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Do video games provide a clue that you are truly "female" brained?

Started by Just Mandy, February 13, 2008, 01:27:28 PM

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Did you ever (or do you) like to play video games?

No, I don't enjoy them
27 (32.5%)
Sometimes
45 (54.2%)
No, I don't enjoy them
11 (13.3%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Dawn Labelle

Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 07:00:51 AM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 06:57:37 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
I hate them......

but some people like them no matter what gender they are.....but it seems to be mostly kids and men that play them...




well i can say this there woman just as well as men and kids that play mmo,s a lot  ::) ::) you would be

shocked to see the numbers if the gameing companys was to keep track of it  ::) ::)

it's probably split 50 / 50 so the topic is irrelevent..

Actually, the group of people who play the most games are .... wait for it ..... middle aged women. Yes they play online card and board games, or solitaire, and they aren't very likely to wait in line for the latest console but if you go by sheer numbers they are the largest demographic. This is a big reason Nintendo has had alot of focus on non-overt-killing games in the past few years. I wish I could find those links ....

and no topic is irrelevant, this one is just not of interest to you

Dawn
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tekla

I think Dawn is right.  I know all these girls/women who play games - not first person shooter games, but Ma Jong, on line, and on their computers.
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soldierjane

I think it's more an issue of upbringing. I'm sure just a very low percentage of mtfs played with barbie dolls or learned to color-combine clothes growing up and this doesn't mean the rest are less women than those who did; it is changing rapidly now, but gaming is very much thought of as a male thing (like the internet was thought of before it found widespread access) even though there's really no basis for it and there are a wide range of games appealing to people who think in all kinds of different ways.
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LivingInGrey

I've gamed for a long time, starting out with table top (meaning no electricity required, pen and paper, good math skills, a bag full of dice and lots of imagination) games like BattleTech, Dungeons and Dragons (along with AD&D) and Ravenloft to the electronic sector with games like Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9 for the Sony Playstation to my most recent love, MMO's (Massive Multi Player) like World of Warcraft (although I'm reaching the end of my wits for MMO's and would like to get back to table top games). During my time I've meet about the same amount of girls as guys that like to play all formats of games. As already stated, I'm another person that thinks it's a 50/50 mix and that CNN article about games and who's addicted to them just didn't find the right girls for the survey or just didn't have the fundage to do a large scale research project. I've meet guys that hate games just as much as girls that can't stand these types of games.

An article of note, http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2006-12-12/cohn-girlgamers
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Schala

Quote from: soldierjane on February 20, 2008, 09:27:41 AM
I think it's more an issue of upbringing. I'm sure just a very low percentage of mtfs played with barbie dolls or learned to color-combine clothes growing up and this doesn't mean the rest are less women than those who did; it is changing rapidly now, but gaming is very much thought of as a male thing (like the internet was thought of before it found widespread access) even though there's really no basis for it and there are a wide range of games appealing to people who think in all kinds of different ways.

Well, with guy clothes, the incentive to color-combine simply isnt there. Blue, brown, black and white...like that's hard to combine...they all go together or almost, the only combination I think is bad is blue and brown. White and white, black and black, white and black, blue and white, blue and black, brown and black all go together...

Color-combination is also dependant on how much one *wants* to color-combine, if you have absolutely no incentive to do so, it stands to reason that few will do it. If the fashion industry and your peers pressure and challenge you to outdo them everyday, then yeah, you'll develop a sense of creativity over it.

Some have a more 'natural talent' for it than others. And that's not necessarily women.

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Well, as for gaming. Women are considered non-violent by society, the men-as-perpetrator women-as-victim model pushed for by feminist concepts such as patriarchy and domestic violence institutions that they run has made it a societal-wide view. Women's violence is denied or minimized, while men's victim status (when they really are victim) is similarly denied, especially if at the hands of women.

A lot of recent studies concerning Domestic Violence suggest an equal or almost ratio of violence male-female and female-male, and a somewhat higher female-female than male-male (surprisingly enough). Women are the initiators of violence in slightly more than half the cases (like 53% or so).

