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DEFENDING WOMEN FROM GENDER IDEOLOGY EXTREMISM AND RESTORING BIOLOGICAL TRUTH TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

EXECUTIVE ORDER
January 20, 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, United States Code, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1.  Purpose.  Across the country, ideologues who deny the biological reality of sex have increasingly used legal and other socially coercive means to permit men to self-identify as women and gain access to intimate single-sex spaces and activities designed for women, from women's domestic abuse shelters to women's workplace showers.  This is wrong.  Efforts to eradicate the biological reality of sex fundamentally attack women by depriving them of their dignity, safety, and well-being.  The erasure of sex in language and policy has a corrosive impact not just on women but on the validity of the entire American system.  Basing Federal policy on truth is critical to scientific inquiry, public safety, morale, and trust in government itself.

This unhealthy road is paved by an ongoing and purposeful attack against the ordinary and longstanding use and understanding of biological and scientific terms, replacing the immutable biological reality of sex with an internal, fluid, and subjective sense of self unmoored from biological facts.  Invalidating the true and biological category of "woman" improperly transforms laws and policies designed to protect sex-based opportunities into laws and policies that undermine them, replacing longstanding, cherished legal rights and values with an identity-based, inchoate social concept.

Accordingly, my Administration will defend women's rights and protect freedom of conscience by using clear and accurate language and policies that recognize women are biologically female, and men are biologically male.

Sec. 2.  Policy and Definitions.  It is the policy of the United States to recognize two sexes, male and female.  These sexes are not changeable and are grounded in fundamental and incontrovertible reality.  Under my direction, the Executive Branch will enforce all sex-protective laws to promote this reality, and the following definitions shall govern all Executive interpretation of and application of Federal law and administration policy:

(a)  "Sex" shall refer to an individual's immutable biological classification as either male or female.  "Sex" is not a synonym for and does not include the concept of "gender identity."

(b)  "Women" or "woman" and "girls" or "girl" shall mean adult and juvenile human females, respectively.

(c)  "Men" or "man" and "boys" or "boy" shall mean adult and juvenile human males, respectively.

(d)  "Female" means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

(e)  "Male" means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.

(f)  "Gender ideology" replaces the biological category of sex with an ever-shifting concept of self-assessed gender identity, permitting the false claim that males can identify as and thus become women and vice versa, and requiring all institutions of society to regard this false claim as true.  Gender ideology includes the idea that there is a vast spectrum of genders that are disconnected from one's sex.  Gender ideology is internally inconsistent, in that it diminishes sex as an identifiable or useful category but nevertheless maintains that it is possible for a person to be born in the wrong sexed body.

(g)  "Gender identity" reflects a fully internal and subjective sense of self, disconnected from biological reality and sex and existing on an infinite continuum, that does not provide a meaningful basis for identification and cannot be recognized as a replacement for sex.

Sec. 3.  Recognizing Women Are Biologically Distinct From Men.  (a)  Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall provide to the U.S. Government, external partners, and the public clear guidance expanding on the sex-based definitions set forth in this order.

(b)  Each agency and all Federal employees shall enforce laws governing sex-based rights, protections, opportunities, and accommodations to protect men and women as biologically distinct sexes.  Each agency should therefore give the terms "sex", "male", "female", "men", "women", "boys" and "girls" the meanings set forth in section 2 of this order when interpreting or applying statutes, regulations, or guidance and in all other official agency business, documents, and communications.

(c)  When administering or enforcing sex-based distinctions, every agency and all Federal employees acting in an official capacity on behalf of their agency shall use the term "sex" and not "gender" in all applicable Federal policies and documents.

(d)  The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security, and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management, shall implement changes to require that government-issued identification documents, including passports, visas, and Global Entry cards, accurately reflect the holder's sex, as defined under section 2 of this order; and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management shall ensure that applicable personnel records accurately report Federal employees' sex, as defined by section 2 of this order.

(e)  Agencies shall remove all statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications, or other internal and external messages that promote or otherwise inculcate gender ideology, and shall cease issuing such statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications or other messages.  Agency forms that require an individual's sex shall list male or female, and shall not request gender identity.  Agencies shall take all necessary steps, as permitted by law, to end the Federal funding of gender ideology.

