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Started by Zoey421, December 19, 2018, 10:41:33 AM

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KimOct

Ft. Myers LOL  I spent several weeks in multiple years in the last condo building on the south tip of the beach.  Love it.

Definitely do Sephora if they are close to you.  I am very confident the staff will be very welcoming.  Most young women think we are cool and tend to gravitate towards us.  I guess we are hip LOL.

For those reading but not participating - if you are nervous but want to get started with 'real' makeup go into these types of places the staff are almost always great.

Much different than 30 years ago when I would sneak into Walgreen's and buy tampons etc with the makeup.  Boy that was tricky of me trying to disguise it. LMAO  ;D  God the stories I could tell of stupid stuff I did back in the day trying to stay in the closet.  Someday I will tell the story of my first wig purchase.  ;D ;D ;D

Zoey - sorry for the big tangent off your topic but I thought about it while typing this.  Having some tangents keeps your thread going which is great.  Most introductions fade into oblivion rather quickly but yours now has a life.  So I will say both - I am sorry - and you are welcome.  :D
The first transphobe you have to conquer is yourself
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tgirlamg

Quote from: KimOct on February 05, 2019, 12:57:09 AM
Ft. Myers LOL  I spent several weeks in multiple years in the last condo building on the south tip of the beach.  Love it.

Definitely do Sephora if they are close to you.  I am very confident the staff will be very welcoming.  Most young women think we are cool and tend to gravitate towards us.  I guess we are hip LOL.

For those reading but not participating - if you are nervous but want to get started with 'real' makeup go into these types of places the staff are almost always great.

Much different than 30 years ago when I would sneak into Walgreen's and buy tampons etc with the makeup.  Boy that was tricky of me trying to disguise it. LMAO  ;D  God the stories I could tell of stupid stuff I did back in the day trying to stay in the closet.  Someday I will tell the story of my first wig purchase.  ;D ;D ;D

Zoey - sorry for the big tangent off your topic but I thought about it while typing this.  Having some tangents keeps your thread going which is great.  Most introductions fade into oblivion rather quickly but yours now has a life.  So I will say both - I am sorry - and you are welcome.  :D

Hey Sis!!!

Ha!!! The Walgreens story made me laugh!!!... I did the tampon trick too or just tried to hold a shopping list (which I tried to do in "girly" writing) and, I tried to look confused as possible as I selected the makeup items!!!... The lengths we went to to hide eh?... funny! ... and sad!... and FUNNY!!! 😂

Onward we go brave sisters... Hide no more!!!

Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌸

"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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KimOct

IKR  ;D  I have all kinds of stupid stories, excuses etc from back in the day.  I think it sounds like a topic - What is the funniest stupidest thing you did to get girl stuff while you were still in the closet?  I think I am on it.
Love you too Ashley
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Emma1017

I love the idea sharing all the  silly and embarrassing things we did to have those feminine moments in the closet. We all deserve a shared laugh given all the pain we have collectively shared.

I'm in!  Where do we start the topic?
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Linde

Quote from: tgirlamg on February 05, 2019, 11:43:23 PM
Hey Sis!!!

Ha!!! The Walgreens story made me laugh!!!... I did the tampon trick too or just tried to hold a shopping list (which I tried to do in "girly" writing) and, I tried to look confused as possible as I selected the makeup items!!!... The lengths we went to to hide eh?... funny! ... and sad!... and FUNNY!!! 😂

Onward we go brave sisters... Hide no more!!!

Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌸
Did we all learn this shopping trick in the book "How to become a real Woman"?.  Because it worked very well (at least I had the feeling) for me, too!
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tgirlamg

Quote from: Dietlind on February 06, 2019, 08:54:42 AM
Did we all learn this shopping trick in the book "How to become a real Woman"?.  Because it worked very well (at least I had the feeling) for me, too!

Hey Linde!...

Yes!... That trick is in chapter one my dear sister!!!

It does work well... I can tell because mobs of angry villagers never chased me with torches, pitchforksand assorted other sharp farm implements!... 🤪

Behold the power of buying tampons with what you want!!! 😀👍

Then get serious and behold the power of living a life that is FINALLY, and TRULY our own!!! 🤗❤️🌻


Onward we go brave sisters... Hide no more!!!


Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌺
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Linde

Quote from: tgirlamg on February 06, 2019, 10:26:38 AM
Hey Linde!...

Yes!... That trick is in chapter one my dear sister!!!

