It is so ingrained

[AnamethatstartswithE]

So how many trans people does it take to screw in change a light bulb?

One to make the change, and everyone else to tell them to wait a little while longer "just to be sure."




Couldn't resist.

[Devlyn]

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So how many trans people does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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Two, but you need a really big lightbulb. 

[Kirsteneklund7]

Two, but you need a really big lightbulb. 

You need two ->-bleeped-<-s. One to change the actual bulb and the other one to discuss it endlessly on Susans Place ( ha ha ha ha ha)[emoji362][emoji362]

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[KimOct]

   now that's funny - guilty as charged 

[TonyaW]

You need two ->-bleeped-<-s. One to change the actual bulb and the other one to discuss it endlessly on Susans Place ( ha ha ha ha ha)[emoji362][emoji362]

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Pretty sure someone needs to post  pictures also.  I never even once took a selfie before transitioning.

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[Kirsteneklund7]

Pretty sure someone needs to post  pictures also.  I never even once took a selfie before transitioning.

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Get up on a chair, change a lightbulb and send in the photograph !

[HappyMoni]

Kim, with your permission?

I think you all are missing the point here. It only takes one trans person to make a burned out light bulb shine bright again. The hard part is taking the new bulb out of the package (which has been stored in the closet forever.) You have to agonize over changing the bulb for years,  slowly tell all your friends you are changing the bulb, have some people look at you like you are crazy for changing the bulb, go out buy a whole new set of lampshades for the bulb, and then you change the bulb, knowing not all loved ones will see the light from the beautiful new you bulb .

Not sure if this joke makes me laugh or cry.

[TonyaW]

Kim, with your permission?

I think you all are missing the point here. It only takes one trans person to make a burned out light bulb shine bright again. The hard part is taking the new bulb out of the package (which has been stored in the closet forever.) You have to agonize over changing the bulb for years,  slowly tell all your friends you are changing the bulb, have some people look at you like you are crazy for changing the bulb, go out buy a whole new set of lampshades for the bulb, and then you change the bulb, knowing not all loved ones will see the light from the beautiful new you bulb .

Not sure if this joke makes me laugh or cry.

Laugh or cry?

Both or either, depending on how long its been since you made the decision to change the bulb.

I was going to suggest the short answer is just one but it didn't happen unless she puts on a new skirt and posts a selfie with it.

Or a darker take,

We don't. Most of us have been in the closet long enough that we're used to the dark

Yes, sorry Kim if I helped re route your thread in direction you'd rather it didn't go.

I'll stop now.

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[Kirsteneklund7]

Im sorry I didnt mean to derail a most important thread.  Making light of being trans in the wrong way is not such a good idea because I know first hand its not always a light situation - its often quite heavy in fact.

Most of us dont want others walking on eggshells around us but at the same time being fully open with  the people we know and trust & love often does reap the reward of exclusion, disrespect, mistrust and disdain.

It is true it is so ingrained. We as trans can only give so much positive guidance and we carry the burden of being good ambassadors for other trans people. Rising above the discrimination is not always easy.

Hopefully the good example set by many trans individuals living out of the closet lives and educating others is turning the tide.

I know Kim and Moni have passed on more support in this life than they have recieved.

Sorry guys bad jokes are my weakness.

Kirsten.

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[KimOct]

Those were all amazing replies.  I am all about both - making jokes even about tough stuff but also pointing out the injustice in this world.  I write most of the things I do here with those that are struggling and still in the closet in mind.

At the same time I do think it is important to be ambassadors and I make a lot of effort to live as such.  Part of that is being able to laugh at ourselves.  If we are too self righteous and holier than thou that is off putting.

Laughing at ourselves and taking topics seriously can go hand in hand.

Thanks for the great input - both funny and serious. 

I continue to be bothered by how deeply ingrained this is in our society I see it all the time.  But I can usually laugh.
I laughed at my best friend's funeral -  that is the nature of life - laughter and tears.

[Kirsteneklund7]

The irony of it all and the absurd situations we find  ourselves in can be hilarious.

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[randim]

Sorry guys bad jokes are my weakness.

Not much of a weakness.  I am of the opinion life is far too important to take too seriously.

[KimOct]

Not much of a weakness.  I am of the opinion life is far too important to take too seriously.

Eh - I live on both sides.  I think taking things seriously is important to move forward and yet taking EVERYTHING seriously ALL the time is no way to live.  To me a healthy dose of both is a good balance.

[HappyMoni]

Eh - I live on both sides.  I think taking things seriously is important to move forward and yet taking EVERYTHING seriously ALL the time is no way to live.  To me a healthy dose of both is a good balance.

Kim, are you serious? Are you joking? Are you seriously joking? Am I understanding the vast geo-political implications of the questions I just asked? As you can see I am a terminal wise ass. I like to try to lighten a tense mood with humor. Sometimes my attempts at humor go over like a fart in church, but I balance it out by getting passionately upset other times. Life is one giant emotional playground. I am thankful to have had my eyes opened to my emotions through transition. I cried today when Opie was telling Pa about his friend and his Pa didn't believe him. The first 20 times I saw that episode of Andy Griffith, I had no tears I could find. Now I cry and laugh at myself for doing it. Life is good.

