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Questioning began when...?

Started by Chaunte, April 20, 2006, 10:50:46 PM

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When did you first start identifying gender as opposite of your birth-sex?

0 to 7 years old
8 to 14 years old
15 to 21 years old
21 to 35 years old
35 years old or later

Chaunte

I know that we've run this poll before.  While it seems like madness to run it again, there is method to it.

I have started my next book project.  The working title is:

You Can't Shave Using Minimart Bathroom Soap. 
(It isn't slippery enough.)
Ms.-adventures on a Journey of Discovery
.

While a lot of this book will be autobiographical, I want to show that many aspects of my journey really are not all that different than anyone else's journey.  So, I may post a poll now and then to get some information.  I promise that I will warn you that it is for my book.  If you leave a comment, I may use it.  I WILL ask permission before I use your name.


Posted at: April 20, 2006, 11:45:14 PM

I remember going out for a drive in the country with my Mom and Dad.  Dad ALWAYS drove.  At the same time, I also had a teddy bear that was as tall as me.

One day, I "liberated" one of my mother's dresses.  (It turned out to be her new one.  Oops.)  I would wear the dress while my bear drove our pretend car out in the country.

I also vividly recall my mother being quite upset that her dress was crumpled up in my room.  The first layer of guilt was painted on. 

Chaunte
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Louise

I have always felt different from other males.  While I am a CD and not TS, I have always been uncomfortable in the traditional male gender role.  My first crossdressing experiences go back to my pre-teen years when I would secretly try on some of my mother's clothing, but the underlying feelings go back to my earliest memories.
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madison

I am not sure if this is relevant to your book project, but I could not participate in the poll. Unfortunately, much like Louise, I do not entirely identify as opposite of my birth sex. I see myself as a being somewhere between male and female in gender identity, but my birth sex has never been at issue in my life.

Thus the phrasing of the poll question negates my participation. However, I doubt I am alone in my situation, and that there are experiences that could be relevant, depending on the scope of your book.

Issues of not behaving or appearing stereotypically male have been prevalent my entire life. Having no interest in any sort of competitive sports. Playing "school" and other non-agressive games with the neighbor girls. My great grandfather telling me what a pretty girl I would make. Early experiences playing dress up in moms clothes. Taking sewing and cooking in high school. Designing a bathing suit for a girlfriend. An affinity for romance and romantic stories. Being highly emotional.

And yet with all this questionable male behavior, I still also portray many other characteristic alpha male traits. So for years I experienced an immense amount of confusion. On numerous occasions I wished it were as simple as having been born the wrong birth sex.

I hope this gives some insight into other circumstances that may be relevant to your project.
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jan c

I just remembered this: when I was prolly 5 or six, I would push that thing up inside me in the bath; I remember being very sad when it would no longer be hideable this way. That, and about the same time (I loved baseball; very proud of my card collection):
'Throws like a GIRL! You are a girl! Go home you can't play baseball!'; l went about my bidness, whatEVER, forgot about it, sort of, til the next round...
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Chaunte

Quote from: madison on April 21, 2006, 01:29:17 PM
I am not sure if this is relevant to your book project, but I could not participate in the poll. Unfortunately, much like Louise, I do not entirely identify as opposite of my birth sex. I see myself as a being somewhere between male and female in gender identity, but my birth sex has never been at issue in my life.

Thus the phrasing of the poll question negates my participation. However, I doubt I am alone in my situation, and that there are experiences that could be relevant, depending on the scope of your book.

Issues of not behaving or appearing stereotypically male have been prevalent my entire life. Having no interest in any sort of competitive sports. Playing "school" and other non-agressive games with the neighbor girls. My great grandfather telling me what a pretty girl I would make. Early experiences playing dress up in moms clothes. Taking sewing and cooking in high school. Designing a bathing suit for a girlfriend. An affinity for romance and romantic stories. Being highly emotional.

And yet with all this questionable male behavior, I still also portray many other characteristic alpha male traits. So for years I experienced an immense amount of confusion. On numerous occasions I wished it were as simple as having been born the wrong birth sex.

I hope this gives some insight into other circumstances that may be relevant to your project.