(f)  The prior Administration argued that the Supreme Court's decision in Bostock v. Clayton County (2020), which addressed Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, requires gender identity-based access to single-sex spaces under, for example, Title IX of the Educational Amendments Act.  This position is legally untenable and has harmed women.  The Attorney General shall therefore immediately issue guidance to agencies to correct the misapplication of the Supreme Court's decision in Bostock v. Clayton County (2020) to sex-based distinctions in agency activities.  In addition, the Attorney General shall issue guidance and assist agencies in protecting sex-based distinctions, which are explicitly permitted under Constitutional and statutory precedent.

(g)  Federal funds shall not be used to promote gender ideology.  Each agency shall assess grant conditions and grantee preferences and ensure grant funds do not promote gender ideology.

Sec. 4.  Privacy in Intimate Spaces.  (a)  The Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security shall ensure that males are not detained in women's prisons or housed in women's detention centers, including through amendment, as necessary, of Part 115.41 of title 28, Code of Federal Regulations and interpretation guidance regarding the Americans with Disabilities Act.

(b)  The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development shall prepare and submit for notice and comment rulemaking a policy to rescind the final rule entitled "Equal Access in Accordance with an Individual's Gender Identity in Community Planning and Development Programs" of September 21, 2016, 81 FR 64763, and shall submit for public comment a policy protecting women seeking single-sex rape shelters.

(c)  The Attorney General shall ensure that the Bureau of Prisons revises its policies concerning medical care to be consistent with this order, and shall ensure that no Federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate's appearance to that of the opposite sex.

(d)  Agencies shall effectuate this policy by taking appropriate action to ensure that intimate spaces designated for women, girls, or females (or for men, boys, or males) are designated by sex and not identity.

Sec. 5.  Protecting Rights.  The Attorney General shall issue guidance to ensure the freedom to express the binary nature of sex and the right to single-sex spaces in workplaces and federally funded entities covered by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  In accordance with that guidance, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Labor, the General Counsel and Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and each other agency head with enforcement responsibilities under the Civil Rights Act shall prioritize investigations and litigation to enforce the rights and freedoms identified.

Sec. 6.  Bill Text.  Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs shall present to the President proposed bill text to codify the definitions in this order.

Sec. 7.  Agency Implementation and Reporting.  (a)  Within 120 days of the date of this order, each agency head shall submit an update on implementation of this order to the President, through the Director of the Office of Management and Budget.  That update shall address:

(i)   changes to agency documents, including regulations, guidance, forms, and communications, made to comply with this order; and

(ii)  agency-imposed requirements on federally funded entities, including contractors, to achieve the policy of this order.

(b)  The requirements of this order supersede conflicting provisions in any previous Executive Orders or Presidential Memoranda, including but not limited to Executive Orders 13988 of January 20, 2021, 14004 of January 25, 2021, 14020 and 14021 of March 8, 2021, and 14075 of June 15, 2022.  These Executive Orders are hereby rescinded, and the White House Gender Policy Council established by Executive Order 14020 is dissolved.

(c)  Each agency head shall promptly rescind all guidance documents inconsistent with the requirements of this order or the Attorney General's guidance issued pursuant to this order, or rescind such parts of such documents that are inconsistent in such manner.  Such documents include, but are not limited to:

(i)    "The White House Toolkit on Transgender Equality";

(ii)   the Department of Education's guidance documents including:

(A)  "2024 Title IX Regulations: Pointers for Implementation" (July 2024);

(B)  "U.S. Department of Education Toolkit: Creating Inclusive and Nondiscriminatory School Environments for LGBTQI+ Students";

(C)  "U.S. Department of Education Supporting LGBTQI+ Youth and Families in School" (June 21, 2023);

(D)  "Departamento de Educación de EE.UU.  Apoyar a los jóvenes y familias LGBTQI+ en la escuela" (June 21, 2023);

(E)  "Supporting Intersex Students: A Resource for Students, Families, and Educators" (October 2021);

