Do you think I'm intersexed?

[siouxsie]

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

There is a word for that, it's called transorexia.  Eat a cheeseburger already!

[Jordan]

Krista,
    One thing I have found with some, not all mind you, but some TS' is the wish or hope they are more than TS and they try to find things to prove they are IS. Some may very well be, while others probably not. I am IS. I did not seek to be. I thought I was TS. But a lot of things did not add up for me. Firstly, as I read posts after posts written by TS' here I noticed the things they were feeling and writing about I wasn't experiencing even remotely. The more I read the more I still felt different but didn't know why. Secondly, the physical side of it. I am what some girls jokingly call IS to the extreme. I have a partial opening behind my sack area (partial in that it only goes so deep but is closed on the inside so nothing goes right inside me. I can get most of a normal size vibrator inside but not all the way and it is sensitive inside the area I can use. I have a clitoral area on my shaft just above that area. When my wife is intimate in this area (both the 'vagina' and 'clitoris' or just one or the other) I explode like I never exploded before when using the penis. I actually have 2 types of orgasm - I can feel one inside (and a little does flow to my head to discharge) and the one I should have for my birth gender. The inside one (female type orgasm is the one that most satisfies me). When my wife and I felt I was TS I started my transition with her blessing. All of a sudden my breasts developed and my voice pitched. But most of all this cramping I always got before seemed to be worse. It was the cramps we booked an appointment with my MD for since we didn't yet understand me. He commented about my breast devlopment and voice. He thought about it and sent me for a saliva test, blood work, x-rays and an MRI. The tests came back and blew our minds to say the least. Please don't ask me to quote all the medical jargon they and a lot of sites on ISism and some people here refer to because that would be like asking me to talk a foreign language. What I can tell you is the main points he emphasized - high estrogen, nil androgen ( and yes even he felt my kids are lil miracles in that I don't really have enough androgen- and yes they are mine (God does wonders)), I actually have a healthy uterus, one testi and one ovary, meaning my cramps are a true period ( I have other symptoms too with the cramps),lactose organs etc. As a matter of fact he told us if my vagina devloped properly (opened all the way inside instead of just part way) I would have a 78% chance of successful child rearing. My chances are this low due to the little bit of male parts I was given. As I stated, this was not something I asked for, I was settling into transition as a TS. But now at least all my mysteries about my body and mind over the years are answered and I am happier with it.
   In my opinion, until you get your medical testing done sometime then I wouldn't dwell overly much on it. Just focus on your self and your transition until the day comes to be tested. I was lucky my MD did the tests as I live in a part of Canada where minds are conservative-you are either male or female and no in between. Anything in between is a freak and deserves what he or she gets (beat up, humiliated etc). Good luck.
                                        Kim   

You know that really is true...  My opinion is just go get tested for it... Dont dwell on it. Well said hear hear.

And I am not transorex I could out eat any one on the forums any day, and I do eat just about my weight in food every minute.

thank you

[shanetastic]

We just have an uber fast metabolism duhhh!!!

I eat the world daily and people just stare at me in shock when they see how often I eat lol.  Yet people still seem to harass me because I don't weigh anything. . . to them

[siouxsie]

And I am not transorex I could out eat any one on the forums any day, and I do eat just about my weight in food every minute.

thank you

Seriously, 6' 115 lbs. is extremely thin.  If you have the bone density of a bio-male, even more so.  Even the 6 feet+ supermodels weigh more than that.  I'm not trying to harass you or anyone else, but in my opinion either you are lying or your health is in jeopardy.  If this is really the case, I urge you to seek help immediately.

 

[Kim]

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

Somehow this topic seems to have turned towards this instead of Krista. It happens. Only thing I can say to this weight thing is Mara could be the hide and seek champion-just turn sideways and nobody will see you!!LOL  - at least that's what people tell me (I'm 130 somehow because I am tiny)

[shanetastic]

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

Somehow this topic seems to have turned towards this instead of Krista. It happens. Only thing I can say to this weight thing is Mara could be the hide and seek champion-just turn sideways and nobody will see you!!LOL  - at least that's what people tell me (I'm 130 somehow because I am tiny)

lololol.

