"Transgender Rights & Hate Crimes" Bill Must Be Defeated

[Shana A]

Friday, March 07, 2008
"Transgender Rights & Hate Crimes" Bill Must Be Defeated

http://massresistance.blogspot.com/2008/03/oppose-h1722-transgender-rights-hate.html

Oppose Bill H1722, the "Transgender Rights and Hate Crimes" bill. The Judiciary Committee will decide before March 19 whether to pass this bill onto the legislature for a vote. Go to our action page to contact the members of the Committee.

Bill H1722 would add the essentially undefined phrase "gender identity or expression" to many existing Mass. statutes, opening the door to unimaginable perversions played out in public – and the public will have no right to object. H1722 would:

[Sandy]

I really should stop reading these inflammatory sites.  Besides raising my blood pressure by about ten points, all I can think of is:

Chrystalnacht...
Selma...
Watts...
The Killing Fields...
Genocide...

I was only a child during the passage of the Civil Rights bill.  But I experienced all the hatred that the blue collar families I lived around had.  I didn't understand it then, and I certainly don't understand these bigoted diatribes now.

Also what I am reminded of is the early days of the nazi party when it came into power.  Their hatred of Jews were well known.  But they didn't start out by killing people, at least not openly.  But subtly slowly with propaganda then small seemingly innocuous laws that slowly eroded the rights of the Jews.  Then they built on that with the brown shirts and more and more laws restricting Jews, Gypsy's, homosexuals (pink triangles on the breast not the star of David) and others until it was accepted and expected to harass and harm anyone who wasn't *pure*.

The lesson that the Jews learned from the holocaust was that if they had risen up with a single voice in opposition when the nazis first started their pogrom then they very well would have stopped the nazis in their tracks.  That is why to this day they say that they will NEVER FORGET!  They will NEVER ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!

Do we have to go through a holocaust ourselves to learn this lesson? 

Homosexual agenda indeed!

-Sandy

[tekla]

These political viewpoints are not the moral equal to a Holocaust, at least not yet.  They should not be ignored, and they ought to be watched like hawks.  Still, to compare the two is to ignore what really happened in the real one.

[RebeccaFog]

   I believe the dilrods linked the headline so it brings you back to the same page.   I don't know why, but I'm still cracking up about it.   It's just so stupid.

   I'm not worried about these mental midgets.  They didn't stop some of my friends from getting married.  If they have an effect on this bill, it ought to just shame the hell out of those of us who let them do it.

[Sandy]

These political viewpoints are not the moral equal to a Holocaust, at least not yet.  They should not be ignored, and they ought to be watched like hawks.  Still, to compare the two is to ignore what really happened in the real one.

Tekla:

Of course what is happening in the LGBT community today is no where near as extreme as what happened in the Holocaust.

And in no way was I trying to minimize what happen in the Holocaust.  It was a human tragedy that was unimaginable in scale.

What I was getting at was that the holocaust started slowly, in small ways, and that no one stopped those small changes.  This is what I was trying to bring out.  These bigoted, hateful, and ignorant people with their attempt to "protect" the citizenry by using fear, and the bogyman of the homosexual agenda are the same types tactics that the nazis used to start eroding the rights of the Jews.

It didn't happen overnight.  It was in small steps. 

And that is why we must be vigilant, so that we do not allow these small steps to turn into  a holocaust for us.

-Sandy

[NicholeW.]

Still, to compare the two is to ignore what really happened in the real one.

Of course what is happening in the LGBT community today is no where near as extreme as what happened in the Holocaust.

And in no way was I trying to minimize what happen in the Holocaust.  It was a human tragedy that was unimaginable in scale.

What I was getting at was that the holocaust started slowly, in small ways, and that no one stopped those small changes. 

It didn't happen overnight.  It was in small steps. 

And that is why we must be vigilant, so that we do not allow these small steps to turn into  a holocaust for us.

-Sandy

Exactly, which requires not much imagination to see.

I'm sure that when the Munich police and a few Reichswehr troops dismantled the 'beer hall putsch' in 1924 no one was thinking that 'the movement' would see Dachau built 13 years later and certainly didn't imagine that Hitler would be Kanzler in 10 years time.

Butterfly effects.

I don't mean to say that every inkling should be crushed without mercy, but hatred should be opposed. At the least with a truth they are not willing to have shine on their hatred.

N~

[lady amarant]

I read them 'cause they are funny, once the initial surge of blind rage abates. Take for example, this gem of a line:

opening the door to unimaginable perversions played out in public – and the public will have no right to object.

Horrors!

[Sandy]

I read them 'cause they are funny, once the initial surge of blind rage abates. Take for example, this gem of a line:

opening the door to unimaginable perversions played out in public – and the public will have no right to object.

Horrors!

What always strikes me as funny is that these *er* people so tastefully ignore the unimaginable perversions that have already started playing out in public in those 13 states that have already passed gender and orientation equality laws.

Blessedly I live in one of those states, Illinois, and oddly enough I have yet to see any rapists or pedophiles in the ladies rooms.  Maybe I just wasn't looking close enough.   Maybe I should start asking others in the ladies room with me if they are rapists or pedophiles...

Nah...

-Sandy

[NicholeW.]

What always strikes me as funny is that these *er* people so tastefully ignore the unimaginable perversions that have already started playing out in public in those 13 states that have already passed gender and orientation equality laws.

Blessedly I live in one of those states, Illinois, and oddly enough I have yet to see any rapists or pedophiles in the ladies rooms.  Maybe I just wasn't looking close enough.   Maybe I should start asking others in the ladies room with me if they are rapists or pedophiles...

Nah...

-Sandy

O. we have them quite regularly here in this state where we have no 'special' laws written for us as yet. They just swarm into every women's room available!

That whole 'special' legislation is a hoot as well! No, not much 'special' legislation for hertero, married couples with children in ANY state law!!

I am always sorta awed by the ability of people who are de facto privileged to imagine that destiny, fate, God or some inevitable 'Law of the Universe' mandates that they are to be given precedence just because they are 'right.'

I'm sure that people of color REALLY feel that way about anti-discrimination laws and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 . Totally unnecessary to grant any 'special' protections to people who are regularly treated as less than and of no account!

Yep, Charles (Dobson,) Phyllis (Schafly,) and Tim (DelaHaye) pile that crap a little higher will ya? I'm not quite suffocating yet!!

N~