It does work well... I can tell because mobs of angry villagers never chased me with torches, pitchforksand assorted other sharp farm implements!... 🤪

Behold the power of buying tampons with what you want!!! 😀👍


Onward we go brave sisters... Hide no more!!!


Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌺
And there ist was, the absolut horror of bra shopping!  Sneaking through the bra isles of Walmart, wasting lots of mony on heap bras to find out what size bra would fit, and hoping the checkout person would believe we bought another cheap and crappy bra for our female partner!

We went on, brave as we are, and along the way we found out that nobody really cares what we buy, as long as we pay for it!

The journey is still an adventure, and I like it!  Some of the excitement in my old days keeps me young!

And onward we go, younger and older sisters!
And lots of hugs along the way!
Linde
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Zoey421

Another new experience today. I travelled to eastern Canada today for business in full femme mode. I was nervous travelling outside Vancouver, a safe zone, and unsure what people's reactions would be. Had my fair share of stares and disapproving looks.

Held my head high but did cover my breasts at times particularly when going to use the washroom on the plane, standing waiting for the room to be free. The close quarters freaked me out.

The experience is a little weird. Something i will definitely have to get used to.

I male mode all day the next three days for business meetings and that will be the first time in weeks!

Had a Facebook messenger video chat with one of my friends as well. I told her last week I came out but not by video. She was a little shocked by the boobs, slightly uncomfortable laughter. I laughed too but secretly felt a little ashamed. I know she didn't mean any harm and she was taking in a new experience and picture of a friend she has known for 30 years. I'm seeing her in a one month and attending a play at the theater where she is General Manager. Need to figure out what to wear and mybe wear the less provocative bra.

I have chosen to face reality and all of its challenges head on. Of course there will be uncomfortable moments but i happy and proid for going all the way I can at this time.

I'm in Ottawa all next week and will be able to dress how I want for most of the time. Seeing more friends and I am sure their reaction will be fine, just need to prepare myself for the slightly shocked look because it will be the first they have seen me dressed en femme.

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Hugs Zoey xoxoxo


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Zoey421

At the hotel

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tgirlamg

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Hey Brave Little Sister!!!

I remember it being quite nerve wracking the first time I flew en femme to Texas ...it was about 6 weeks before FFS but, all went well and I will always remember conquering the fears fondly!!!... The close quarters of a plane are without a hiding place and let me be the first here to offer you kudos on your courageous step forward towards showing the world that there is a new girl in town... Her name is Zoey and I am proud to call her my sister!!!

Have a great rest of your trip!!!


Onward we go brave girl

Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌻
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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GordonG

Zoey, you're on a great new adventure. You'll figure things out as you go along. Wishing you well.
I'm a gender confused guy who lives an hour north of Seattle.
I believe that I was influenced by DES. I have crossdressed in public a handful of times, see avatar picture (enhanced with FaceApp).
I don't plan on transitioning, no GRS, FFS, nor BA.
I consider myself TransFeminine. But reserve the right to change my mind at any time.  ;D

Spironolactone; 7-16-2018
E sublinguals; 10-5-2018
Orchi; 2-15-19
No more Spiro. 

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tgirlamg

Quote from: GordonG on February 09, 2019, 01:01:31 PM
Zoey, you're on a great new adventure. You'll figure things out as you go along. Wishing you well.

@GordonG

I noticed in your signature you have a new adventure yourself next week!!! All good things to you and speedy healing!!!


Hugs!!!

Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌻
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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GordonG

Quote from: tgirlamg on February 09, 2019, 01:59:45 PM
GordonG

I noticed in your signature you have a new adventure yourself next week!!! All good things to you and speedy healing!!!

Hugs!!!

Ashley


Thank you Ashley! :D
I'm a gender confused guy who lives an hour north of Seattle.
I believe that I was influenced by DES. I have crossdressed in public a handful of times, see avatar picture (enhanced with FaceApp).
I don't plan on transitioning, no GRS, FFS, nor BA.
I consider myself TransFeminine. But reserve the right to change my mind at any time.  ;D

Spironolactone; 7-16-2018
E sublinguals; 10-5-2018
Orchi; 2-15-19
No more Spiro. 

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KimOct

Way to go Zoey !!!!  So proud to see the courage you are showing!!!  Keep it up.  The nerves will gradually subside.  IMHO it is the residue of internalized transphobia that most of us share.  That's where the embarrassment // shame comes from.

I remember the fist time I flew presenting as female. OMG I was terrified walking into the airport.  Still had my male name and identification.  Almost everyone was nice except one TSA agent that actually laughed at me and said 'well, well, well, and how are we today?'  A-hole.

