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Started by Steph, January 16, 2008, 04:41:47 AM

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Are you employed either full time or part time?

Yes - Full time
34 (57.6%)
Yes - Part time
9 (15.3%)
No
8 (13.6%)
On disability of some form
4 (6.8%)
Retired
1 (1.7%)
Still in school
2 (3.4%)
No - I am financially secure
1 (1.7%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Voting closed: February 05, 2008, 05:12:57 AM

Ell

ok, now laid off.

injured at work, then laid off/put on temporary disability.
 
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cindybc

"Hi Ell hon!!" sorry to hear about your being unemployed and on temp disability. I will certainly send prayers for you. Well you know where I am if you should find a need to talk.

Re: Are you employed?

I was fortunate that I qualified  for Provincial disability  but when my job of twenty years as a Social Worker came to an end, "aaaaaaaaag!!!" To much idle time. Boy does one rather quickly find ones life  becomes restricted. I was OK financially and now Wing Walker and I are on her disability pension. But money is not everything, It was the idle time that was driving me insane.

My present work  is as doing social work at a woman's shelter a couple of days per month and Wing Walker and I also continue keeping the doors open for the Drop in and Support group for TS all is volunteer
work. Having twenty years as a Social Worker was what cinched the two volunteer jobs.

Cindy

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lady amarant

Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
ok, now laid off.

injured at work, then laid off/put on temporary disability.
 

Aw Ell honey, I'm sorry! Are you okay?

~Simone.
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Autumn

With the way the economy is I might as well be unemployed these days.
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Shana A

Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
ok, now laid off.

injured at work, then laid off/put on temporary disability.
 

Ell,

Sorry to hear that!

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Lisbeth

Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
ok, now laid off.

injured at work, then laid off/put on temporary disability.

I am very glad you didn't land on your head.  Just when was your accident, dearest?
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
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Wendy

Steph, I like an ongoing survey so that I can see larger samples of statistics.

About five years there was a downturn in the energy business and I was let go.  I was a project manager for  Enterprise Resource Planning for Oracle sourcing.  After the downturn I removed myself from society and lost total confidence in myself.

I had an opportunity to spend a half a day with a well know significant-other (Ann) of a TG person a few days ago and I expressed my feelings that I feel rejected from the TG community. (I have developed severe paranoia.) Then I mentioned I do not know how to do my hair and she told me that I need a half wig to cover male pattern baldness. It was a pleasant conversation and I bought her lunch during our conversations.

She told me to try to be happy with my uniqueness and not worry what category I am. She said I appeared to be a gender bender.  I have not visited a medical doctor in five years and I have been taking an agressive regiment of hormones for three years which does make me feel somewhat better when I get the right mixture for me.  I have lost 50 pounds, one inch of height (that was surprising) and have grown my hair for 9 months without a haircut.  People make fun of my hair since I have male pattern baldness at 53 years of age.  I got tired of the insults and cut four inches off my hair yesterday April 13th and my hair is now above my ears.  Kerri/Wendy was very depressed last night and feels I am failing.

I do pretty much everything and look like a hooker when I transform myself.  I only go outside as a male,  and would tell you I am a male if asked.  I do have severe mental illness and at times fit or don't fit any TG category.  Ann (the significant other mentioned above) had very strong feelings that I should seek some professional help.  I am tired of being removed (by my choice) from society.  I only pass as male no matter what I do. I seem to be interested in being a high school math teacher but I do need to jump through a number of hoops.  I have signed up to be a substitute teacher and I passed the high school teacher math exams. I have no excuses for my behavior.

I do feel my lack of confidence at job interviews hurts my chances to be hired.  After a small amount of rejection I go back into seclusion.  Since no one views me as a female, except me in private, I will have to blame my issues on myself.  I am ashamed, self-centered, and disappointed with myself.  I appear to be unwilling to stop what I am doing and blame my lack of employment on myself not my TG issues.

Steph thanks for this thread.  It was difficult for me to answer.
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Ell

Quote from: cindybc on April 13, 2008, 07:59:06 PM
"Hi Ell hon!!" sorry to hear about your being unemployed and on temp disability. I will certainly send prayers for you. Well you know where I am if you should find a need to talk.

Re: Are you employed?

I was fortunate that I qualified  for Provincial disability  but when my job of twenty years as a Social Worker came to an end, "aaaaaaaaag!!!" To much idle time. Boy does one rather quickly find ones life  becomes restricted. I was OK financially and now Wing Walker and I are on her disability pension. But money is not everything, It was the idle time that was driving me insane.

