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Started by MarcosGirl, May 05, 2006, 02:47:55 PM

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MarcosGirl

Hi everyone...

My name is Pam and my partner, Marco,  is currently in the process of transitioning (FtM).  We have been together for 6 months and it has been a rocky start.  We are both going through divorces.  His is going smoothly (ex-husband is extremely understanding) and mine is horrific (my ex-husband is a narrow minded, self centered person).  Marco has 4 children and I have two.  Both of our oldest daughters are best friends.  They are both very angry with us at the present time.  Marco's other 3 children are adjusting well and my son is not.  My kids don't have the benefit of a father that treats their mother respectfully...on the contrary, he trashes me to them every chance he gets.  Marco and I both feel that we've never loved anyone else in our lives the way we love each other.  We have both gone back and forth on whether we should stay together or not, but we feel that if we really want happiness in our lives, we need to be together.  About 3 weeks ago, the dynamics of our relationship changed for the better.  We have made a committment to each other to stop sitting on the fence and to be together forever.  We're just trying to give our daughter's the space they need to be able to understand and hopefully accept us in the future.

Any words of advice that anyone has are greatly appreciated!  Looking forward giving and receiving support from other significant others like myself.

                                                                                   Pam, a.k.a.  Marco's Girl
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: MarcosGirl on May 05, 2006, 02:47:55 PM
Hi everyone...

My name is Pam and my partner, Marco,  is currently in the process of transitioning (FtM).  We have been together for 6 months and it has been a rocky start.  We are both going through divorces.  His is going smoothly (ex-husband is extremely understanding) and mine is horrific (my ex-husband is a narrow minded, self centered person).  Marco has 4 children and I have two.  Both of our oldest daughters are best friends.  They are both very angry with us at the present time.  Marco's other 3 children are adjusting well and my son is not.  My kids don't have the benefit of a father that treats their mother respectfully...on the contrary, he trashes me to them every chance he gets.  Marco and I both feel that we've never loved anyone else in our lives the way we love each other.  We have both gone back and forth on whether we should stay together or not, but we feel that if we really want happiness in our lives, we need to be together.  About 3 weeks ago, the dynamics of our relationship changed for the better.  We have made a committment to each other to stop sitting on the fence and to be together forever.  We're just trying to give our daughter's the space they need to be able to understand and hopefully accept us in the future.

Any words of advice that anyone has are greatly appreciated!  Looking forward giving and receiving support from other significant others like myself.

                                                                                   Pam, a.k.a.  Marco's Girl

Hello Pam

Welcome to Susan's.  Our SO membership is rather small but just as important as the other members and Forums here.  The area has been quiet lately as lives and living often interrupt activities here at Susan's.  My SO (Gill) posts here and I'm sure she may have some help in that respect.  We encourage none SO's not to post here as we unintentionally tend to push our own agenda, if you know what I mean.  However having said that, advice is advice and as long as it's good advice who cares where it comes from.

Your new commitment to each other is a great way to start.  It will be greatly helped by being truthful and honest with each other.  Communicate and don't be afraid to share your feelings with each other, sometimes it will hurt but the love and bond that develops will make it easier.

Giving your daughters space is great.  Realistically it's one of the only things you can do.  There is no way you are going to force anything on them.  I'm waiting for my daughter to get over her anxiety and finally meet me, I haven't seen her since Dec 2005.  it's the hardest thing to suffer that's for sure.

I'm sure that you will get more advice, chat later.

Steph
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MarcosGirl

Steph...

Thank you for the advice and the post.  I am open to advice from SO's and none SO's alike.  If someone happens to say something I don't particularly agree with, I'm not offended at all.  I appreciate the input.  I think it makes the world a much more peaceful place when we can realize that everyone comes from different walks of life, thus opinions differ.  I feel that when we consider other's opinions and respect them, that is how we grow and learn.  Sorry I'm getting so philisophical...I'm running late for an appointment, but will be back later.

Thank you again for the post and I hope for positive things to happen with your daughter.

Pam
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christy-lee

hey pam im new also

hope ur having as good a time here as i am  :)
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Robyn

Hi, Pam.  Welcome.

