Not needing a vagina?

[MissKatie]

Hi girls and guys
I think this may be a little weird so here I go again with some random questions and thoughts

So, assuming it all goes through, soon I will be on HRT, which is great and wonderful and I am happy and nervous.

I'm excited I'm going to have a gradual face change, hair change, body change and breasts and that's going to be amazing. Right now however, I just don't feel the need for a vagina. I don't hate my penis and as nobody else sees it and it's just there for peeing really.

Is this likely to change on HRT? Am I going to want a vagina in time? I don't want my testes at all.

[b3ckettn3lson]

I have heard that things can change (at least in the ftm groups). Right now you might find that your current setup works for you. Maybe years later you'll want that to change...or maybe you won't. Only time will tell [emoji6]


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[KathyLauren]

It is too soon to worry about that.  Wait until you have been on HRT for a while.  Maybe you will decide to have the surgery, maybe you won't.  There is nothing that says you have to.  Either way, take the time to see how you feel about it, and then do whatever is right for you.

I don't feel the need for a vagina, but I don't want my penis.  So I will be asking for the minimal-depth procedure.  Just another option to consider.

[salaniaseviltwin]

To be honest with you the only thing I ever anticipated was an orchiectomy, which I'm recovering from at the moment. I never thought about getting GRS, but I have been considering it recently, but that is still a few years away.

Just like everyone else is saying, take your time in that thought process. My answer is still years away from me.

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[Maya2018]

Does shrinkage from HRT factor into this for anyone? If I can get everything shrunk enough then the gcs seems unlikely.

[dee82]

Hi Katie, I can't say whether your feelings will change after hormones. But I do feel the same as you. An orchidectomy would be nice, but the rest? Well, I don't care enought either way to worry about it.

Time will tell...

[MissKatie]

Hi Katie, I can't say whether your feelings will change after hormones. But I do feel the same as you. An orchidectomy would be nice, but the rest? Well, I don't care enought either way to worry about it.

Time will tell...

Yeah definitely nice. Those two disgusting things are the cause of all these problems and get rid of that silly bag and then I can tuck the penis away and get on with my life

[dee82]

Those two disgusting things are the cause of all these problems and get rid of that silly bag...

Exactly, they really get in the way of my love for skinny tight jeans.

[Devlyn]

I'm happy with my penis and no testicles setup.  No vagina in my future. Well, on me, anyway. 

[emma-f]

Hi girls and guys
I think this may be a little weird so here I go again with some random questions and thoughts

So, assuming it all goes through, soon I will be on HRT, which is great and wonderful and I am happy and nervous.

I'm excited I'm going to have a gradual face change, hair change, body change and breasts and that's going to be amazing. Right now however, I just don't feel the need for a vagina. I don't hate my penis and as nobody else sees it and it's just there for peeing really.

Is this likely to change on HRT? Am I going to want a vagina in time? I don't want my testes at all.

I'm not sure if it could change because of the HRT, but it might change because of life experience. Whilst I always considered myself surgery tracked merely for my dysphoria, life as a woman with a penis can be such a pain in the backside that I think that could well have tipped me over. That constant worry about being found out. About worrying on a night out, or in a floaty summer dress that I might fall over, or the wind catch it, and the world see it. About being unable to wear normal yoga pants at the gym (or wearing them with an obvious bulge). I used to love swimming and I've not been in 8 years. And I travel a lot and its annoying being seen as an anomaly every time I go through security and I have to explain myself. And the fear of that travel that in the wrong country I might be imprisoned or worse. Or being able to sunbathe and turn over without having to publicly adjust yourself. But as others have said, this is very much an each to their own situation and there are many other options and outcomes as well.

Good luck

Emma x

[MissKatie]

I'm not sure if it could change because of the HRT, but it might change because of life experience. Whilst I always considered myself surgery tracked merely for my dysphoria, life as a woman with a penis can be such a pain in the backside that I think that could well have tipped me over. That constant worry about being found out. About worrying on a night out, or in a floaty summer dress that I might fall over, or the wind catch it, and the world see it. About being unable to wear normal yoga pants at the gym (or wearing them with an obvious bulge). I used to love swimming and I've not been in 8 years. And I travel a lot and its annoying being seen as an anomaly every time I go through security and I have to explain myself. And the fear of that travel that in the wrong country I might be imprisoned or worse. Or being able to sunbathe and turn over without having to publicly adjust yourself. But as others have said, this is very much an each to their own situation and there are many other options and outcomes as well.

Good luck

Emma x

These are things I hadn't even considered you know. I'm just starting out and it's still going to be a while until I am confident enough to even leave the house with makeup on.
Really good points there. Gives me a lot to think about

[pamelatransuk]

Hello again Katie

You may recall from previous threads that I have been on HRT since February and I am publicly transitioning in 2019.

My 3 areas of body dysphoria are body hair which narrowly leads in GD the 2 things between my legs. I dislike all 3. The body hair I am having removed leaving the genitalia as the only problem. I can confirm that you should get reduction on HRT as I have.

I suggest you take your time to decide best option. As for me, I have already ruled out Orchie and therefore I want either ZDV or V. I will need time to make decision.