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It is true it is so ingrained. We as trans can only give so much positive guidance and we carry the burden of being good ambassadors for other trans people. Rising above the discrimination is not always easy.

Hopefully the good example set by many trans individuals living out of the closet lives and educating others is turning the tide.

I know Kim and Moni have passed on more support in this life than they have recieved.

Sorry guys bad jokes are my weakness.

Kirsten.

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Kirsten, if Kim doesn't care, don't apologize. Your bad jokes are awesome! lol As for support, thank you for the kind words, but I have gotten amazing support from most everyone I know, including Susan's. I am very thankful.

I was really uplifted the other day. An African American friend I have made a Black Lives Matter display.  I didn't look that closely at it until she brought me over to it. It celebrated the values that would or should be positive aspirations for that movement. I was pretty moved when I saw that two of the values mentioned were "Trans Lives Matter" and "Queer Lives Matter." We had previously spoken about the black community having more of a problem with trans folks than some other groups. If she didn't know me, I wonder if that display would have happened. Ya never know when you pick up another ally. This same friend brought me to a play about Jackie Robinson. I saw so many parallels in the treatment of black people and trans folks today. I was moved by the class with which Jackie dealt with some really horrible abuse.

[Kirsteneklund7]

Kim, are you serious? Are you joking? Are you seriously joking? Am I understanding the vast geo-political implications of the questions I just asked? As you can see I am a terminal wise ass. I like to try to lighten a tense mood with humor. Sometimes my attempts at humor go over like a fart in church, but I balance it out by getting passionately upset other times. Life is one giant emotional playground. I am thankful to have had my eyes opened to my emotions through transition. I cried today when Opie was telling Pa about his friend and his Pa didn't believe him. The first 20 times I saw that episode of Andy Griffith, I had no tears I could find. Now I cry and laugh at myself for doing it. Life is good.
Kirsten, if Kim doesn't care, don't apologize. Your bad jokes are awesome! lol As for support, thank you for the kind words, but I have gotten amazing support from most everyone I know, including Susan's. I am very thankful.

I was really uplifted the other day. An African American friend I have made a Black Lives Matter display.  I didn't look that closely at it until she brought me over to it. It celebrated the values that would or should be positive aspirations for that movement. I was pretty moved when I saw that two of the values mentioned were "Trans Lives Matter" and "Queer Lives Matter." We had previously spoken about the black community having more of a problem with trans folks than some other groups. If she didn't know me, I wonder if that display would have happened. Ya never know when you pick up another ally. This same friend brought me to a play about Jackie Robinson. I saw so many parallels in the treatment of black people and trans folks today. I was moved by the class with which Jackie dealt with some really horrible abuse.

Moni - you are like a stream of bats piss.

You shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is darkness[emoji1660]

With love & friendship, Kirsten.

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[KimOct]

Moni and Kirsten - I am thrilled to have you both in my thread.  It's a love fest    Keep the bad jokes and wise words coming.

Bat piss ?? LMAO 

Moni - I love the Black Lives Matter analogy even if a segment of that movement doesn't care for us.  There's no rule you can't be the first to show love to someone else.  I am all about supporting any marginalized group if we don't who will?

[Kirsteneklund7]

Funny how having to deal with being trans forces us to think of others in marginalised groups. Id like to think it opens our eyes and makes us better people.

"How can we see to remove the splinter from our brothers eye when we have a log in our own eye."

Hopefully as trans individuals we dont succumb to judging others as much as the general public does.

Now you mention it Moni the black population often has a natural understanding of LGBTQI not because they are but because they know what it is to be on the outer for no legitimate reason.

If you like emotional playgrounds and black people. I personally have some black mates and like laughing till I cry - have you checked out- Nayyirah Waheed ?

She ticks all the boxes- 1.she's black 2.she's a shiela 3. she's a lesbian 4. she's from Africa 5. she's a dynamite poet.

When I was going through my first 12 months of estrogen HRT in 2016 I developed a craving for poetry.

Nayyirah Waheed's book of poetry " SALT " fed my taste for agony and extacy.

Her words are boiled down to the bare essence and really pack a wallop. It will bring tears. Some of the poetry feels like a silk sledgehammer.

You will enjoy being sliced by her rapier pen.

P.S. I want to hear the odd "went down like fart in church joke" from you too - be nice to me though I might get precious.

Kirsten xx [emoji182]

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[TonyaW]

Moni - you are like a stream of bats piss.

You shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is darkness[emoji1660]

With love & friendship, Kirsten.

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That was one of Shaw's!

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[Kirsteneklund7]

That was one of Shaw's!

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Youre onto it !

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[KimOct]

Funny how having to deal with being trans forces us to think of others in marginalised groups. Id like to think it opens our eyes and makes us better people.

"How can we see to remove the splinter from our brothers eye when we have a log in our own eye."

Hopefully as trans individuals we dont succumb to judging others as much as the general public does.

YES !!