I'm one of the more rare SOs because I'm also TS.  My husband and I married 6+ years ago and then each tansitioned in opposite directions.  I'm also the Secretary of PFLAG TNET.

I know a fair number of older couples who have stayed together during and after transition as well as several MTF/FTM couples. 

Bright blessings

Robyn
When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly. — Patrick Overton
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angelsgirl

Hello!

Sorry I'm late! Welcome to Susan's!

I'm Kelly, the SO of Jocelyn (pre-op MtF).  I'm glad to learn that there are other people like me out there! When I first joined, I didn't think I had anything in common with the other SO's besides having a transgendered partner.  Basically, I knew about Jocelyn being TS before we started dating (it makes things a heck of a lot easier, believe me!) so most of my support needs involve the reactions of family, friends, and the general public rather than my own feelings about her condition.

Congratulations on your progress in your relationship.  My only advice to you as far as dealing with the other people in your life, just give them time and space to sort out their real feelings (which may be different than their original reaction)  You have very little control over the attitudes of others, but you have complete control over your own.  If it someone that is important to you, make sure you let them know that they are important to you and that you are willingly to discuss any questions or problems openly. When you do, make sure it is in a calm manner and  don't lash out in anger (as difficult as that may be).  People won't listen if you raise your voice and won't hear what you're really saying if you become defensive and start throwing insults back at them.  Refer them to as many informative resources possible (in the hope that they actually use them) and then wait and see.  They may come around yet.

I try to be on here as much as possible, but I know I have large gaps of activity on here.  If you ever want to e-mail or send me a PM, feel free to do so. 

~Angelsgirl
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MarcosGirl

Hey,

Thank you Christy-lee, Reikirobyn & Angelsgirl for the welcomes!  I am really enjoying it here.  There is such a huge amount of support and people have been great with good advice and word of encouragement!

;D ;D ;D
Pam
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Peggiann

Goodevening Pam,

I must appologize for not responding sooner. We, that's Leah and I have had some personal things going on in our corner of the world that have not permitted me the time to be even reading the posts for 5 weeks now. So sorry to read what a dredfull time of it you and all you love and care for are going through. From what I have read in the other responses...you have been given some very wise words of wisdom. I totally agree that given enough time your ex will do more than enough to make your children know whom is the person they would most want to pattern themselves after in the area of treating others as you would have them treat you. Remember to always out of love of your Christain Beliefs, never speak or act in anyway that would jeapordize your entry into the Lord's Kingdom. That will be enough for your example for you children to see to know the stronger charactor in which they should watch closely for guidence in treating others is you. Yes it is hard to keep ones temper and bite ones tonue when the urge to say words that should not be spoken. Even Jesus lost His temper in the temple.
If you have in the past or do in the future loose controll and say things in ear shot of your children, at some point and time you must appologize and ask them to forgive you for it. This will also let them see you are a big enough person to try to make right a wrong you may have done. This to will teach them they can make a mistake and how to fix it and know that you will love them always no matter what.

Smiles to you because they are contagious and you seem in your posts to need one about now.

Smiles,
Peggiann
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Dennis

Nice to see you stop in, Peggiann. Hope all is ok with you and Leah.

Dennis
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MarcosGirl

Peggiann:
          I have "lost it" a few times around my kids and I have apologized.  I am trying to deal with the intense hate and anger I have inside me for my ex in a positive manner.  Although it is one of the hardest things I have to do, I do try to encourage my kids to respect and love their father.  My ex's parents are religious fanatics.  I consider myself a Christian and I love the Lord, but these people are the type that have the "truth" and any others that are outside of their "mold" are going to burn in hell.  Since the start of the divorce, my ex has suddenly found the same fanatacism that his parents have.  They are constantly telling my kids that I don't have Jesus in my heart and that I am going to hell because 1) I am divorcing an abuser; and 2) I am in love with a transsexual (whom they just see as gay...definitely not our situation!).  I can tell when I sit down to eat with my kids and I ask them to pray with me, they kind of look at me as if to say "do you still pray?"  I just hope that I can be a good Christian example to them.  A real Christian example of unconditional love!

Thanks!
Pam
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