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Started by deniz, March 11, 2008, 10:18:48 AM

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deniz

would you be kind enough to state your vaginal depth and the doctor responsible for that
also, if anyone has any information about the depth promised by each doc.
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kirakero

Depth is determined usually by the intestines preventing any further depth.  Additionally depth for most MtF post-ops is the same as natal females.
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tinkerbell

Five inches with skin grafts.  Dr. Meltzer.
And yes kirakero is correct.  Depth depends on anatomy and surgeons usually go for what it is "normal". A five inch vagina in a genetic female is a pretty normal depth and hence a good end result for us (me?)!  :P

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Lin

I always doubt what those who went to a Thailand surgeon often brag they got 6 or even over 7 inches depth... cause the depth doesn't only depend on how much skin grafts you can get, but also depends on your body's anatomical structure. After all, do we really need it as deep as 6 or even over 7 inches? I remember I read somewhere a 30 years post-op said she just got about 4.5inches without problem for penetrative sex. Actually according to her experience, for intercourse there is no big difference between a 5 inches penis and 7inches one...
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Natasha

dr. bower's girl here.  she was able to give me a six inch depth. seven months post op and counting.
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trailertrash_NOT

Hello all,

  Ok firstly I'm now just under 6 months post-op. I went to Thailand to see Dr. Chettawut Oct of last year. Having viewed my pictures that I had sent him and taking into account my age, I'm an older transtitioner, he said he would strive for a depth of 5 to 6 inches, BUT, I  would likely need an addtitional skin graft.
The day after arriving in Bangkok I had my first face to face consult with him and upon examination he again said that he would strive to give me a depth of 5 to 6 inches and that I would require the addtional skin graft. He MADE it very clear to me that UNTIL he actually had me opened up on the table that he could not be certain as to the depth he could achieve. This being due to everyone having a differing anatomy. The pelvic anatomy of a M2F is considerably different then a natal woman ie our pelvic opening tends to be much more oblong then round, and hence the actual location of the vaginal opening and the douglas pouch determining the depth.
He was able to achieve a depth of 5 1/2'' and I was told that with digilent dialation that I could improve upon that by up to 1/2 inch. I have taken 6 months off work and have dialated quite diligently and my depth now today is 6'' and there is also a bit of stretch that can occur as well up to perhaps another 1/2.
I started having sexual relationships with men at 4 months post-op. I have yet to have a man 'Bottom Out In Me'. I have had sex with 8 men now and they have ranged from 5 1/2'' to 8'' in length. How much my daily routine of dialation ( 4 - 5 hours a day ) has played in that I am not sure.
None of the men I have been with are aware that I'm a T and none of them have found anything peculiar with my vagina other then my being somewhat tight compared to other woman they have had sex with.

NOTE: Natal womans vagina's range from 3 to 4 inches when flacid; HOWEVER unlike US, when aroused their vagina's lengthen by 150 to 200 percent, whereas ours are pretty much a fixed length ie depth.

ANOTHER NOTE: This is never talked about for some reason beyond me. Satisfactory depth can be achieved I think by most reputable surgons today. What is not talked about is girth of the vaginal opening. You may have a 6 or 7 inch depth but if your limited to a 1'' thickness of penis then you will find yourself limited to pencil dicks for sex or very uncomfortable and or painful sex other wise. This for you pre-op girls is the most difficult part of dialation. As you must stretch the inflamed PC muscle daily and over time work the opening thru it larger and larger. All of this being done while it is inflamed from the intial surgory and fighting the scar tissue trying to narrow it. I now dialate with a 1 1/2 x 7 inch smooth silicone dildo ( way more comfortable the the lucite stents ) for 2 hours a day. On those days when I'm aroused and time to dialate I will sometimes use an 1 5/8 thick realistic silicone one in conjunction with the smooth one. One other note that I have. When meeting someone I will push about a teaspoon full of lube into my vagina ahead of time, and lightly lube the opening. I have yet to have any problems with leakage from this.
Byee,
  Brina
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jade