Back on topic!!!  Get it checked out Krista!  By the time were down talking about weight you'll have your answer

[Cortana]

Wow, looks like thier been lots of activity lately! I had better get posting.

Hi Krista. Ya it is an interesting subject. I try to keep track of the new stuff that the members come up with,  Never know when it could be useful information one can pass on to another, plus I am a nosy bitch anyway.  I know one of the girls here that would most likely know quite a lot more about IS then I. Last I was sharing with her, she showed the symptoms of being IS as well but I don't really know what the results of the latest tests was. Anyway her name is Natalie, she has the cross bones and scull pirates flag for an Avatar.

Cindy 

Thanks for the info and the tip Cindy.

You know for what you mentioned about yourself, physically, it sounds a lot like what I look like... the only reason my waist and hips are so large are because I'm a little over weight, about 38 pounds actualy, If I lost that weight I'd have probably anywhere from 37-38 inch hips and my waist would more then likely be close to if not dead on 26-25 inches, my neck is also actually 13 inches... exactly, Lol, now the facial and body hair I do have... in never got very coarse or thick thick but it was there... it's now mostly goe though andmy facial hair is starting to go.

Yeah but it helps to have an ovary... not to mention I don't think that the ueterus secretes any type of hormone that would make the substantial changes that I've experienced.

Personally I just want to know if there would be a possiblility of this as I really want to know what might be going on. Wink

Also, sorry about the name thing.

Well, my hips are tiny for my frame, wether boy or girl. I'm too skinny, I wish I'd gain a bit of weight.

My mother is about 34 inch bust, 28 inch waist and 37 inch hips and 5'2", she's far from fat though. She's just not skinny the same way I am. And four pregnancies must have played a number on her.

I haven't been able to do anything about facial hair, like electrolysis, due to being short on cash. It's not all that thick, but its still annoying.

As far as I know I have two testes, both functional, and look the way I do anyway (which suggests a lower-than-normal response to it, substantially when compared to three younger brothers).

19.1 nmol/L on a 10-30 nmol/L scale (male range) testosterone total, pre-HRT. I started hormones at 23 years 9 months old.

For an example of what I looked at when 16:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a213/Sara_Zeal/Sara1998.jpg

I wish I had a better shot than this. It's my only pic when I was 16, that I have online...there might be others elsewhere I guess. I didn't take pics of myself before I was 24.

and right before HRT at 23 years, 7 months old:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a213/Sara_Zeal/Sara.jpg

I really was unsure about my image back then (and had very few clothes).

As for the name, don't worry, it's fine.

Wow, your pretty much a small as I am. Lol.

Hi dearest Schala

Give the hormones time to do their job Schala hon, and I'll guarantee you you will get some good results. The hormones change a lot of stuff both inside as well as on the outside. You come out the other end you won't even recognise what you were before. It did me and I'm an old bat. I love all the changes I have gone through. Did you know I learned how to love again. Most of my feeling were pretty well dead when I sobered up twenty one years ago. I was to frightened, back then to even trust another person.

It was the hormones and Wing Walker who showed me how to trust and love. Love is a very intense feeling. Did you try the protein drink? the powder type.

Have yourself a wonderful day.

Cindy 

Lol, this is not directed towards me but I thought I'd say something about it anyway.

For instance, the Intersex Society of North America (ISNA) definition states that the following conditions "sometimes involve intersex anatomy":[20]

    * 5-alpha reductase deficiency
    * androgen insensitivity syndrome
    * aphallia
    * clitoromegaly
    * congenital adrenal hyperplasia
    * gonadal dysgenesis (partial & complete)
    * hypospadias
    * Klinefelter syndrome
    * micropenis
    * mosaicism involving sex chromosomes
    * MRKH (mullerian agenesis; vaginal agenesis; congenital absence of vagina)
    * ovo-testes (formerly called "true hermaphroditism")
    * partial androgen insensitivity syndrome
    * progestin induced virilization
    * Swyer syndrome
    * Turner syndrome

Some people with some of these conditions (such as Kallmann syndrome and Turner syndrome) do not self-identify as intersex.[citation needed] See also 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase deficiency.