(F)  "Supporting Transgender Youth in School" (June 2021);

(G)  "Letter to Educators on Title IX's 49th Anniversary" (June 23, 2021);

(H)  "Confronting Anti-LGBTQI+ Harassment in Schools: A Resource for Students and Families" (June 2021);

(I)  "Enforcement of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 With Respect to Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity in Light of Bostock v. Clayton County" (June 22, 2021);

(J)  "Education in a Pandemic: The Disparate Impacts of COVID-19 on America's Students" (June 9, 2021); and

(K)  "Back-to-School Message for Transgender Students from the U.S. Depts of Justice, Education, and HHS" (Aug. 17, 2021);

(iii)  the Attorney General's Memorandum of March 26, 2021 entitled "Application of Bostock v. Clayton County to Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972″; and

(iv)  the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission's "Enforcement Guidance on Harassment in the Workplace" (April 29, 2024).

Sec. 8.  General Provisions.  (a)  Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i)    the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii)   the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b)  This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c)  This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

(d)  If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

January 20, 2025.


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This makes me worried about the fact that I have not applied for social security yet...(Wanted to get to 70 first)

The reason being the spousal benefit for my spouse, which would be significantly more than her own, and we are planning on it ... To apply for a spousal benefit, she needs to tell them:
QuoteWhether you are currently married and, if so, your spouse's name, date of birth (or age) and Social Security number (if known).
The dates and places of each of your marriages ( The date was WAY before legal same sex marriages)
And they can ask her to submit our marriage certificate with my old name/sex

My Birth certificate , SS and my passport (and of course REAL ID Driver's License) has me as Female and Karen...


But what happens when she submits the all that for spousal benefit (not applying would make retirement harder)?

Could the final result be :
1) for all federal purposes I "become" male (What would that mean for RealID DL)
2) Things go smoothly without issue

With Trump wanting to get rid of career government employees, I think the odds of things going smoothly are not great...

I wish I was a year older...

- Karen


Sarah B

Hi Everyone

The following are my thoughts on the matter and provide a way forward.  One only has to search the internet to find out what various organizations are going to do to fight these Executive Orders.



Legal and Procedural Challenges to the Executive Order

Introduction

The Executive Order issued by Donald J. Trump imposes restrictive definitions of sex, excludes recognition of gender identity, and mandates policies that harm transgender individuals. These provisions raise significant legal and procedural concerns, which can be challenged as follows:

Conflation of Gender Identity with Biological Sex
The EO defines sex as immutable and biologically determined, excluding gender identity. This narrow interpretation creates conflicts with established legal protections:

  • Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (Employment Protections):
  • The Supreme Court's decision in Bostock v. Clayton County (2020) held that discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation constitutes sex discrimination. By excluding gender identity from its definition of sex, the EO violates this precedent in employment-related policies.
  • Title IX of the Education Amendments (Education Protections):
  • Title IX prohibits sex-based discrimination in federally funded educational programs. Courts have interpreted this to include gender identity, meaning policies that deny transgender students access to facilities and programs aligned with their identity violate Title IX.
  • Equal Protection Clause (Fourteenth Amendment):
  • The EO's exclusion of gender identity creates unequal treatment for transgender individuals, subjecting them to heightened risks of discrimination. Courts may find this violates the Equal Protection Clause, which requires policies based on sex classifications to pass heightened scrutiny.
  • Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA):
  • Recent rulings (e.g., Williams v. Kincaid, 2022) recognize gender dysphoria as a disability. The EO's prohibition on gender-affirming care in federal prisons could violate the ADA by denying necessary medical care.
  • Affordable Care Act (ACA, Section 1557):
  • Section 1557 prohibits sex-based discrimination in healthcare programs receiving federal funding. By denying gender-affirming care, the EO violates protections extended to transgender individuals.

Procedural Violations and Administrative Overreach
The EO mandates sweeping changes to federal policies without proper justification or adherence to legal frameworks:

Administrative Procedure Act (APA):
The APA requires federal actions to be evidence-based and not arbitrary. The EO fails to justify its policy changes with evidence, ignores the harms to affected populations, and contradicts existing legal precedents like Bostock. Agencies implementing the EO without public notice or comment may also violate APA procedures.