Hugs

Pamela

[krobinson103]

Thats a question I've been debating lately. I have orchiodectomy coming up next March and I'm ready and mentally prepared for that. SRS I have to pay for myself, it takes me offline for at least 6 weeks, and, there is ongoing maintenance. Is it worth all that? I'm not sure.

Lose the revolting little poison factories and I'm pretty sure I'm happy. We shall see. If not the back up plan is SRS in two years when I've found the cash.

[krobinson103]

I'm not sure if it could change because of the HRT, but it might change because of life experience. Whilst I always considered myself surgery tracked merely for my dysphoria, life as a woman with a penis can be such a pain in the backside that I think that could well have tipped me over. That constant worry about being found out. About worrying on a night out, or in a floaty summer dress that I might fall over, or the wind catch it, and the world see it. About being unable to wear normal yoga pants at the gym (or wearing them with an obvious bulge). I used to love swimming and I've not been in 8 years. And I travel a lot and its annoying being seen as an anomaly every time I go through security and I have to explain myself. And the fear of that travel that in the wrong country I might be imprisoned or worse. Or being able to sunbathe and turn over without having to publicly adjust yourself. But as others have said, this is very much an each to their own situation and there are many other options and outcomes as well.

Good luck

Emma x

To me I go swimming all the time. yes there is a slight bulge (pre any op) after orchie it should be almost unnoticable. No one looks or even cares. You might run into changing room issues but I just avoid that by using the family changing rooms. Bathroom isn't an issue. I wear skinny jeans and other tight clothes all the time. Just requires the right pair of underwear to keep things nice and out of the way.

[Megan.]

Hi girls and guys
I think this may be a little weird so here I go again with some random questions and thoughts

So, assuming it all goes through, soon I will be on HRT, which is great and wonderful and I am happy and nervous.

I'm excited I'm going to have a gradual face change, hair change, body change and breasts and that's going to be amazing. Right now however, I just don't feel the need for a vagina. I don't hate my penis and as nobody else sees it and it's just there for peeing really.

Is this likely to change on HRT? Am I going to want a vagina in time? I don't want my testes at all.

I've always felt quite indifferent to my body and its various parts.

I started HRT to resolve my GD -  which it worked for. The physical changes I've seen to date have been good to help me pass/be accepted, but were never my priority.

When it comes to my bottom zone, you'll see (in my GRS Observations thread) I've been debating the vulvaplasty/vaginoplasty option for some time. Only a medical problem with my OEM kit has removed the option of an Orchi from my considerations.

For some, their genitalia is a key part of their gender identity, for others it is not - both views are valid, it is an individual stance.

Personally, I don't think HRT in itself has effected my views on this at all. However living full-time as (to at intensive purposes) a binary woman has tinted my views. Developing a greater appreciation of the subtleties of the gender spectrum during my transition has also effected my views.

Take your time,  whatever your choice. X

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[Donica]

Dear Katie! Many here have given you many thing to consider. Things do shrink over time on HRT, making it very easy to hide the evil twins even in skinny jeans. On that note, you may want to wait before opting for an Orchi. Over time, an Orchi will cause things to shrink even more to the point that it can be surgically difficult if you do decide to go with a GCS. One thing that you should know if you do decide to go with a GCS, you may want to start hair removal Yesterday. It's all up to you to decide. For me, I knew I wanted a GCS at a very young age. It was just a matter of finding the financing. HRT has certainly helped me feel more feminine. But I don't think it would have made a difference.

Hope this help.
Donica.

[Devlyn]

Dear Katie! Many here have given you many thing to consider. Things do shrink over time on HRT, making it very easy to hide the evil twins even in skinny jeans. On that note, you may want to wait before opting for an Orchi. Over time, an Orchi will cause things to shrink even more to the point that it can be surgically difficult if you do decide to go with a GCS. One thing that you should know if you do decide to go with a GCS, you may want to start hair removal Yesterday. It's all up to you to decide. For me, I knew I wanted a GCS at a very young age. It was just a matter of finding the financing. HRT has certainly helped me feel more feminine. But I don't think it would have made a difference.

Hope this help.
Donica.

I think that is old school advice from the good ol'days of wide scars. I asked my orchiectomy surgeon last year about GRS after an orchi and he said no problem. He pointed out the elasticity of the tissues involved...think erections and where your testicles are in summer vs where they are in winter.

Hugs, Devlyn

[Donica]

I think that is old school advice from the good ol'days of wide scars. I asked my orchiectomy surgeon last year about GRS after an orchi and he said no problem. He pointed out the elasticity of the tissues involved...think erections and where your testicles are in summer vs where they are in winter.

Hugs, Devlyn

I'll stand corrected. In that case, there is now reason not to opt for an orchi. That is if your certain you won't want them back. It would eliminate having to take T-Blockers. Still I don't need an orchi. After long term HRT, they do well to hide themselves.

[Devlyn]

I'll stand corrected. In that case, there is now reason not to opt for an orchi. That is if your certain you won't want them back. It would eliminate having to take T-Blockers. Still I don't need an orchi. After long term HRT, they do well to hide themselves.

I'm sure it's case by case, and everyone should ask their own surgeon. 

[NatalieRene]

One thing to keep in mind is if you have the orchi you will physically have less material to use for the GRS procedure. The skin is used in the procedure and if it is gone there is less to work with.