My present work  is as doing social work at a woman's shelter a couple of days per month and Wing Walker and I also continue keeping the doors open for the Drop in and Support group for TS all is volunteer
work. Having twenty years as a Social Worker was what cinched the two volunteer jobs.

Cindy

Thank you, Cindy.


Posted on: April 14, 2008, 11:31:38 AM
Quote from: lady amarant on April 14, 2008, 04:18:23 AM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
ok, now laid off.

injured at work, then laid off/put on temporary disability.
 

Aw Ell honey, I'm sorry! Are you okay?

~Simone.

Thank you, sweetie. well, i still have a ways to go before my hand functions properly.
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tekla

Granted there are few things more important than confidence in the job interview.  Its right up there with wear clean clothes and try not to reek of whiskey or green bud.  How is someone who hires you going to have confidence in your work if you don't? 

I've lost jobs in fields during economic downturns, I bet most people here have.  Quite unlike my fathers generation, or most generations that went before us as a matter of fact, most of the people I know have done several very dispirit things in their lifetime.  There are people who taught college or were medical doctors who now drive over the road trucking.  There are people who drove big rigs who now teach college.  So it goes. 

So one job went away, the next one - which may not even be anywhere near what you've ever done, might be the one you really like. 

TG people do get hired.  Its hard.  Its a real problem in the community, but some do.  As for dressing like a hooker, buy different clothes.  Hooker is fashion statement, not a manner of dressing. 

And yeah, reach out and find help.  I have trouble with the statement that you feel 'rejected' by the TG community, when I know many in here who would argue that there is no such thing in the first place.  You can't be rejected by something that does not really exist.  So, ya've meet some pretty mean, low-down, self-centered girls out there?  Yup, there are plenty.  I know more than one myself.  But not all are that way. 

I don't feel some sort of vibrant personal experience at every TG event I go to.  Far from it.  Mostly I feel like "oh ->-bleeped-<-, they are setting up the big paper deals and pulling out markers and they are about to start drawing org charts and deciding who is going to be chiefs and who get to be the tribe."  Which is right about when Tekla skirts her little butt right on out of there.  Discussions of theory, philosophy, sharing life stories - all that I like.  Coming up with a way to accomplish something - I'm down with that.  Debates about organization and administration - count me out.  Dancing, now your talking.  There are lots of worlds to the greater TG experience, lots of different people, but I don't think there is one UBER community, not at all.

In fact, the TG community just mirrors, as most communities do, the greater society where some people will like you, others will not, most won't care one way or the other.  And where you like some, don't like others, and feel more or less indifferent toward the mass you don't know.  I've made good TG friends, and I've met others who don't like me so much either.  So it goes.

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Ell

#49
Quote from: Autumn on April 14, 2008, 05:14:13 AM
With the way the economy is I might as well be unemployed these days.

how come? thin ice you're on or something?

Posted on: April 14, 2008, 12:12:04 PM


Quote from: Zythyra on April 14, 2008, 07:44:08 AM
Ell,

Sorry to hear that!

Z

Thank you Z.

-L
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April221

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Wendy

Quote from: tekla on April 14, 2008, 11:46:24 AM
As for dressing like a hooker, buy different clothes.  Hooker is fashion statement, not a manner of dressing. 

You mean if I go to interview dressed like a hooker for a financial position at a bank it might hurt my chances to be hired?   I never tight lace for an interview.  I do have my principles!   ;)
...........
Ell I am sorry to read you got hurt. If you enjoyed your prior work I hope you get a new job in that industry and that you recover quickly.

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Actually I will make an effort to meet more people that are TG.  It does help to talk to people that can relate to certain experiences.
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By the way I volunteered to tutor High School math for a semester for the students that were struggling with Algebra and Geometry.  I have also volunteered to help with the latest Habitat home for the church.  I do believe volunteer work is beneficial because it makes you feel useful and might open an opportunity or two.
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Ell

Quote from: Lisbeth on April 14, 2008, 08:20:43 AM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
ok, now laid off.

injured at work, then laid off/put on temporary disability.

I am very glad you didn't land on your head.  Just when was your accident, dearest?

Thank you Sweetheart. It happened in January.
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Kt

Last place I worked for nearly 2 years went out of bussiness as of February, so I am currently unemployed :(

Looking on the bright side, I am making more on unemployment compensation than I was when I worked,...