Posted on: February 08, 2008, 08:20:50 AMIf you got the money and time go get tested for these syndrones.

Mara

I've heard of most of those and really I may get tested for them, it wouldn't hurt... well yeah it would... DAMN!

Don't know.
I mean,
I've got a 13 inch neck and its very long.
26 inch waist, 37 inch hips
30 inch underbust and 35 inch bust. (almost able to fit in a 32C, now a 34B).
I'm now a size 6-8 in tops, 4-5 in bottoms,
six inch wrist, small hand with long fingers.
150 pounds.

All of which for someone 6 foot tall is rather small.

But, not sure if I'm IS or simply a weirdly shaped male...

I just get the feeling that I'm a litttle more then an oddly shaped male... I really get the get the feeling thiers just more to it, especially with the period symptoms and all (which my endo did say were unusual in themselves.)

Kiera,

Just a feeling I get, probally not true, but when I was younger I wanted so hard to not develop into a man, and wanted to keep my feminie features.  I feel like at 20 years I have in many ways fought off changes mentally.

LOL.

Ya know mara, really, I've had that thought too. I SOOOOOOOOO did NOT want to be a male and maybe because of that mindset I somehow told my body "HELL NO, don't accept T just E" it did something like that, who knows, the body and mind are VERY powerful tools.

Don't know.
I mean,
I've got a 13 inch neck and its very long.
26 inch waist, 37 inch hips
30 inch underbust and 35 inch bust. (almost able to fit in a 32C, now a 34B).
I'm now a size 6-8 in tops, 4-5 in bottoms,
six inch wrist, small hand with long fingers.
150 pounds.

All of which for someone 6 foot tall is rather small.

But, not sure if I'm IS or simply a weirdly shaped male...

I'm going with weird shaped male!

You and I are almost identical in measurements Keira haha.  Except my breasts are nonexistent and I weight a little less unfortunately.  Weird shaped male for sure!  Genetics hate me!

Lol.

Don't know.
I mean,
I've got a 13 inch neck and its very long.
26 inch waist, 37 inch hips
30 inch underbust and 35 inch bust. (almost able to fit in a 32C, now a 34B).
I'm now a size 6-8 in tops, 4-5 in bottoms,
six inch wrist, small hand with long fingers.
150 pounds.

All of which for someone 6 foot tall is rather small.

But, not sure if I'm IS or simply a weirdly shaped male...

The only way to know is to test it. There are many XXY syndrome males and females who look nothing special as far as their birth phenotype. Some are fertile too.

Your hands are like mine, long slim fingers and the look and texture is 'dainty', like definitely not carpenter's hands.

I have smaller breasts, which I would hope would hurry up and grow! and yeah I should take that natural powder drink.

This is a pretty small frame for someone six feet, of either gender (my frame is similarly small for my height). My best explanation is that "I'm too tall for my weight". I'm 5'6" and 110 lbs.

I know, and I probably will, I'm afraid of the results though still.

This is a pretty small frame for someone six feet, of either gender (my frame is similarly small for my height). My best explanation is that "I'm too tall for my weight". I'm 5'6" and 110 lbs.

I know!  Now if only we could shrink a little to make our bodies look more proportioned   I've been trying to gain weight and it just sucks, like. . . it doesn't happen.  I can eat the world and still look like a stick, which bothers me!  Never going to get curves when you weigh 135 and are 6' tall!! grrrrrr.

The odd problems in life, eh Schala?

Eat fried foods and bread, it'll make you gain lots and lots of weight. Oh and eat them really quick so your metabolism doesn't know what to do with them and stores them as fat.

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

GOD! I wish I was 115 lbs, I'm like 158 right now and Iplan on getting down to about 120 maybe 125. I've already taken off about 70 lbs so it shouldn't be too much harder to get to my goal weight.

