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Perineum scar?

Started by DebbieAnne, February 08, 2008, 03:57:21 PM

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DebbieAnne

I have always had a ridge, or what actually looks like a scar, which runs along the middle my perineum from the anus to the scrotum. Does anyone have an opinion, similar condition, or knowledge of this condition?
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Purple Pimp

That's the perineal raphe.  Everyone's got it, to varying degrees of visibility.

Lia
First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you would do. -- Epictetus
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DebbieAnne

Thank you Lia. Good to know.
Debbie
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MeghanAndrews

Debbie, mine's actually gotten more noticeable on HRT than before. I never noticed it before and now it's dark and easy to see. Strange indeed.
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LynnER

It tends to get darker and more defined with HRT...
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MeghanAndrews

Hmm, maybe that's a way of letting the doctors know where to cut down there when the time comes, lol. I know, they don't cut there, just sounded funny to me for some reason!
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Hypatia

I've seen transsexual women using this to claim that they were really intersex and had been "sewn up" as infants, and the operation hushed up. Color me skeptical.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Just Mandy

Mine is more noticeable too since HRT, much darker and raised... it's almost like it the
same tissue as breast tissue and is affected by hormones... I wonder if it is and our
scrotum would have been part of our labia/clitoris if we had not been so tragically mis-formed.

Amanda




Something sleeps deep within us
hidden and growing until we awaken as ourselves.
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Suzy

Quote from: Hypatia on April 23, 2008, 09:36:56 AM
I've seen transsexual women using this to claim that they were really intersex and had been "sewn up" as infants, and the operation hushed up. Color me skeptical.

Yes, I hoped that for a lot of years before I heard anyone else even talk about it.  Mine has always been rather pronounced, and sometimes even uncomfortable.  But yes, that would have been too good to be true.

Kristi
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Hypatia

I would hope in our community we'd be well informed about genital anatomy. All fetuses are female to begin with; everyone started with the same vaginal and labia tissue when the fetus's organs were first formed. It's only subsequent hormonal switches that cause male anatomy to develop, the fusing of the fetal vagina into that line you saw, and the fusing of the labia to form a scrotum. If this is evidence of intersex, then hell, all males are intersex!

Maybe the estrogen reawakens a faint cellular memory in that line where the fetal vaginal opening used to be, as if it yearns to reopen to its original state.

It's like the doors of Moria in The Lord of the Rings-- at first they were shut so tightly that no crack between them could be seen-- but once the magic word was spoken--
QuoteThen silently a great doorway was outlined, though not a crack or joint had been visible before. Slowly it divided in the middle and swung outwards inch by inch, until both doors lay back against the wall.
Makes quite a metaphor for SRS, eh...
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Just Mandy

QuoteAll fetuses are female to begin with; everyone started with the same vaginal and labia tissue when the fetus's organs were first formed. It's only subsequent hormonal switches that cause male anatomy to develop, the fusing of the fetal vagina into that line you saw, and the fusing of the labia to form a scrotum.

I thought that might be true... that's pretty awesome really :)

Amanda

Something sleeps deep within us
hidden and growing until we awaken as ourselves.
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Floating

Quote from: Kristi on April 23, 2008, 10:13:42 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on April 23, 2008, 09:36:56 AM
I've seen transsexual women using this to claim that they were really intersex and had been "sewn up" as infants, and the operation hushed up. Color me skeptical.

Yes, I hoped that for a lot of years before I heard anyone else even talk about it.  Mine has always been rather pronounced, and sometimes even uncomfortable.  But yes, that would have been too good to be true.

Kristi


Ditto.

I have a fairly pronounced penile raphe as well.  It actually does look like it was a bad sewing job   :-\   For the longest time I thought that it was a sign that I wasn't a boy.
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annajasmine

This was something I always wonder about but never dared to ask. Thanks DebbieAnne for asking this question.


Anna


Add this link to this post.
http://www.isna.org/faq/conditions/raphe
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gina

Mine is also darker and more raised since HRT.

gina
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Hypatia

Quote from: Princess on May 24, 2008, 05:22:52 PM
does it do that because it's trying to represent a vulva?

QuoteMaybe the estrogen reawakens a faint cellular memory in that line where the fetal vaginal opening used to be, as if it yearns to reopen to its original state.
(pardon the anthropomorphizing of tissue)
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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isterriis

And I thought I was the only one, mine is very dark almost red but is hidden, my skin folds over it and the part on where my scrotal sac is the same, (my testis never dropped) so if you look under my penis it almost look like inner labia hanging out. It makes a way cool place to tuck myself, something I just recently learned to do :)
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Hypatia

I just checked and wow, my line is quite dark, prominent, and sharply defined. Was it the estrogen that did that or had it been that way already? I think the effect was produced by estrogen. Amazing. This is a phenomenon that could only have been discovered via transseuxalism.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Janet_Girl

Now it is interesting.  Upon further inspection, mine is also.  It would make for an interesting study in to if this is unique to MtF TS, or do bio males have the same thing because of some intervening event.

I never thought of it before.

Janet
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annajasmine

Here is something found a while in the wiki.


QuoteThe line that runs down the underside of the penis and down the middle of the scrotum, the peno-scrotal raphe (where the urogenital folds fused early in the womb), will darken.
https://www.susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_(male-to-female)
Under Urogynecological effects.

My has darken quite a bit since hrt.

Anna
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Melissa

Yeah, same with mine.  Mine isn't just on the perineal area though, it runs all the way up.  I know it's normal though.  I think I did a post on this a while back when I first started noticing it.
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