My surgeon was Dr. Preecha, I achieved 6" of depth (there was no skin to use for my vaginal lining, its all colon), but I totally agree with Brina about the width.
Successful intercourse depends mostly on your width, if you are lacking the width you need, you won't be able to take anything. If you can use the biggest dilator in your set given by your surgeon, you should be able to accomodate most men. If you achieve around 5 inches of depth more or less, you should be fine, thats enough. If you watch straight porn, you will see well endowed men can't put it in all the way. I know some people on this forum have talked about natal vaginas stretching more than our ones, but they can only stretch so much, they have organs restricting the size they can take too, they have digestive tract plus the cervix to worry about. A guy with a long penis will hit a woman's cervix and it will be painful. So I would not worry too much about other ts women bragging about their depth, a lot of women exaggerate their results as part of ego. This is not a big dick competition, the important thing is the individual can have comfortable intercourse once they have healed.
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Tammy Hope

I'm glad Brinna mentioned thickness and gave some recommendations in that regard.

I am aware from some of our past activities that the really impressive (physically) lovers are quite often those for whom thickness is impressive as opposed to length.

Still, length is so heavily fetishized that it's only natural to hear "5-6 inches" and wonder if that will be "enough"
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Mister

Quote from: Laura Hope on September 10, 2009, 09:31:08 PM
Still, length is so heavily fetishized that it's only natural to hear "5-6 inches" and wonder if that will be "enough"

In order to get 100% of his length inside you, you'll need to be pretty damn flexible.  More often than not, there is probably an inch or so of penis that'll never make it in your vagina.
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Northern Jane

Dr. Biber, 1974, and he had damned little to work with, 4", maybe a little more.

In 35 years (and too much misbehaving) that is sufficient 98% of the time. There are ways to compensate for the other 2%  ::)
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DawnL

I have over 6" of depth and Marcie Bowers was my surgeon.  I marked my dilators soon after surgery and the depth has remained constant.  The opening is quite tight and since I wasn't having sex, I didn't always use the largest dilator.  Now that I'm contemplating sex, I've had to work back up to the largest dilator (1 1/2") and it was gone well.  I was worried I wouldn't get it back but I have. 
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Valentina

6".  Dr. Sanguan was my surgeon.
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winter88

Quote from: DawnL on September 13, 2009, 11:18:10 PM
I have over 6" of depth and Marcie Bowers was my surgeon.  I marked my dilators soon after surgery and the depth has remained constant.  The opening is quite tight and since I wasn't having sex, I didn't always use the largest dilator.  Now that I'm contemplating sex, I've had to work back up to the largest dilator (1 1/2") and it was gone well.  I was worried I wouldn't get it back but I have.

Hi. i was wondering if you can orgasm. and have a natural looking vagina with marcie bowers. ttyl. thank winter88
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sweetie87

Suporn girl here with just over 6 inches or 16 cm. I didn't need skin grafts.
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hilah.hayley

I have 6.5 inches with my legs spread and 7 with them closed ;) all thanks to Dr. Marci Bowers. No skin grafts and i'm at 1.5 inch diameter!
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winter88

Quote from: Hayley Rivka on November 03, 2011, 01:53:05 PM
I have 6.5 inches with my legs spread and 7 with them closed ;) all thanks to Dr. Marci Bowers. No skin grafts and i'm at 1.5 inch diameter!

Thats just as much depth as suporn gives his girls. does the marcie vags look natural or do they have scars? when did you have srs? and have you reached the big O yet?
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hilah.hayley

Quote from: winter88 on November 03, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
Thats just as much depth as suporn gives his girls. does the marcie vags look natural or do they have scars? when did you have srs? and have you reached the big O yet?

I can't imagine that there wouldn't be any scars at all. There are scars, but one side is already beginning to fade though I doubt all of it will every fade completely. I had my surgery this past September 7th and it does happen to look rather natural. I haven't reached the big O yet rather just a small o, but i'm getting there.
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winter88

Quote from: Hayley Rivka on November 03, 2011, 04:49:45 PM
I can't imagine that there wouldn't be any scars at all. There are scars, but one side is already beginning to fade though I doubt all of it will every fade completely. I had my surgery this past September 7th and it does happen to look rather natural. I haven't reached the big O yet rather just a small o, but i'm getting there.

