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A book to read for a starter MTF

Started by Kimberly Kilpatrick, March 09, 2008, 01:24:33 PM

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Kimberly Kilpatrick


I found this book and thought I'd share. I found this part in the book that is gonna cause me to a lot of soul searching. I have very little experience  because I am ashamed of my penis and don't want people to touch it. I don't know how to over come my fear. I

Yet many women refuse to have sex until after the surgery. What are they afraid of? That as long as they have it, they are a man? Women are born, not created. And some of us are born with a penis. Others can't stand to use their penis during the act of sex. What are they afraid of? That if they allow a man (or woman, remember) to touch it, that they are a man? Well, a fine line here, but a line just the same.  But having a penis, and using it during sex is a reality that we all go through. To a Sister, it is who and what we are, a woman born with a penis, and nothing more. There is no shame in having sex prior to surgery, or allowing it to be used during sex, and we can still feel like the women we were born to be while on our hands and knees and the damned thing flops back and forth during the act.

I feel like a woman trapped in this man's body. I can wear regular type women's clothes not being ultra fem. In fact I prefer jeans over dresses. In fact I am in the process of getting rid of all my male jeans and tennis shoes. I already have done so with my underwear. I didn't dress over 4 years since the last time I tried transitioning. I got involved back in a deep drug addiction and used to try to forget about my fem desires. But I still thought about it everyday. When I started and still trying to stay sober I finally had to buy some clothes ,make up , shoes, wig  etc. When I was buying them I was shaking with excitement and even had tears of joy. No more shame.
I have come out to many friends and even started wearing women's jeans panties and tennis shoes when in male mode. I don't know if total transition is right for me but I must express my fem side or I feel incomplete. But I hope this post helps someone or someone can give me some insight because I open. 
                                                     Thanks Kimberly
I found a therapists but I have to wait til my money is their which won't be much longer.
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Steph

Personally I feel that the things that the author of this article writes about is nothing more than speculation and conjecture on their part.  The statistics that are listed are unsubstantiated and there is no link or reference to where these stats were gathered.

Much of what this person proposes is preposterous especially indicating that most TS resort to some form of prostitution in order to get the finances required for transition.

An interesting read, but no thanks.

Steph
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Kimberly Kilpatrick

I found some of the stuff helpful. But I don't think all is accurate please remove the topic if it offends. I won't be hurt.
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Terra

QuoteIn the real world, approximately 13% of all people are gay. If you have not noticed yet, in the world of the TS, approximately 70% of all Sisters are lesbian. That is a huge difference. And many people have attempted to explain it. I personally know two people, one of which is a clinical psychologist and the other a psychiatrist, who have either wrote a book or a thesis on the topic of how a TS changes their sexual orientation after the transition. At one point in your life you were a man, basically and for all practical purposes, a straight man, that had sex regularly with women. Then you changed sexes. Now you are either a lesbian, a straight woman, or a bisexual woman. This is in fact a drastic change, and it is in fact worth books and a few well thought out thesis. Why? Simple... you cannot predetermine or alter your gender... that is set in your mothers womb. But you can change your sexual orientation. So far as the medical and psychological community have determined to date, your sexual orientation is a result of a combination of genetics and experience. It is at least partially a choice.

Don't know, as far as I know, you are born gay, straight, bi or whatever. Sorry Kimberly, while it is great this got you thinking, I feel the author has her own agenda she is pushing. This section is just one of the more glaringly obvious sections.

Basically what I got from this 'book' was that if you don't pass, don't transition. Also that activists are out to get you. I live in stealth, but I plan to be out to my student's someday so that the LGBT kids have someone to come to. To be an ally of my students. I don't think the majority of activists out there want anything less then the best for everyone, but then again I have been known to be wrong.
"If you quit before you try, you don't deserve to dream." -grandmother
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Berliegh

There's no definitive book on transition or the pitfalls and everyone's own experiences are different...
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Hypatia

What book are you all talking about? I don't see no book?
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Wing Walker

Quote from: Hypatia on March 16, 2008, 02:00:14 AM
What book are you all talking about? I don't see no book?

Thanks for the chucks, Hypatia!  LMAO!!!!!

Read "Back Off!" by Martha Langelan.  It is a practical handbook on sexual and gender harassment and if one is to be a woman then one will know harassment.  That's the only book I can see that is useful.  I have "She's Not There" by Jennifer Finney Boylan but I never cracked the binding.  It's not even large enough to put on the coffee table!

Wing Walker
Know Where You're Flying
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cindybc

Well I don't see a book either but from reading the responses from different members here I must say that I agree with everyone on their response.

Cindy
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Shana A

Quote from: Hypatia on March 16, 2008, 02:00:14 AM
What book are you all talking about? I don't see no book?

It appears that Kimberly edited her first post and took out the link to the book.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Hypatia

Kimberly! How's anyone supposed to make any sense of this thread now ::)
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Seshatneferw

Actually, if you look at it, the link was removed by Susan. At a guess, as a violation of rule 1: "We do not allow the advertising of other web sites or chats ..."

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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cindybc

OK I didn't notice the tiny print at the bottom. Anyway from the feed back there was I can safely say, I am not interested in some of what was presented from this book. But then that is only what I feel about it and not necessarily anyone else feels.

Cindy
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