Madison,

The entire transgender spectrum is quite large.  We simply happen to be in different places on the spectrum.  While I may have been a little off in my wording, your input is valuable and important!  Think of the question like this: when did you first start playing dress-up?  I would bet you good money ... heck, I would bet you a pint or two of Guinness that many of us in the transgender community started by playing dress-up.  Please, cast your vote!

Chaunte
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Dennis

I didn't actually vote accurately. I didn't begin questioning until I was 12 or 13. Until then, I was entirely sure I was a boy. But I think that's what you meant, was when you first thought you were your non-biological gender. So I voted early. It wasn't till I really understood that I was going to go through a different puberty than the one I expected that I realized I was different. That's when I started questioning. Before that I was certain. Wrong, but certain.

Having a hell of a lot of fun going through the puberty I expected at 12 at 43 though!

Dennis
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Melissa

For me, I knew things were wrong when I was between 5 and 7, but didn't actually start "identifying gender as opposite of your birth-sex" until a few years later, so I answered the second one.

Melissa
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jan c

Quote from: Dennis on April 21, 2006, 11:21:19 PM
I didn't actually vote accurately. I didn't begin questioning until I was 12 or 13. Until then, I was entirely sure I was a boy. But I think that's what you meant, was when you first thought you were your non-biological gender. So I voted early. It wasn't till I really understood that I was going to go through a different puberty than the one I expected that I realized I was different. That's when I started questioning. Before that I was certain. Wrong, but certain.

Having a hell of a lot of fun going through the puberty I expected at 12 at 43 though!

Dennis
me too dude, at 49, like a 13-y.o girl. (Can you imagine the confusion of going through puberty that was Mixed? I was given T to accelerate the secondary aspects to match the external gonads. >{This is OT' a little but} in ref to your concern about never quite getting a beard, it took years and years for me (boy I wish they'd'a taken a different tack) but I'd say no worries; yer already singing bass, right?
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Kate

When did you first start identifying gender as opposite of your birth-sex?

I've *always* wished I had been born a girl - at least as long as I've been aware of such differences (3 or 4).

And yet, I've never made that leap of faith/logic to conclude I therefore *was* a girl. The whole gendered-soul, "woman trapped in a man's body" thing never really caught on with me - at least not as a literal truth.

Is wishing the same as identifying?
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Chaunte

Quote from: Kate on April 22, 2006, 10:53:49 PM
When did you first start identifying gender as opposite of your birth-sex?

I've *always* wished I had been born a girl - at least as long as I've been aware of such differences (3 or 4).

And yet, I've never made that leap of faith/logic to conclude I therefore *was* a girl. The whole gendered-soul, "woman trapped in a man's body" thing never really caught on with me - at least not as a literal truth.

Is wishing the same as identifying?

It works for me.  I think there is a difference between wishing I had a million dollars and wishing I was a girl.  The wish would suggest a strong desire that a child could not otherwise verbalize.

Chaunte
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Dennis

Quote from: jan c on April 22, 2006, 10:35:17 PM
me too dude, at 49, like a 13-y.o girl. (Can you imagine the confusion of going through puberty that was Mixed? I was given T to accelerate the secondary aspects to match the external gonads. >{This is OT' a little but} in ref to your concern about never quite getting a beard, it took years and years for me (boy I wish they'd'a taken a different tack) but I'd say no worries; yer already singing bass, right?

Yeah, my speaking voice sounds like a 16 year old boy, but my singing range is in the baritone bass range, so I'm not too worried about it. I figure the beard will come in time. What's pissing me off at the moment is the random patches of hair I have to shave off even though I can't actually grow anything yet. I just found a new one today just above my (new) adam's apple. Now wtf am I going to do with a patch of hair there? Hell, if I wanted to grow anything but a mountain man beard I'd shave that off. Bleh. Now I'm stuck with yet another patch to remove.

Dennis
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Kate

Quote from: Dennis on April 23, 2006, 01:34:32 AMWhat's pissing me off at the moment is the random patches of hair I have to shave off even though I can't actually grow anything yet.

LOL, I know the problem, only in going the other way - the laser hair removal session pretty much wiped out my beard (for a few weeks), *except* for a dense patch here and there (side of chin and on neck). It looks SO stupid, lol. I have almost no facial hair otherwise, and yet BECAUSE of those patches, I have to shave constantly to even things out.