Other than that it was fine.  I'm glad that other than some looks you were fine too.  It takes guts at first - and then eventually no big deal.

Gordon - so excited for your orchie - it does change things over time.  Mine was 2 years ago and I can tell the difference - just keep your expectations reasonable.  The pain is not terrible but I was definitely uncomfortable for 7 to 10 days.  Your doc will give you some restrictions but really not too much.  For me I stayed at home 3 days.  Good Luck !!!
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Linde

Quote from: KimOct on February 09, 2019, 09:50:38 PM

Gordon - so excited for your orchie - it does change things over time.  Mine was 2 years ago and I can tell the difference - just keep your expectations reasonable.  The pain is not terrible but I was definitely uncomfortable for 7 to 10 days.  Your doc will give you some restrictions but really not too much.  For me I stayed at home 3 days.  Good Luck !!!
Mine is coming up exactly a week after Gordon's.  Can you enlighten us a little about what changes over time?

I live alone, do I need to have somebody staying with me after the surgery?  I have one of my friends driving me, but have no idea if I have to ask some friends to see if they can stay with me.
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Dena

Now if you go under general they recommend that you be watched for the first 24 hours after surgery. Some people are fully functional a few hours after surgery while others may require the better part of the day. When I had voice surgery, I didn't have anybody to take the trip with me so I stayed in the hospital. Within a few hours after surgery the dizziness had wore off and I was trading my yellow gown for a blue one - the one that lets you wander without assistance. It will all depend on how you respond to the general.
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KimOct

What changes over time - well of course ymmv but for me I have far less body hair - not completely gone but I only shave it once a month.  Probably should every two weeks.  Also my skin is dramatically softer.  It feels the same as when I have touched women's skin ( TMI LOL ) but it feels great.  Also my breast development while small did improve.  I am only on 1/3 the usual patch dosage due to health issues and with the elimination of the testosterone I have seem some breast improvement.

My mood is definitely different - I see things that used to strike me as silly and think -'oh isn't that cute'.  I never believed when people said I would think differently but I can tell - it's not dramatic but it's noticeable.  My face has softened slightly - again not dramatically but just enough to notice.  My muscle mass has decreased somewhat.

Overall - none of the changes have been dramatic but enough to notice.  I am glad I did it for 2 reasons - first is that it qualified as GCS so I was able to change my birth certificate and social security ( I didn't know that Soc Sec knows your gender until I changed it )   the other reason is that the physical changes are at least noticeable.

As far as what to expect - I was at home by myself.  A friend drove me and dropped me off at home.  It hurt more in day 2 and 3 once the anesthesia wore off but it wasn't horrible.  They gave me some pain killers - On a scale of 1 to 10 I would put the pain at a 4 for a few days.  You will be fine by yourself.  It was sore for about 10 days but I was out and about on day 4.  I probably could have went out sooner if I needed to.  I would definitely take 3 days off work IMO.

It's not bad - I was just a little surprised because people had told me it was nothing.  Well yeah compared to vaginoplasty it's nothing but definitely more than a vasectomy.  There is a lot more cutting going on. 

Definitely worth a few days of discomfort.  Highly recommended  :) 
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Linde

Thank you Dena and Kim.
I am pretty good in recuperation from anesthesia, and I hope I can convince the surgeon to do a local only, because I would like to watch the surgery (professional interest).  I might be able to convince a friend to stay with me through the day.

Kim, I think I might not experience most of those changes, bcause my testes don't produce testosterone for quite a while already.  I have no body hair to start with, and never got adult skin (mine is supposedly softer than he average female skin, because it is the typical pre-puberty skin).  I hope that my breasts will grow a little more, but I think estrogen would help with that.  Emotional wise I was more female than male all my life, but that is part of that intrsex thng of me.

I do it mainly for eliminating the sources of very bad pain, and for the legal stuff like changing identity and gender!

Thank you again ladies for enlighten me about what I have to expect!
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Zoey421

@tgirlamg, @kimoct, @gordong, thanks girls for your suppport. I felt a little weird not dresed en femme and decided to attend a banquet last night wearing jewelry  (bracelet and choker), skinny black jeans and white body suit coverd by a cardigan,  something i would wear most days. Besides being woefully underdressed for the occasion,  I purposely put out some signs to my work colleagues.

Today I get to go back to my normal.

Hugs Zoey xoxoxo
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Zoey421



Quote from: Zoey421 on February 10, 2019, 12:08:57 PM
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Today I get to go back to my normal.


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