Looking for Network Engineer type work in Bay Area, currently,...  :-\
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Ell

Quote from: Wendy on April 14, 2008, 11:08:05 AM
Steph, I like an ongoing survey so that I can see larger samples of statistics.

About five years there was a downturn in the energy business and I was let go.  I was a project manager for  Enterprise Resource Planning for Oracle sourcing.  After the downturn I removed myself from society and lost total confidence in myself.

I had an opportunity to spend a half a day with a well know significant-other (Ann) of a TG person a few days ago and I expressed my feelings that I feel rejected from the TG community. (I have developed severe paranoia.) Then I mentioned I do not know how to do my hair and she told me that I need a half wig to cover male pattern baldness. It was a pleasant conversation and I bought her lunch during our conversations.

She told me to try to be happy with my uniqueness and not worry what category I am. She said I appeared to be a gender bender.  I have not visited a medical doctor in five years and I have been taking an agressive regiment of hormones for three years which does make me feel somewhat better when I get the right mixture for me.  I have lost 50 pounds, one inch of height (that was surprising) and have grown my hair for 9 months without a haircut.  People make fun of my hair since I have male pattern baldness at 53 years of age.  I got tired of the insults and cut four inches off my hair yesterday April 13th and my hair is now above my ears.  Kerri/Wendy was very depressed last night and feels I am failing.

I do pretty much everything and look like a hooker when I transform myself.  I only go outside as a male,  and would tell you I am a male if asked.  I do have severe mental illness and at times fit or don't fit any TG category.  Ann (the significant other mentioned above) had very strong feelings that I should seek some professional help.  I am tired of being removed (by my choice) from society.  I only pass as male no matter what I do. I seem to be interested in being a high school math teacher but I do need to jump through a number of hoops.  I have signed up to be a substitute teacher and I passed the high school teacher math exams. I have no excuses for my behavior.

I do feel my lack of confidence at job interviews hurts my chances to be hired.  After a small amount of rejection I go back into seclusion.  Since no one views me as a female, except me in private, I will have to blame my issues on myself.  I am ashamed, self-centered, and disappointed with myself.  I appear to be unwilling to stop what I am doing and blame my lack of employment on myself not my TG issues.

Steph thanks for this thread.  It was difficult for me to answer.


Aw, Wendy, that is so heart-wrenching.

i see what what you mean about feeling rejected by the TG "community". But that is only a small percentage of the people on this site, for instance. why worry about what someone says if they say it in a hurtful way? they obviously have their own issues to resolve.

but most others here are very supportive, i think, so i hope you were not including Susan's in that estimation. please do not be a stranger.

can you explain what you mean when you say you have no excuses for your behavior? i don't get that.

also, i have never regarded you as someone with "severe mental illness" or "paranoia". you've always been a very thoughtful and gentle person, and i have always regarded you as a worthy friend. please don't use those harsh terms about yourself. you may be under an extreme amount of stress, certainly, and that can make anyone seem a little nuts. but trust me, you are a real sweetheart.

Please PM me anytime if you need to talk. i miss hearing from you.

love,

-ellie
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Wendy

Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:17:33 PM

but most others here are very supportive, i think, so i hope you were not including Susan's in that estimation. please do not be a stranger.

can you explain what you mean when you say you have no excuses for your behavior? i don't get that.

also, i have never regarded you as someone with "severe mental illness" or "paranoia".

love,

-ellie



Dear Ell,

I love the people at Susan's and I consider you a friend.  My paranoia makes me "think" people are making fun of me.  They have their own lives and could care less what I do.  I can get away with more things than I thought... but not too many.  I tried to get "to female" and ate every bit of energy in my body.  Now I am trying to get back to male and eat every bit of my current energy.  I am very moody, have spills of depression, fits of anxiety, punish myself with extreme isolation for my unacceptable behavior and have absolutely no resiliency for the slightest rejection.

Most of the time I can do a good job at an interview and would be extremely competent and reliable for a job that would fit my skill set.  I also started a couple of businesses that did not pan out.  One business  made a little money and one lost a little money.  Even though three years of hormones have had dramatic effects on my body I still look like a man.  In fact I now look like an "old pretty boy".  In job interviews "pretty boys" have an advantage.  Therefore all my issues are in my head and I can't blame TG for my job difficulties since 100% of the general population views me as a male.

My behavior is unacceptable because TG stuff rules my life.  Susan's forum and my wife have been very good at helping me get back to reality.

Thanks Ell for your comments.  By the way I like your hair.  I like the curls in it.

W
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