Life has such a sense of humour ;)
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Debtv

I was 4-5 years old. I could not relate to the boys harshness and knew I was different. I felt like a little girl thrown into a boy world. As I grew older I became more aware I supressed myself and tied my best to be boytuff. What a struggle...and alone for me...back in the 60's.

Love
DebTV
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Chaunte



Dennis, If I could donate my facial hair folicles to you, I would!  By noon, I have the beginnings of a 5 o'clock shadow!  (Thus my misadventure in the minimart bathroom with a razor!  :icon_giggle:)

Deb, I COMPLETELY understand what you went through!  Back in school, I thought I was the absolutely only person in the world who thought his/her gender was wrong.  For you young'uns who have grown up with the internet, you have no idea how much of a Godsend the 'net is in learning that you are not alone. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what we today call transgender was originally diagnosed as "homosexual with crossdressing tendencies."  Treatment was electroshock therapy, was it not?   :icon_yikes:
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HelenW

I always felt different from everyone else.  I didn't know why.  I have a vague memory of playing "house" in kindergarden, at 5 yr of age, and being told that I "had" to be the daddy because I was a boy and being disappointed about it.
I started to cross dress at 12.  It made me feel good.
I decided that I was a female soul in a man's body decades ago.
I began to question if I was transsexual and should transition in July, 2005, shortly before my 50th birthday.

So, when did it "happen"?  It never did.  It was always there but in different forms.

helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

Southwestern New York trans support: http://www.southerntiertrans.org/
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Jillieann Rose

I voted late in life. I was over 55 (last fall) when everything began to change. And I too always felt different from every other guy I knew.  I love to playing house as long as I can remmber with my sisters and a neighbor girl. They guys always wanted to play some kind of ball game, but they were to rough for me. I do remember dressing as a girl a couple of times as a teen and occassional in my wifes cloths as an adult. But would never allow myself to put two and two together.
At this point I have to say i'm a cross dresser because I haven't been diagnoist as anything by my theropys.
:)
Jillieann
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Bmore

Kinda the same thing here, I'm 51 and the even though I sometimes would dress in female clothing through the years, I never questioned it, I just thought it was comfortable, or what's the big deal? For years I would draw myself as a woman (I'm an artist) and again the light never went off. Then in my late 40's, I wrote a story with a Trans character in it, which is odd, since I knew virtually nothing about this. I started doing a little research to flesh in the character, opps, too much of me in everything I read. Thank goodenss for the internet, or I'd still be dumber than a box of rocks.
I've always been pretty feminine in my disposiiton, but never thought to connect the dots. I never even realized the dots lead anywhere. Still in retrospect, it makes so much sense,duhhh.
I dated a medicine woman for a while, she called me "Two Spirit." That too, was a revelation that has stayed with me.
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Jennifer72

I voted in the teens range. Although now I can remember wanting to be a girl from a much earlier age. About 17 yrs is when I really realized that I was very different from the other boys. Then I put it away untill now in my 30's.

Jennifer
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tinkerbell

#18
Hi Chaunte:
I first told my mom that I wanted to be a girl when I was three years old.  Of course she was upset but didn't actually take me seriously until a year later when I tried to hurt my own genitals.  So yeah...it's been a while since I first realized I wasn't a boy.

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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umop ap!sdn

I'm not sure I can answer the poll accurately, and here's why...

As long as I can remember I've hated the image of myself as a boy. When I was about 5 or 6 my friendships with girls were much closer than with boys. I had fewer interests in common with the latter. Around 11-12, bang - the desire to be a girl and the attraction to girls hit simultaneously. (Imagine the confusion that caused over the years!) At 16 I was going to bed every night hoping against hope that I'd wake up the next morning physically transformed.

But the questioning didn't start until, through the internet, I was able to read up on the subject and come to understand that TS people aren't like the stereotypes I had learned. After that realization I went through some confusion for a few months (at age 23) as I tried to sort out how I felt and what I wanted to be - and came to the conclusion that OMG, I must be such a person!

Up to that point, to the best of my recollection I had never worn so much as a single article of women's clothing. At first I figured I'd just be a jeans & t-shirt kind of gal, but when I did get to try feminine clothes I found I like them a lot. Seems so natural, and so me, which is why I don't even consider it to be cross dressing.
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