Krista,
    One thing I have found with some, not all mind you, but some TS' is the wish or hope they are more than TS and they try to find things to prove they are IS. Some may very well be, while others probably not. I am IS. I did not seek to be. I thought I was TS. But a lot of things did not add up for me. Firstly, as I read posts after posts written by TS' here I noticed the things they were feeling and writing about I wasn't experiencing even remotely. The more I read the more I still felt different but didn't know why. Secondly, the physical side of it. I am what some girls jokingly call IS to the extreme. I have a partial opening behind my sack area (partial in that it only goes so deep but is closed on the inside so nothing goes right inside me. I can get most of a normal size vibrator inside but not all the way and it is sensitive inside the area I can use. I have a clitoral area on my shaft just above that area. When my wife is intimate in this area (both the 'vagina' and 'clitoris' or just one or the other) I explode like I never exploded before when using the penis. I actually have 2 types of orgasm - I can feel one inside (and a little does flow to my head to discharge) and the one I should have for my birth gender. The inside one (female type orgasm is the one that most satisfies me). When my wife and I felt I was TS I started my transition with her blessing. All of a sudden my breasts developed and my voice pitched. But most of all this cramping I always got before seemed to be worse. It was the cramps we booked an appointment with my MD for since we didn't yet understand me. He commented about my breast devlopment and voice. He thought about it and sent me for a saliva test, blood work, x-rays and an MRI. The tests came back and blew our minds to say the least. Please don't ask me to quote all the medical jargon they and a lot of sites on ISism and some people here refer to because that would be like asking me to talk a foreign language. What I can tell you is the main points he emphasized - high estrogen, nil androgen ( and yes even he felt my kids are lil miracles in that I don't really have enough androgen- and yes they are mine (God does wonders)), I actually have a healthy uterus, one testi and one ovary, meaning my cramps are a true period ( I have other symptoms too with the cramps),lactose organs etc. As a matter of fact he told us if my vagina devloped properly (opened all the way inside instead of just part way) I would have a 78% chance of successful child rearing. My chances are this low due to the little bit of male parts I was given. As I stated, this was not something I asked for, I was settling into transition as a TS. But now at least all my mysteries about my body and mind over the years are answered and I am happier with it.
   In my opinion, until you get your medical testing done sometime then I wouldn't dwell overly much on it. Just focus on your self and your transition until the day comes to be tested. I was lucky my MD did the tests as I live in a part of Canada where minds are conservative-you are either male or female and no in between. Anything in between is a freak and deserves what he or she gets (beat up, humiliated etc). Good luck.
                                        Kim  

What you said is defnitely true, I'd absolutely love to be IS because of the fact that I would have proof that I was meant to be a girl and you really can't blame me for wanting that and I do admit that I want that. Just the knowledge that I have mostly female inetrnal parts, an Ovary or hell even an Ovoteste would be nice one because I would know why I look the way I do and two because it would put my mind at ease on the period thing.

I know I really shouldn't dwell on it but I'm young and the want to be a female in everyway is just too much, I am a female, a teenage gril but to know I had the parts to back myself up would be something I'd be happy about.

I'm more then likely going to see about getting tested but until then I'm probably going to be thinking about it a lot.

Anyway thanks for the info Kim, I really appreciate your response to this.

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

True, I guess I could always be skinnier

I wish I were skinnier, Lol.

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

There is a word for that, it's called transorexia.  Eat a cheeseburger already!

LMAO!!!!!!

