Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?

[RebeccaFog]

I agree with the Virgin Marie         

[Ell]

Calm, Collective.

i also am part of the Collective. Resistance is futile.

[Shana A]

A great mind is androgynous. It is when this fusion takes place that the mind is fully fertilized and uses all of its facilities. The androgynous mind is resonant and porous; it transmits emotion without impediment.

l'll translate Virginias words:

"It is when this car crash takes place that mind is full of ->-bleeped-<- and likes to play with itself. The androgynous mind is a bit shakey and full of holes; it leaks things as there are no walls." 

LOL, I like your translation Nicky! 

Z

[Eva Marie]

I have a theory . . .

Apparently others agree with you too

A great mind is androgynous. It is when this fusion takes place that the mind is fully fertilized and uses all of its facilities. The androgynous mind is resonant and porous; it transmits emotion without impediment.

I wonder what kind of fertilizer was used? 

[Shana A]

I wonder what kind of fertilizer was used? 

From the guard sheep 

Z

[Eva Marie]

I wonder what kind of fertilizer was used? 

From the guard sheep 

Z

Well, they certainly have plenty of it 

[noeleena]

hi... mild .... not a fighter .not  angry . do get frustrated . even when provoked . . yet some times been worked up .  i think as you get older you see theres no point  to that . you just do your sellf harm ...so ill walk away . even when bullied at school . yet i was strong enough to hit.   once to get respect . i only ever did that once at school . he never tryed it again . so is it a part of us as people or do we have that part of us that makes us different as andro . i know being this way we see things from both sides . & have a understanding that most people dont on an other forum i tryed to explane to them i think both as male & female . i have not meet any others like my self . so can you tell me how i explane this part of us how we see our selfs how we think & may be do things i dont allways get the words right so thats part of my problem plus dyslicsa i know how i am wired just getting the right words to explane whats in side . thats frustrating for me .
     ...noeleena...

[RebeccaFog]

Hi Noeleena,

   One argument you might make is that every mind contains masculine and feminine traits.  For most people, one trait is much greater than the other.  For us, there is more of an equality in these traits.  At times, one trait overwhelms the other and, at other times, both traits are equal, and there are times when each trait cancels each other out.
   It is different per individual.  For each person, it is different at different times.

   Tell them you are gifted.

   I know I didn't account for every circumstance and I am not speaking for everyone.  This is my own thought at this time. We are each an individual and so you will need to apply your own perspective to your explanation.

Just a thought.  Someone else may have a better way of saying it.

[noeleena]

hi.. thank you Rebis .     some interesting points i dont think they like the idear of having that male & female triats let alone any thing female or are some hidding as we know behind their mums skirts .    he he i have had that one .  or some of my other friends no understanding at all
   gifted yes . oh dear at 14  or so yea that would work at 61 . oh heck .
    you know what our grand kid would  know & does know more about me at 6 than many people what its like for me being both . too close to the detail going on or would that be just accepts me yea ... . thanks
   ...noeleena...

[RebeccaFog]

Well, Pica has a theory that our gender growth kind of stops early in life.  Sometimes we use the word 'pregendered'.  I believe the idea is that we are sort of stuck at about the age of your grandchild, more or less.  Maybe that would work as an explanation. 

You can say that the part of your mind that handles gender is stuck at the level of a young child.

That's what I've been saying. In fact, I don't know why I didn't write this earlier.

I probably didn't say it too well, either.

[noeleena]

hi...Rebis well thats right on .  never thought of that . yet thats so right stuck in my tracks not going any where  . for me it would have been age 10 . i knew yet that door was locked . i  know this has been the case in my life for 40 years ..many doors have beeb shut . 11 years ago that all changed for me . just so much has been changed . it certainlly has made a big difference to how i do things & see things .
    thats not to say every thing in my life has been a total loss  there are many nice things . still thats life ...
     I have strggeled in many ways .  ill say it this  way i would not wont to go back to most of that part of me as a male , the female . or women side of me is so much better . yet i still retain the male ness . well some of it .
     how do you find it trying to balance it knowing you can not run from this part of your life yet allowing the women or female to  come to the front . not so much with other people just with in your self . i dont get this from the other trans . they just wont to be females yet a lot are just so male .
    i find it hard going back in to the male world if you like . having hated most of it . funny as it is i am getting better at acceopting ((( males )))
     well you know the ones i mean t v c d t s . i am not saying any thing aganst them i really do get on well with them . it was just me . hated being around males . full stop ...  just 40 years of trying . knowing it was not working .
      as i am going through this i am thinking . hey . this sounds like a t s ...... i am not i never was or will be .. heck ......    i have thought about this 3 rd gender side of it how do think on that . i have thought about it just not sure   yet ... oh well time to stop . ill catch ya
     ...noeleena...

