years now, and don't see this changing either.  I can't even remember what libido is!
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Quote from: NatalieRene on November 26, 2018, 04:28:26 PM
One thing to keep in mind is if you have the orchi you will physically have less material to use for the GRS procedure. The skin is used in the procedure and if it is gone there is less to work with.

Hi Natalie,                        28 November 2018

Everyone reacts to HRT, Orchie, and all the related treatments/procedures in their own way. When I started my transition 08 March of this year, having an orchiectomy was right at the top of my list. I had lived with the ravages of testosterone for 77 years and hated it once I figured out it was at the root source of many personal problems. Before I did anything I read Devlyn's Orchie thread and realized that was exactly what I wanted to do, with some modification.

I went on HRT sans spiro / no AA's 27 March 2018. On Friday 13 April 2018 I had a Bilateral, radical, inguinal Orchiectomy. Now, this sounds more complex and difficult than a simple. Nothing could be further from the truth. The scrotum was not cut, two small incisions, one over each side of the inguinal canals about 1.5 inches long. The testacies were pushed up through the canal and out through the incision. Once out the spermatic cords were clamped and tied off before being completely severed. At that moment testosterone production ceased with the exception of what the adrenal gland produces in both male and female bodies.

The two incisions were closed with multiple layers being sutured with dissolvable stiches. This procedure was done in about 30 minute under a modified general anesthesia (Propofol only with no sedation and no intubation, I was breathing on my own). When I awoke I was fully conscious within minutes. I had zero pain, only minor discomfort for the first two days, which a total of 6 Tylenol took care of. I had a minor amount of bruising (hematoma) of the scrotum and a small amount on the penis. I was back doing heavy work after a week and a half. The bruising disappeared quickly and the incisions healed in less than a week. Now they are almost invisible.

There was zero loss of tissue with the exception of the testis themselves. Yes, the scrotum has thankfully shrunk to a minor/tiny pouch that is barely noticeable. The penis has remained much the same as it was with the exception that erections have not occurred since the night before the orchi when I treated Wilbur to a final hurrah.

I am completely happy with my decision to have the orchi. The last hormone check I had my "T" was <3, not measurable, my PSA was .9 from a high of 4.9 prior to the orchi. I'm 78 and have had a long history of BPH (enlarged Prostate), which made peeing difficult and at times almost impossible. Wilbur now functions as a drain pipe for the bladder and a fine job it does at that.

Where do I go from here; I am seriously considering SRS though I do not know whether full depth vagina or the cosmetic. The latter requires much less maintenance and I have no intention of having a relationship with a male so the latter is probably the choice I'll make; at this point in my life there are many other things in life besides sexual intercourse with the opposite sex. Been there and done that; highly over rated in my humble opinion.

I have photos of the surgery which I would be willing to share if it were allowed; it's not so you will have to use your imagination. There is nothing sexual about them, they just show the testicles being removed and what they look like once they are outside the body.

My main thread has a bit of recent info on a medical glitch in my transition. You can read about it here:

    Transgender talk / Re: Christine's Adventures on the "Transition Highway"

Read my most recent posts on this latest negative development in my transition. I think it's worth a read to make one aware of a possible dangerous condition, DVT. It just might save someone from serious consequences should they ignore the symptoms.

Sorry I took so much space here on this thread; I wish only the best for everyone here at Susan's Place.

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Quote from: christinej78 on November 28, 2018, 04:05:10 AM
Hi Natalie,                        28 November 2018

Everyone reacts to HRT, Orchie, and all the related treatments/procedures in their own way. When I started my transition 08 March of this year, having an orchiectomy was right at the top of my list. I had lived with the ravages of testosterone for 77 years and hated it once I figured out it was at the root source of many personal problems. Before I did anything I read Devlyn's Orchie thread and realized that was exactly what I wanted to do, with some modification.

I went on HRT sans spiro / no AA's 27 March 2018. On Friday 13 April 2018 I had a Bilateral, radical, inguinal Orchiectomy. Now, this sounds more complex and difficult than a simple. Nothing could be further from the truth. The scrotum was not cut, two small incisions, one over each side of the inguinal canals about 1.5 inches long. The testacies were pushed up through the canal and out through the incision. Once out the spermatic cords were clamped and tied off before being completely severed. At that moment testosterone production ceased with the exception of what the adrenal gland produces in both male and female bodies.

The two incisions were closed with multiple layers being sutured with dissolvable stiches. This procedure was done in about 30 minute under a modified general anesthesia (Propofol only with no sedation and no intubation, I was breathing on my own). When I awoke I was fully conscious within minutes. I had zero pain, only minor discomfort for the first two days, which a total of 6 Tylenol took care of. I had a minor amount of bruising (hematoma) of the scrotum and a small amount on the penis. I was back doing heavy work after a week and a half. The bruising disappeared quickly and the incisions healed in less than a week. Now they are almost invisible.

There was zero loss of tissue with the exception of the testis themselves. Yes, the scrotum has thankfully shrunk to a minor/tiny pouch that is barely noticeable. The penis has remained much the same as it was with the exception that erections have not occurred since the night before the orchi when I treated Wilbur to a final hurrah.

I am completely happy with my decision to have the orchi. The last hormone check I had my "T" was <3, not measurable, my PSA was .9 from a high of 4.9 prior to the orchi. I'm 78 and have had a long history of BPH (enlarged Prostate), which made peeing difficult and at times almost impossible. Wilbur now functions as a drain pipe for the bladder and a fine job it does at that.

Where do I go from here; I am seriously considering SRS though I do not know whether full depth vagina or the cosmetic. The latter requires much less maintenance and I have no intention of having a relationship with a male so the latter is probably the choice I'll make; at this point in my life there are many other things in life besides sexual intercourse with the opposite sex. Been there and done that; highly over rated in my humble opinion.

I have photos of the surgery which I would be willing to share if it were allowed; it's not so you will have to use your imagination. There is nothing sexual about them, they just show the testicles being removed and what they look like once they are outside the body.

My main thread has a bit of recent info on a medical glitch in my transition. You can read about it here:

    Transgender talk / Re: Christine's Adventures on the "Transition Highway"

Read my most recent posts on this latest negative development in my transition. I think it's worth a read to make one aware of a possible dangerous condition, DVT. It just might save someone from serious consequences should they ignore the symptoms.

Sorry I took so much space here on this thread; I wish only the best for everyone here at Susan's Place.

Best Always, Love
Chris

Thank you for the detailed description. I'm about to have this done early next year. I particularly like the fact that the scrotum reduces (SRS isn't high on my list of must do things... though it might be nice). I've planned a week off to give myself a chance to recover as I'm a special needs teacher and my job is very active. I'd like to give everything a chance to heal nicely before I put stress on that area again.
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