Overreach of Executive Authority:
The EO overrides judicially supported interpretations of federal laws, such as Title VII and Title IX, and rescinds prior executive orders without sufficient authority. The president lacks unilateral power to redefine "sex" in ways that conflict with statutory and constitutional interpretations.

Harm to Vulnerable Populations
The EO disproportionately impacts transgender individuals, creating risks of harm that courts may find unacceptable:

Increased Vulnerability in Single-Sex Spaces:
By mandating that access to shelters, prisons, and other spaces be based on biological sex, the EO exposes transgender individuals to heightened risks of violence and harassment.

Denial of Healthcare:
Prohibiting gender-affirming care in federal prisons or federally funded programs exacerbates mental and physical health risks for transgender individuals, potentially violating constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment (Eighth Amendment).

Education and Workplace Discrimination:
By rescinding policies that protect gender identity, the EO enables discriminatory practices in schools, workplaces, and federally funded programs.

First Amendment and Free Speech Concerns
The EO prohibits the use of terms like "gender identity" and mandates binary language in federal communications:

Compelled Speech:
Federal employees, educators, and healthcare providers may be forced to misgender individuals, infringing on their free speech rights.

Restrictions on Expression:
Banning references to gender identity suppresses open discussion and expression, potentially violating First Amendment protections.

Conflict with State Laws and Protections
Many states have enacted laws protecting gender identity in employment, education, healthcare, and public accommodations:

Federal vs State Laws:
The EO's mandates conflict with stronger state protections, creating legal challenges over federal preemption. States and municipalities could argue that the EO unlawfully undermines their policies.

Broader Legal and Policy Implications
International Human Rights Commitments:
The EO's restrictions on transgender rights conflict with the U.S.'s endorsement of international human rights standards, such as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

Public Health and Safety:
Policies that deny recognition or care for transgender individuals increase risks of harm, suicide, and discrimination, contradicting public health goals and guidelines from organizations like the American Medical Association.

Legal Strategies for Challenge
  • Litigation Against Federal Agencies: Lawsuits can target specific provisions of the EO that violate statutory or constitutional rights.
  • Injunctions: Immediate injunctions can prevent implementation of harmful policies while legal challenges proceed.
  • Coalition Lawsuits: Advocacy groups, states, and impacted individuals can jointly sue to challenge the EO's legality.
  • Amicus Briefs: Medical, educational, and human rights organizations can provide expert opinions on the harms caused by the EO.

Conclusion
The Executive Order's conflation of gender identity with biological sex, combined with its broader procedural and constitutional issues, provides multiple grounds for legal challenges. By violating established legal protections, procedural norms, and constitutional rights, the EO imposes harm that courts and advocacy groups can contest. Through litigation and advocacy, these policies can be overturned to ensure protections for transgender individuals and broader gender diversity.


Regardless of your political views, these Executive Orders and laws if they are passed will be overturned when the democrats return to power.

Stay safe

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Quote from: Sarah B on January 20, 2025, 10:59:46 PMHi Everyone

The following are my thoughts on the matter and provide a way forward.  One only has to search the internet to find out what various organizations are going to do to fight these Executive Orders.



Legal and Procedural Challenges to the Executive Order

Introduction

The Executive Order issued by Donald J. Trump imposes restrictive definitions of sex, excludes recognition of gender identity, and mandates policies that harm transgender individuals. These provisions raise significant legal and procedural concerns, which can be challenged as follows:

Conflation of Gender Identity with Biological Sex
The EO defines sex as immutable and biologically determined, excluding gender identity. This narrow interpretation creates conflicts with established legal protections:

  • Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (Employment Protections):
  • The Supreme Court's decision in Bostock v. Clayton County (2020) held that discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation constitutes sex discrimination. By excluding gender identity from its definition of sex, the EO violates this precedent in employment-related policies.
  • Title IX of the Education Amendments (Education Protections):
  • Title IX prohibits sex-based discrimination in federally funded educational programs. Courts have interpreted this to include gender identity, meaning policies that deny transgender students access to facilities and programs aligned with their identity violate Title IX.
  • Equal Protection Clause (Fourteenth Amendment):
  • The EO's exclusion of gender identity creates unequal treatment for transgender individuals, subjecting them to heightened risks of discrimination. Courts may find this violates the Equal Protection Clause, which requires policies based on sex classifications to pass heightened scrutiny.
  • Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA):
  • Recent rulings (e.g., Williams v. Kincaid, 2022) recognize gender dysphoria as a disability. The EO's prohibition on gender-affirming care in federal prisons could violate the ADA by denying necessary medical care.
  • Affordable Care Act (ACA, Section 1557):
  • Section 1557 prohibits sex-based discrimination in healthcare programs receiving federal funding. By denying gender-affirming care, the EO violates protections extended to transgender individuals.

Procedural Violations and Administrative Overreach
The EO mandates sweeping changes to federal policies without proper justification or adherence to legal frameworks:

Administrative Procedure Act (APA):
The APA requires federal actions to be evidence-based and not arbitrary. The EO fails to justify its policy changes with evidence, ignores the harms to affected populations, and contradicts existing legal precedents like Bostock. Agencies implementing the EO without public notice or comment may also violate APA procedures.

Overreach of Executive Authority:
The EO overrides judicially supported interpretations of federal laws, such as Title VII and Title IX, and rescinds prior executive orders without sufficient authority. The president lacks unilateral power to redefine "sex" in ways that conflict with statutory and constitutional interpretations.

Harm to Vulnerable Populations
The EO disproportionately impacts transgender individuals, creating risks of harm that courts may find unacceptable:

Increased Vulnerability in Single-Sex Spaces:
By mandating that access to shelters, prisons, and other spaces be based on biological sex, the EO exposes transgender individuals to heightened risks of violence and harassment.

Denial of Healthcare:
Prohibiting gender-affirming care in federal prisons or federally funded programs exacerbates mental and physical health risks for transgender individuals, potentially violating constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment (Eighth Amendment).

Education and Workplace Discrimination:
By rescinding policies that protect gender identity, the EO enables discriminatory practices in schools, workplaces, and federally funded programs.

First Amendment and Free Speech Concerns
The EO prohibits the use of terms like "gender identity" and mandates binary language in federal communications:

Compelled Speech:
Federal employees, educators, and healthcare providers may be forced to misgender individuals, infringing on their free speech rights.

Restrictions on Expression:
Banning references to gender identity suppresses open discussion and expression, potentially violating First Amendment protections.

Conflict with State Laws and Protections
Many states have enacted laws protecting gender identity in employment, education, healthcare, and public accommodations:

Federal vs State Laws:
The EO's mandates conflict with stronger state protections, creating legal challenges over federal preemption. States and municipalities could argue that the EO unlawfully undermines their policies.

Broader Legal and Policy Implications
International Human Rights Commitments:
The EO's restrictions on transgender rights conflict with the U.S.'s endorsement of international human rights standards, such as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

Public Health and Safety:
Policies that deny recognition or care for transgender individuals increase risks of harm, suicide, and discrimination, contradicting public health goals and guidelines from organizations like the American Medical Association.

Legal Strategies for Challenge
  • Litigation Against Federal Agencies: Lawsuits can target specific provisions of the EO that violate statutory or constitutional rights.
  • Injunctions: Immediate injunctions can prevent implementation of harmful policies while legal challenges proceed.
  • Coalition Lawsuits: Advocacy groups, states, and impacted individuals can jointly sue to challenge the EO's legality.
  • Amicus Briefs: Medical, educational, and human rights organizations can provide expert opinions on the harms caused by the EO.

Conclusion
The Executive Order's conflation of gender identity with biological sex, combined with its broader procedural and constitutional issues, provides multiple grounds for legal challenges. By violating established legal protections, procedural norms, and constitutional rights, the EO imposes harm that courts and advocacy groups can contest. Through litigation and advocacy, these policies can be overturned to ensure protections for transgender individuals and broader gender diversity.