[Jaimey]

That's what I've been saying. In fact, I don't know why I didn't write this earlier.

I probably didn't say it too well, either.

Or are the unicorns just not listening well?  Most of us do live in lala-land, after all. 

I've totally heard you say that before.  In fact, I think we've had discussions about it.

[RebeccaFog]

I've been writing when I'm tired and unfocused. Plus, I've been trying to be serious but it's bringing me down.

     how do you find it trying to balance it knowing you can not run from this part of your life yet allowing the women or female to  come to the front . not so much with other people just with in your self ....

[comment was edited for specificity in my replay - rebis]
 
    i find it hard going back in to the male world if you like . having hated most of it . funny as it is i am getting better at acceopting ((( males )))

     ...noeleena...

   Everybody probably finds their balance in different ways.  In my case, I've done it within my mind and my soul.  You can't tell from looking at me.

   I hated being around men for a long time, but I'm okay with that now that I know who i am better than I did before.

[Pica Pica]

.  In my case, I've done it within my mind and my soul. 

and what is more important than that?

[RebeccaFog]

Nothing.  It works fab for me.

[noeleena]

hi... hey. self acceptance first . then what knowing who you are . not the knowing what you are . one part is or was being a loner no socail skills, how to interact with people . not a hope & never being shown my lose when young .that took me a long time to even know what that was about let alone learn a lot of things you dont know.  about school yea right . i was a dead loss till the last 2 years then was 2 nd to top . things i could do to compensate for  my loss . so its not easy being young . then on top of that being the way we are .
   how long did it take you Pica . what trggered it for . you what about your mum & dad school you know just life i spos . not so easy or just plane hard work ... or not knowing . yet knowing something . or..  he he..  hey some one comes up to you & tells you.   you are this .... yea right .. not likely ... yet i have had two people who knew i was different & i knew one women from the 60.s she knew . oh heck she told me last year . when i came out on t v in new zealand . so yea we get there just so hard in the mean time .
..... see ya
.....noeleena...

[RebeccaFog]

Is New Zealand as beautiful as all the pictures?

[Nicky]

Even better.

You came out on TV Noeleena?

[Kinkly]

Or are the unicorns just not listening well?  Most of us do live in lala-land, after all. 

I wish I lived in the enchated forest of La La Land with others like me.
but (sing to the tune of materal girl - madona)
I am living in a binary World,
and I am an analog gurl
if it is possible to transport me to la la land please do I'll see you @ candy mountian

[noeleena]

    hi... Rebis .  oh yes it is . we are not a big county yet we have all we need . we live in waimate the south isl . we are 2 1 / 2 hours drive south of ch ch ..   christchurch . i was born in invercargill at the bottom of the south isl    its about 215 miles south of us . blenheim is in the north is about 320 miles from us over all its about 500 miles  long . all of n z is about 1200 miles long & about  100 to 156  miles wide . we have a very changeable weather patterns in the main its nice the west coast its warmer .. ,
   now Jos & i with our kids have lived & worked over most of the south isl so we know it quite well . its a good place to bring kids up & live . & yes we are not imune to things happening much like any where . theres plenty to do like sports fishing shooting & the like , people in the main are very accepting so its good from that point of veiw our costs are not unberable yet could be a bit lower.  over all its good .
   we have some neat scenery. i like doing camara work like land scapes. so theres plenty to do we have under 3500 people were we live we have lived in & arouind here ove 16 years now so looks like we may  stay our nearst towns are timaru & oamaru 38.000  & about 15.000 people in those towns . any way just a idear of where we are . 
       oh yea just 1800 miles from oz.e yes i have been over & met up with a lot of trans girls so that was neat some i talk to on our forums ,
      ...noeleena...
Post Merge: January 27, 2009, 12:29:27 AM
hi ...Nicky.. yes i did on our two n z channels cambell live & close up . in june 07 after i came back from phuket . yea it was good even our son was interviewed . i had two for that showing the two papers as well plus the net . the last one i did was for the timaru herald  one of our papers look it up you may find it other wise use my name on google .
     yes i was asked if i would do this . it was done in a nice way so i could tell & let people know i was a transfemale  . & living as a women so yes my stoy has been told arouind the world . before 11 years ago i would have run as far away as i could if i had been asked to do some thing like this it would have been .   no way...
     yet i knew i was going to go on air & do the interviews . well it opened doors for me.  tell & stand in front of 100.s of people . so yes i went with it . try being in front of over 3 million people   he he ....yea . so i can now stand in front of people & talk . so yea its all been good...the male side of me . it would not have happened .. so the change for & in me as a women . oh dear just so much different . . i dont expect others to do or come with me . this was some thing i could do . any way thank you for asking that was nice of you .
     ...noeleena....