Krista,
    One thing I have found with some, not all mind you, but some TS' is the wish or hope they are more than TS and they try to find things to prove they are IS. Some may very well be, while others probably not. I am IS. I did not seek to be. I thought I was TS. But a lot of things did not add up for me. Firstly, as I read posts after posts written by TS' here I noticed the things they were feeling and writing about I wasn't experiencing even remotely. The more I read the more I still felt different but didn't know why. Secondly, the physical side of it. I am what some girls jokingly call IS to the extreme. I have a partial opening behind my sack area (partial in that it only goes so deep but is closed on the inside so nothing goes right inside me. I can get most of a normal size vibrator inside but not all the way and it is sensitive inside the area I can use. I have a clitoral area on my shaft just above that area. When my wife is intimate in this area (both the 'vagina' and 'clitoris' or just one or the other) I explode like I never exploded before when using the penis. I actually have 2 types of orgasm - I can feel one inside (and a little does flow to my head to discharge) and the one I should have for my birth gender. The inside one (female type orgasm is the one that most satisfies me). When my wife and I felt I was TS I started my transition with her blessing. All of a sudden my breasts developed and my voice pitched. But most of all this cramping I always got before seemed to be worse. It was the cramps we booked an appointment with my MD for since we didn't yet understand me. He commented about my breast devlopment and voice. He thought about it and sent me for a saliva test, blood work, x-rays and an MRI. The tests came back and blew our minds to say the least. Please don't ask me to quote all the medical jargon they and a lot of sites on ISism and some people here refer to because that would be like asking me to talk a foreign language. What I can tell you is the main points he emphasized - high estrogen, nil androgen ( and yes even he felt my kids are lil miracles in that I don't really have enough androgen- and yes they are mine (God does wonders)), I actually have a healthy uterus, one testi and one ovary, meaning my cramps are a true period ( I have other symptoms too with the cramps),lactose organs etc. As a matter of fact he told us if my vagina devloped properly (opened all the way inside instead of just part way) I would have a 78% chance of successful child rearing. My chances are this low due to the little bit of male parts I was given. As I stated, this was not something I asked for, I was settling into transition as a TS. But now at least all my mysteries about my body and mind over the years are answered and I am happier with it.
   In my opinion, until you get your medical testing done sometime then I wouldn't dwell overly much on it. Just focus on your self and your transition until the day comes to be tested. I was lucky my MD did the tests as I live in a part of Canada where minds are conservative-you are either male or female and no in between. Anything in between is a freak and deserves what he or she gets (beat up, humiliated etc). Good luck.
                                        Kim  

You know that really is true...  My opinion is just go get tested for it... Dont dwell on it. Well said hear hear.

And I am not transorex I could out eat any one on the forums any day, and I do eat just about my weight in food every minute.

thank you

I agree andlike I said to a lot of the posts I've replied to I more then likely will. It may take som time though as I'm afraid of the results (ie being told that I'm not IS and just perfectly normal.)

We just have an uber fast metabolism duhhh!!!

I eat the world daily and people just stare at me in shock when they see how often I eat lol.  Yet people still seem to harass me because I don't weigh anything. . . to them

It's a good thing having a fast metabolism though, you can eat anything. Lol.

And I am not transorex I could out eat any one on the forums any day, and I do eat just about my weight in food every minute.

thank you

Seriously, 6' 115 lbs. is extremely thin.  If you have the bone density of a bio-male, even more so.  Even the 6 feet+ supermodels weigh more than that.  I'm not trying to harass you or anyone else, but in my opinion either you are lying or your health is in jeopardy.  If this is really the case, I urge you to seek help immediately.

 

My cousin who is a boy-boy is 6 feet tall and weight like 90 lbs and he's as healthy as a horse, he just has a fast metabolism.

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

Somehow this topic seems to have turned towards this instead of Krista. It happens. Only thing I can say to this weight thing is Mara could be the hide and seek champion-just turn sideways and nobody will see you!!LOL  - at least that's what people tell me (I'm 130 somehow because I am tiny)

Lol, I noticed that...

Try being 6 feet tall, and 115 lbs

Somehow this topic seems to have turned towards this instead of Krista. It happens. Only thing I can say to this weight thing is Mara could be the hide and seek champion-just turn sideways and nobody will see you!!LOL  - at least that's what people tell me (I'm 130 somehow because I am tiny)

lololol.

Back on topic!!!  Get it checked out Krista!  By the time were down talking about weight you'll have your answer

Lol, thanks shanetastic.

[shanetastic]

I really can't believe you just replied to like ALL that Krista lol.

KUDOS!!

Hopefully you can get a test sometime to see if you're intersexed sometime.

[Cortana]

I really can't believe you just replied to like ALL that Krista lol.