Regardless of your political views, these Executive Orders and laws if they are passed will be overturned when the democrats return to power.

Stay safe

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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I wish a lawyer or even better a fully capable law firm would take this matter to trial and wishfully het it struck down in court.

BlueJaye

The executive order does not explain how those of us who were born with organs producing both gametes should be classified. That alone should be grounds to have this rescinded. Sex is not binary, and that is a biological fact which no policy can change.

Sephirah

The thing that bothers me most with this is... it's one sided. As all laws made by dudes in suits pandering to other dudes is one sided. It's always trans women who face the loaded guns. It's always "women" who need to be protected from "men".

Which denotes a fundamental misunderstanding of what being trans is. You hear almost nothing in any of this of trans guys. Like the people pulling the strings consider them a non-entity or something. That irks me the most. It's always done from the perspective of "yeah it's just pervy guys wanting to perv on women's spaces." It's like trans guys don't even count. Not even considering non-binary and intersex folks. It's always approached from the "I'm a man so I see anyone I consider a man encroaching on women's spaces as being lecherous. So I'mma try and be popular and appeal to the majority."

And most outspoken cis women do this, too. It's very aggravating. The title of this basically outlines this fact. And it boils down to why so-called "alpha males" can understand why women would want to be men, but can't understand why men would want to be women. Which is horribly sexist, misogynistic and egotistical.
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Quote from: Sephirah on January 21, 2025, 05:31:44 PMThe thing that bothers me most with this is... it's one sided. As all laws made by dudes in suits pandering to other dudes is one sided. It's always trans women who face the loaded guns. It's always "women" who need to be protected from "men".

Which denotes a fundamental misunderstanding of what being trans is. You hear almost nothing in any of this of trans guys. Like the people pulling the strings consider them a non-entity or something. That irks me the most. It's always done from the perspective of "yeah it's just pervy guys wanting to perv on women's spaces." It's like trans guys don't even count. Not even considering non-binary and intersex folks. It's always approached from the "I'm a man so I see anyone I consider a man encroaching on women's spaces as being lecherous. So I'mma try and be popular and appeal to the majority."

And most outspoken cis women do this, too. It's very aggravating. The title of this basically outlines this fact.

Because if we pass they think I'd do her. Then they find out if they are even told and go I was manipulated or I was tricked. It all boils down to the male ego screaming I'M NOT GAY!
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Quote from: NatalieRene on January 21, 2025, 05:38:14 PMBecause if we pass they think I'd do her. Then they find out if they are even told and go I was manipulated or I was tricked. It all boils down to the male ego screaming I'M NOT GAY!

You likely have a point. There are a lot of people who think with the head that doesn't have a brain, no matter how small.
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(d)  "Female" means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

(e)  "Male" means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.


It's been pointed out elsewhere that embryos develop female sex organs first, and male sex organs don't begin to develop and replace them until 6 weeks of gestation.  So a literal reading of this would make everyone in the US female.

(That's not even the only thing wrong with just these two lines.)

...

On the passport thing:  I've seen a legal analyst point out that there's going to be at least a 60-day comment period before any of this becomes policy.  Meanwhile, the State Department has been working overtime to process as many passport applications as possible before the change goes through.  I got notified at about 8:15 PM on a Tuesday that they had begun to process mine (they received it by mail on Friday).

So if you apply or renew IMMEDIATELY and pay extra to have it expedited, there is a good chance that you will get your chosen gender marker on your passport / passport card.

(However, I also read that there have been unconfirmed reports of supporting documents for gender marker change requests being illegally destroyed, and ACLU is investigating it.)

It's also been confirmed (both by a legal analyst and the White House press secretary) that the change does not retroactively invalidate passports after they are issued.  Passports are good for 10 years, so the policy can be revised again within the next two presidential terms.

Allie Jayne

This term 'Gender Ideology' so often used by conservatives indicates that they do not believe trans people are legitimate. This has been the case for many years, and the current situation is why I have pushed for a robust description of Transgender to establish our legitimacy. I believe we will have to endure this persecution until we legitimise our existence. I know, in a perfect world we shouldn't have to, but it should be plainly obvious we are far from that utopia.