I THINK IM GOING TO LET MY SCARS LIVE IN THE BEST CREAM SO THEY CAN DISSAPEAR LOL. ITS GOOD THAT YOU HAD ATLEAST A SMALL O ONLY AT 1 MONTH AND A HALF POST OP THATS GREAT. DO YOU HAVE SENSATION INSIDE THE CANAL OR ON THE LABIA CLIT AREA ONLY? OR MAYBE BOTH? NOT SURE.

WELL IM SUPPOSED TO GO TO SUPORNS LAIR ON THE 14TH WHICH IS LIKE 11 DAYS AWAY AND ALREADY SENT DOWN PAYMENT OF 35OO BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IM CANCELLING BEACUSE I KEEP HEARING BETTER THINGS ABOUT MARCIE AND BAD THINGS ABOUT SUPORN.

I KNOW I WILL HEAR GOOD AND BAD ABOUT BOTH SURGEONS, BUT IVE REALIZED THE ONLY BENEFIT SUPORN HAS OVER MARCIE IS 1 OR 2 MORE INCHES OF DEPTH, THATS REALLY IT. MARICE WILL MAKE ME ORGASMIC JUST LIKE SUPORN WILL, AND I THINK HER RESULTS LOOK FAR MORE NATURAL.

IVE SEEN 3 SUPORN GIRLS UP CLOSE AND PERSONNEL AND ALTHOUGH I ACCEPTED IT I THOUGHT THEY LOOKED AWFUL. THE HOLE IS SO HUGE LIKE THEY GAVE BIRTH AND OBVIOUS SCARS WOW REAL UGLY.

AND THEY ARE IN PAIN MUCH LONGER DUE TO A MORE INVASIVE SURGERY WERE THEY HAVE TO DIALATE LONGER AND I HEAR ITS MORE PAINFUL, AND THEN TO GET BACK ON AN AIRPLANE FOR 24 HRS ON A PLANE SITING ON YOUR NEW VAG FOR 24HRS???  AND DEAL WITH THE FLOODINGS IN THAILAND NOT KNOWING IF A BIGGER FLOOD WILL COME? WAYYYYYY  TO MUCH DRAMA FOR ME.

I HEAR MARCIE IS NO PAIN OR VERY LITTLE PAIN. QUICKER RECOVERY LESS DIALATION. MORE NATURAL LOOKIN.

I THINK IM GOIN TO HER.

I ALSO MET HER AT A SEMINAR AND SHE SEEMS NICE
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hilah.hayley

I can't say anything for or against Suporn, but Marcie was in-network in my insurance and so my entire surgery was covered. I got results that even exceeded her expectations! The recovery was rather quick and I was surprised at how well it all went.

Marci's dilation routine is fairly easy to follow. Start 3 times a day for about 15-20 minutes and drop to twice a day after 3 months, then down to once a day after 6 months. The instructions call for 15 but I usually do it for 20. At 2 months out I find that even when I skip the second dilation of the day, I still have no issue reclaiming it in the evening, and i'm on 1.5" dilator now.

The only thing anyone should be prepared for is that while in the hospital you will barely see Marci and may feel abandoned or that she has a poor bedside manner. The truth is she's not there because there's really no reason to be. The nurses generally take very good care of you, always on hand to assist and very friendly. If you have any kind of issue when you get out of the hospital, she is however available a phone call away and will do what ever she has to in order to make sure you're ok. She is VERY dedicated to your needs. I have been communicating with her regularly via email, text and phone and she always responds fairly quickly. If I have concerns about something in particular, I let her know and even send a photo of what is concerning me and she responds ASAP. I'm very glad I chose to go to her!
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lilacwoman

7 inches from Christopher Ingelfield in London.
He came to see me every morning of the 8 day stay.
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