The notion that women are poor defenseless dolls who only fight in self-defense is a popular, but false, notion of society.

Women can be just as violent, and just as interested in violence as men, including violent games and role-playing games. Where there might be a basis for the difference is that visual-stimuli tends to be a lesser factor for women than for men, especially considering arousal patterns. Videogames being mostly visual, maybe there is a link. Table-top games may be different though.

The reason women may be more violent stems partly from society's view that men should protect women and not hurt them. As such, some women take it literally and hurt men thinking they can get away with it. And they do, a lot of the time, if it's not bad enough (because men don't report it, and when they do, get laughed at for being wimps, I don't see women being called wimps though, not by the DV orgs anyway).
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soldierjane

Quote from: Schala on February 20, 2008, 11:50:41 AM

Some have a more 'natural talent' for it than others. And that's not necessarily women.



I think exposure makes more of a difference in the overall population than natural talent. Growing up male, as you pointed out, there's no incentives.
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krisalyx

yes well for me at least if a game has female characters i play 'em like the dynasty warriors series i mean it's just SO much fun just killing 100's of peons at a time, but i've been playing since the atari 2600 and i've had and have right now ps1 ps2 x-box (just got that earler in the week really cheap) oh and the dreamcast.
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Alyx.

I enjoy video games.

SSBB, Pokemon, and Sonic, as well as MMOGs. :)
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Pariah

I LOVE video games.
My SISTER, older than me, LOVES video games. She has every console there is out there on the market currently.

So, I do, and my sis does...looks like it runs in my family!  ;D
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Pariah

Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 01:49:57 PM

While theres a lot of men in comparison to females playing video games I dont think this necesarilly has to do with having a female brain

I have been playing video games since I was young, still do it on the Pc online too but yet I still literally everyone that meets me  says I radiate something feminine; my gestures, voice, interests ( child care- Im actually good at it, fashion, non-sports, wicca, all my friends are female except for my male brother who I play games with

So what makes that me then?

PS: One of my gaming friends online is a girly girl who has a daughter and works at a hospital and says she still plays too much WoW. We both play healer "classes"more though, shes a Priest and Im a Druid...something gaming girls do more often than guys playing percentage wise. Pet classes are very popular with girls too. Lumbering warriors are the least..

If there are exceptions to the rule than Its not entirely true :P

Yeah, my most favored classes (and I brag about this online  :embarrassed:) are healer classes. If I can do ANYTHING to help anybody buff/heal wise, I will. It kinda translates to my real life, cause I go out of my way to help others when i could easily sit back and watch and do nothing. But everyone does that. Ha, video games =/= extension of life  8)
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soldierjane

Healers are nice, they keep us tanks cozy in our armors while the meanies clang helplessly against our shields. Rock on, clothies  ;D
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Fox

Ive played a lot of video games. Mostly pc over console since last console I owned was a normal xbox years ago. My favorite type are RTS I love Star Craft and am eagerly awaiting SC2 although with Blizzard's track record will be awhile. I also play MMos my preferred classes are melee based dps useually rouges, I play tanks every so often as well. I always play female characters. Recently I have been feeling burnt out on MMOs can't find any to hold my attention for over a month free or pay. I enjoy Rpgs on the cpu and a few console ones such as some of the Final Fantasys. I play an occasional FPS with a friend but not on my own.

On one other note with computer games the PC market has been really lax in last two years with coming out with games seems the console market has all the developers I'm almost tempted to buy a console since nothing new comes out for PC all that fast.

Video games aside to me they pale in comparison to to tabletop RPGs. I love a good campaign of WOD or even D&D. Table top was always a perfect escape for me and a great social environment. Unfortunately the gaming community around here is dead and I haven't been able to play for several years. I'm hopping when I transfer from community college to a large 4 year like NC State ill be able to find a table top community again.
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Alexis R

I play on XBL all the time, and usually the more violent games, like Call of Duty4: Modern Warfare or other titles in that series. I don't play for the violence, I play for the online component and the social aspects. I'm a  member of a clan, (that'd be a GAMING CLAN), and we get together and just have fun shooting each other full of virtual holes.