KUDOS!!

Hopefully you can get a test sometime to see if you're intersexed sometime.

Lol, thanks. It took me like a half of an hour to do it.

I'm very dedicated.

Hopefully, but like I said I'm really afraid to because of the results... I would be sad if tey said no I wasn't.

[shanetastic]

I really can't believe you just replied to like ALL that Krista lol.

KUDOS!!

Hopefully you can get a test sometime to see if you're intersexed sometime.

Lol, thanks. It took me like a half of an hour to do it.

I'm very dedicated.

Hopefully, but like I said I'm really afraid to because of the results... I would be sad if tey said no I wasn't.

Either way, I mean it doesn't discredit who you are or how you got here.  I understand what you mean in a sense, but really like it's not that big of a deal. 

[Cortana]

I really can't believe you just replied to like ALL that Krista lol.

KUDOS!!

Hopefully you can get a test sometime to see if you're intersexed sometime.

Lol, thanks. It took me like a half of an hour to do it.

I'm very dedicated.

Hopefully, but like I said I'm really afraid to because of the results... I would be sad if tey said no I wasn't.

Either way, I mean it doesn't discredit who you are or how you got here.  I understand what you mean in a sense, but really like it's not that big of a deal. 

No it doesn't but if I find out and it's no in a sense I'll be grieving. In my mind I'll have lost all of my would-be children, my babies, I guess in a maternal way I'll think that they are gone. That just kills me inside.

[shanetastic]

What do you mean exactly Krista?

Is my mind blanking out here because I've been overworked!  Or is just some dumbness showing on my part tonight lol

[Cortana]

What do you mean exactly Krista?

Is my mind blanking out here because I've been overworked!  Or is just some dumbness showing on my part tonight lol

Well think of it this way, your under the impression or have the thought in your head that you can have children or at least get eggs harvested from your ovaries to have children... but a doctor tells you no that can't happen... you'd feel like you had lost something, even though it was something you never had, it'd be apparent now that you could never have a baby and it would make you pretty sad... at least it would me.

I hope that makes more sense... sorry if it doesn't I don't really know how to describe it.

[shanetastic]

What do you mean exactly Krista?

Is my mind blanking out here because I've been overworked!  Or is just some dumbness showing on my part tonight lol

Well think of it this way, your under the impression or have the thought in your head that you can have children or at least get eggs harvested from your ovaries to have children... but a doctor tells you no that can't happen... you'd feel like you had lost something, even though it was something you never had, it'd be apparent now that you could never have a baby and it would make you pretty sad... at least it would me.

I hope that makes more sense... sorry if it doesn't I don't really know how to describe it.

Okay yeah wow, def blond moment or something.  Anyways I understand where you're coming from now a lot better hehe.  In that case, I have pretty much no clue what to say.  I mean, there are other options out there but I can feel the loss.  I have no chance of ever having a child of my own, but I mean for myself I just sorta remind how much I'm sacrificing to enjoy my life.  Sure, it's selfish, but hey, you can only live for other people for so long.  Either way, I mean, you're going to have okay news or some devastating news.  With whatever answer comes, just try to remember it happens for a crazy reason.  I know it's pretty optimistic and fate sounding, which ironically I don't believe in. . . (or do I?), but it'll work out for the best.  Just work on enjoying your life for the time being, your still way young!  There could be scientific advances for all we know right now in another 10 years!   

[Jordan]

My health is not in Jepoardy, geez people leave a girl alone already.

I'm healthy as a ox,,,  just a really fast metabolism,

If its any constellation, its in my genes that when I get to be about 30 I will become Fat, so yeah...

The world is fair somehow,....

BTW I do have a little pudge goin on from my former drinking days, and back in high school I was 5 10 and 94lbs...

People are always giving me ->-bleeped-<- about being skinny, but for once it works to my advantage as a girl, SO THERE...

[Cortana]

What do you mean exactly Krista?