MAGA assertions are clearly flawed and need to be challenged, but I fear we just don't yet have the arguments to succeed.

Hugs,

Allie

ChrissyRyan

Quote from: Allie Jayne on January 23, 2025, 06:15:29 PMThis term 'Gender Ideology' so often used by conservatives indicates that they do not believe trans people are legitimate. This has been the case for many years, and the current situation is why I have pushed for a robust description of Transgender to establish our legitimacy. I believe we will have to endure this persecution until we legitimise our existence. I know, in a perfect world we shouldn't have to, but it should be plainly obvious we are far from that utopia.

MAGA assertions are clearly flawed and need to be challenged, but I fear we just don't yet have the arguments to succeed.

Hugs,

Allie


Yes, many do not believe that trans people are legitimate.  They may say and think something like, "It is common sense that boys are boys and girls are girls.  For anyone to make a switch from their birth sex is unnatural and unacceptable, a mental issue, and wrong."

Please remember that I did not say nor think like the above.
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Quote from: foosnark on January 23, 2025, 05:25:38 PMOn the passport thing:  I've seen a legal analyst point out that there's going to be at least a 60-day comment period before any of this becomes policy.  Meanwhile, the State Department has been working overtime to process as many passport applications as possible before the change goes through.  I got notified at about 8:15 PM on a Tuesday that they had begun to process mine (they received it by mail on Friday).

So if you apply or renew IMMEDIATELY and pay extra to have it expedited, there is a good chance that you will get your chosen gender marker on your passport / passport card.

Well, apparently Marco Rubio has instructed State Department employees to immediately put all applications with X markers on hold. 

I don't know if that's actually permissible at this time, and I don't know if they're actually going to do that.  It will interfere with some peoples' travel plans.  I don't have such plans but I did pay extra to expedite, so if they do this they've essentially stolen from me.

I do note that they have not yet updated the application form.


Quote from: Allie Jayne on January 23, 2025, 06:15:29 PMThis term 'Gender Ideology' so often used by conservatives indicates that they do not believe trans people are legitimate.

Yes, they've definitely been describing it as "ideology," and also using the term "transgenderism" in a attempt to make it seem illegitimate.  (The book Who's Afraid of Gender by Judith Butler covers their tactics quite well, the way they have created a "phantasm" out of gender theory.  (The style of the book is pretty academic but I still found it a difficult read emotionally.)


In pretending that gender isn't real or is the same thing as sex assigned at birth, and can only be binary, they are:

(A) obviously, disrespecting all trans people
(B) also pretending that intersex people don't exist
(C) ignoring that the absolute gender binary is a cultural feature/bug, not intrinsic to humanity.  Many great civilizations had (or still have) more than two genders and/or were accepting of trans people.  The ancient Mesopotamians and Egyptians and Hebrews, the iron age Scythians (who extracted estrogen from mares' urine and used it for HRT), precolonial America and several peoples in Polynesia and southeast Asia and Africa...


In trying to justify this as protecting women, they are putting women at greater risk as well as completely forgetting that trans men exist.  Nobody in their right mind would force my brother, who practically looks like Paul Bunyan, to use a women's restroom to make cis women feel safer, but that's exactly what their laws would do.

And there is not even the flimsiest possible non-fact-based justification in discriminating against nonbinary people "to protect women."

And in trying to justify this as somehow defending "biological truth" they have merely proven they don't understand biology or care about truth.

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We saw this coming with the women's sports bans. They label anyone under 18 as "children" and then make accusations about how "children" are being "groomed" by pedophiles. How "children" are being "mutilated". Etc. etc.

Nobody wants children getting hurt, so the lies resonate with people with less brain power. It doesn't matter that gender-affirming care never happens with "children". There is no evidence that anyone under the age of 12 was ever given puberty blockers or hormones. Between the ages of 12 - 17, the cases of surgery are minuscule and are the same surgeries provided to cis-gender "children".

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Michelle_K

Children are being mutilated. Only they say it is ok because it is circumcision. They use the data of circumcision to prove transgender are mutilating children.