Does this make me any less female? I don't think so. We have several females, not counting me, in the group and some of them are the best players in the group.

I think CNN and all these other organizations just want to shame girls from playing video games. It gets them out of their "comfort zones," after all, watch the female anchor's reaction near the end of the program. She automatically went for the "It looks so complex," routine and completely underestimated her intelligence and comprehension levels.

In short, I am of the opinion that these studies are designed to make women feel inferior and stupid. In the case of the talking head, it worked.

Your mileage may vary.

Angela
~Alexis
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Vexing

Gaming material has traditionally been targeted at males.
We're now seeing a change in the kinds of games being produced; games which encompass both genders as a target audience - such as The Sims.
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Alyx.

Quote from: Vexing on December 15, 2008, 06:42:39 PM
Gaming material has traditionally been targeted at males.
We're now seeing a change in the kinds of games being produced; games which encompass both genders as a target audience - such as The Sims.
And there are quite a lot of games targeted at girls in particular. Hell, some of them even look fun and cute!



If you do not agree to my demands... TOO LATE
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Kate

Quote from: Angela MacLeod on December 15, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
and we get together and just have fun shooting each other full of virtual holes.

Isn't it GREAT? We do the same with Halo on Xbox. Buncha friends, lotsa pizza, and we just go at it for an evening.

My wife is deadly with a sniper rifle, lol...

I have a particular fondness for quickly sneaking up behind people, and... well... you get the picture ;)

~Kate~
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Alexis R

Quote from: Kate on December 15, 2008, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: Angela MacLeod on December 15, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
and we get together and just have fun shooting each other full of virtual holes.

Isn't it GREAT? We do the same with Halo on Xbox. Buncha friends, lotsa pizza, and we just go at it for an evening.

My wife is deadly with a sniper rifle, lol...

I have a particular fondness for quickly sneaking up behind people, and... well... you get the picture ;)

~Kate~

Yeah, people know not to turn their backs to me, as I tend to strike from behind.

Angela
~Alexis
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Sephirah

One of the most fun games I played in recent years was an RPG called "Steambot Chronicles" for the PS2, but I could never figure out who it was meant to appeal to. Playing a variety of instruments in a band, and giant robots... kinda odd combination. But it was marvelous fun nontheless.

I have a pretty strong dislike, by which I mean hatred of the highest order, for FPS games... with the sole exception of Metroid Prime. And those squad based shenannigens, too. They just totally leave me cold, bored and completely uninterested. :-\ I really don't see the appeal of strategically waiting for someone to appear and shooting them the second they do. Or telling your buddies to shoot them.

Give me a vast, well written, preferably free roaming RPG and I'm a happy girl. :)
Natura nihil frustra facit.

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Vexing

Quote from: Leiandra on December 15, 2008, 09:07:33 PM
I really don't see the appeal of strategically waiting for someone to appear and shooting them the second they do. Or telling your buddies to shoot them.

Ditto.
Try Tribes III, it breaks the FPS genre by having 3D movement (i.e. flying), skiing and weirdly slow weapons.
Playing something like Battlefield 1942 after playing Tribes is like jumping after you've been on a trampoline - you feel so heavy and sluggish.
Oh, and it's nigh impossible to camp in Tribes. YAY!
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Sephirah

I picked up a copy of 'The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion' on Friday, and that's a largely first person RPG, which I'm enjoying immensely, and on so many levels (my High Elf Enchantress rocks). There is the option to switch to third person view, but for combat that's largely useless.

I think it must just be the guns that bother me about FPS games. I don't like the 'S', lol. Or the plot (if there even is one), or the repetitiveness, or the multiplayer (what with being antisocial and all), or the spawning of a seemingly new, and very disturbing language associated with such games... 'The Armchair Rambo Litany', as it should be known... shouted at levels only creatures with ultrasonic hearing can fully appreciate, through headsets and mics throughout the world. :-\
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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