Is my mind blanking out here because I've been overworked!  Or is just some dumbness showing on my part tonight lol

Well think of it this way, your under the impression or have the thought in your head that you can have children or at least get eggs harvested from your ovaries to have children... but a doctor tells you no that can't happen... you'd feel like you had lost something, even though it was something you never had, it'd be apparent now that you could never have a baby and it would make you pretty sad... at least it would me.

I hope that makes more sense... sorry if it doesn't I don't really know how to describe it.

Okay yeah wow, def blond moment or something.  Anyways I understand where you're coming from now a lot better hehe.  In that case, I have pretty much no clue what to say.  I mean, there are other options out there but I can feel the loss.  I have no chance of ever having a child of my own, but I mean for myself I just sorta remind how much I'm sacrificing to enjoy my life.  Sure, it's selfish, but hey, you can only live for other people for so long.  Either way, I mean, you're going to have okay news or some devastating news.  With whatever answer comes, just try to remember it happens for a crazy reason.  I know it's pretty optimistic and fate sounding, which ironically I don't believe in. . . (or do I?), but it'll work out for the best.  Just work on enjoying your life for the time being, your still way young!  There could be scientific advances for all we know right now in another 10 years!   

Lol, I'm platinum blonde naturally... I know what it feels like.

I know and if the news is devastating it'll take some time for me to move on.

[Keira]

Actually, 6 foot and 90 pounds cannot be that healthy since that probably means that your frame and ligaments are very very light (candidate for osteoporosis?, no fat and little muscles!!

Even with a high metabolism, I'm sure my 150 pounds, with lots of muscle,
burns much more calorie than someone at 90-110 pounds.  I can stay at a stable weight while eating 2800-3000 calories a day.
That's a LOT of calories. Even after 18 months HRT can still
bike at 35 mph for a mile, don't think someone with 90-110 pounds could do this.

My frame is small, but its covered with mucho muscles and
some fat, that's why
I fit in size 6 tops and size 4 bottoms even with all that muscle.
Some people need to starve themselves to fit into that size, if
I starved myself to 125 and lost muscles I'd fit in size 0.
But, at 6 foot tall, don't think I'd look too good!!! Muscles give curves too,
not just fat.

Still, its possible for me to gain weight in the right place even with that
high metabolism. Estrogen means that you'll strip the fat from the stomach
if you run any caloric deficit and if you got any and any supplement will
put in on the tigh, breast, face and buttocks.

[Jordan]

Keira,

I am currently 5'11.5" and 115lbs...  In high school I was 5'10" and 94lbs...

I can bench press my weight plus 10lbs (125lbs) rep10 easily... I'll make a video if this discussion that I'm some weak, ostoperosis ridden, sickly, undernourished disscussion continues.

SERIOUSLY I AM FINE... can we please stop taking over this girls thread,, shoot I will make a new thread so you all can slag me off about how skinny I am there at least....

BTW Are you saying my little pudge on my stomach is gonna go to my hips, boobs, and butt on HRT??? Cause that would be so awesome....

[Keira]

I wasn't talking about you specifically Mara.
Sorry if I did collateral dammage with my mouth (happens...)

Though, I'd like to relativise the high metabolism thing.
Everybody's got a different opinion of high metabolism.
When I was training twice a day 5 times a day for 10 years
for my track and field
I could eat 5000 calories a day, I was just one bundle of
lower body muscles. I had a funny shape with a huge lower body
and a tiny upper body.

if I compare myself to anyone, I've got an insane
metabolism, yet I can gain weight anyway, Just
need to know what to eat and what my caloric
equilibrium is. Once you know that. You just
set yourself a diet. It can be healthy, no
need to pig out.

[siouxsie]

My health is not in Jepoardy, geez people leave a girl alone already.

I'm healthy as a ox,,,  just a really fast metabolism,

If its any constellation, its in my genes that when I get to be about 30 I will become Fat, so yeah...

The world is fair somehow,....

BTW I do have a little pudge goin on from my former drinking days, and back in high school I was 5 10 and 94lbs...

People are always giving me ->-bleeped-<- about being skinny, but for once it works to my advantage as a girl, SO THERE...

Sorry, I should mind my own business.  I'm sure you look fantastic!