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Started by Anaya, March 03, 2006, 01:54:06 PM

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Anaya

Hi!
you might remember me, last time i've been here we agreed that it would be best to wait until i finish school.
Yet i dont know what to do, hopefully i'll get to University in a year, but wont it be even harder? Will i be able to transition and study hard at the same time? But how am i going to survive another 5 years till i do anything? It's nearly a third of my life!

yes i'm very desperate, but on the other side it would be maybe better to wait some more...
im still confused...

While Sometimes i'm so sure about it, that it is the right thing, other times im not so sure anymore...
I know, that if im a boy, im different than all others i've met, but right now i can't relate so much to girls either, as i have lived differently till now.
I know, that i had always thought about this, that i always have wanted to be a girl and have always wanted to play with the girls.
I don't know if i was or am now lying to myself.
I know there is a reason i want to become a woman and not a man, i know i am kind of girly pretty often.
I don't know the reason.
i lie really well about important things, this fact is hidden by my failed attempts to lie with unimportant things, i lie so well that i don't know what i really felt and feel.
This feeling could be so many things yet i always tell myself it is the feeling i want to live as a female.

i remember thinking to myself, to never forget how horrible childhood really is, so i guess there was something bad, yet i don't know ifit was only this...

One of my first memories is that of my Grandmother asking me if i'd rather been born as a girl. I remember being proud of my winning answer, that i didn't know, i've never been a girl. I know that if i didn't think about it before, that event started all. Yet i don't remember what i thought when i was trying to think of a good answer. I remember thinking about all the adults looking down at me laughing, if i said i'd rather be a girl.
Another memory i have is of watching some program where at some point they talked about a policeman who had surgery and now lives as a woman. i thought of how i too wanted to do that and immediately after i once again thought about laughing adults.

I get told a lot that something i did seemed gay, which actually means that i did something girly.
Also when a friend and i were comparing my age with other classmates (we were in a joking mood, so everything we said would be taken as a joke) i tried to test his reaction to this. we noticed that if we didnt count those who had to repeat a year i would be the oldest. And then i noticed that if i was a girl i would be the oldest of the girls. After this i told him that there would be only one logical solution to this age problem. Surprisingly he seemed to actually take it seriously. I dismissed that thought by saying that i actually meant killing off all older guys which made him get back to our joking mood.
At some point when me a male friend and a female friend were waiting for lunch break to end, those friends were talking about something, i was mentioned, and then the girl looked at me and said that she had completely forgotten i was a boy, for some reason.

I still havent got clothes of my own, i dont even know where i could hide them. So i have still got to wear my moms clothes... last days i've been left alone at home, i could have worn the clothes, and i did, but after some time it felt... wrong i guess... it didn't make me feel any better, just worse... i think it might be because i didn't do anything different , i was just wearing different clothes. My guess is that what i need is to go out and be treated as a woman, some social interaction. I do like to see myself in the mirror dressed like a woman, yet i don't look like one, so i won't go out this way.

Another thing is sexual orientation... somehow people give a big deal about it... they always want to know. I'm not sure about me, i might be anything, at the moment i don't really care, i just want someone to be with me someone to support me, someone to hold on to. Because of this i would say i'm bisexual, but i really don't think of "whom i feel atracted to" as important. But seriously, i think i have a crush on a guy... damn

My life itself is bad anyways, or s a friend said "it sucks". And it's my fault in cases like me staying always at home, not going to discos or parties. I don't like being at parties, i don't drink i don't smoke, mostly it's just with some guys and they just show me more and more why i don't to be the same sex as them. My Parents don't help alot either, they want to much of me don't have any tolerance and comprehension, seem to be homophobe, treat me if i was still young (basically they don't let me do anything), think i'm irresponsible (while im most likely one of the most responsible of my collegues at school), dont care about anything except me having the best grades at school and they even already called me crazy and mentally retarded... and they wonder why i never talk about my feelings with them....
I feel like crying but i can't.
The only private place i got isn't my room, but the bathroom, where i can't spend much time as that would be weird.
I try to forget things, unleash my feelins in games, in rpgs, in shooters, yet i can't even get some rest by doing that, because my mother is always there bigging me about this and that, always complainign, never satisfied.
I can help my parents at whatever i want, but they never will recognize that i help at home for free unlike some people i know...
Something i rarely get is recognition about my accomplishments, thats why when someone actually tells me i did well i have to show off to get the others to recognize it too... Or go through games after finishing them and talk to people to hear them congratulate me for saving the world once again...

even the psychologist i went too told my parents i had low self-esteem, yet no one seems to help me with it just make it worse...

im so desperate, i went about trying to find an answer in things like esoterism and other stuff like that... for example when looking back to it, it was a series of events who led me here. what i mean is, i never searched for "transexualism" it all came to me, and i think if one of those events wouldn't have happened (things that even don't have anyhthing to do with this) i would have never searched...
also the only friend i told about my worries thought she could ask her aunt to do one of those star horoscope things where you have to tell the exact place and time you've been born. Well she didn't tell her aunt much, just that i want to be a woman. That convinced her aunt to do that for free. It surprised me how accurate it was, so maybe there might be some truth behind it.
But the part that concerns my problems is mainly this:
She asked me if i believe that we are reborn. I said i didn't know. She said that we are born with characteristics which are either remnants of past lifes or just born with us, and those characteristics are all (or almost all) female, which would explain some things. So apparently i've been female in all my past lifes except thise one, yay. Yet supposedly my mission in life would be to be a man, at least all signs pointed to that... not yay.
don't know what to make of this but i won't base any decision on it.

after so long, i still worry about this being wrong, if i make a mistake i'll be always remembered as the man who thought he was a woman... im afraid, and wont be able to talk again with full conviction with my parents. Well i could use a technique i use, about it could also lead me to undesirable consequences... it mainly consists about not caring about the consequences, just about the now.

i'm desperate and afraid. i don't want to wait, yet i must.

sorry for writing so much, i don't even think i've written all that is eating me from inside, but i know you'll listen and are ready to help. You are the only people that can understand what i'm going through...
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Shelley

Hi Anaya,

For many of us it is still confusing into our adult lives for some of us we find a point that we are comfortable with. Be not to keen to rush forward and make decisiions. You may find that rushing makes them wrong for you. Take your time explore your feelings and find out what is right for you. It is you who must be satisfied with you decisions not father time. It may seem from where you are that five years is a long time but really looking back from where I am it's only a small period of time. Remember that taking time over decisions now means that you won't be stuck with a wrong decision for a much longer time.

Shelley
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Kimberly

2 years turns in to 5 years turns into...

At some point you have to figure out who exactly you are and what you can do to be happy. ... How long do you wait and at what cost? ... That is what you need to figure out now, which is of more value to you overall, to wait or not. Then figure out if the better of the two is even possible for you.

Also, It is probably worth reminding your parents...

Regardless I am still in favor of building the groundwork now, perfect the voice, do electrolysis, chat with the therapists. Have you had any luck finding a gender aware therapist yet?

Quote from: Anaya on March 03, 2006, 01:54:06 PM...
Will i be able to transition and study hard at the same time?
...
For what it is worth I have found my cognitive process to work better since I began transition. Perhaps it is simply less worries on my mind.

Shelley is correct however in that 5 years is a drop in the hat. 1/6th of my life... I know, it doesn't seem it while your living it.


Hang in there and start really thinking, you need to find some answers and make some decisions...

P.s. This life, the one I cam currently living, I was supposed to be and planed to be male. Well, tough cookies, I'm NOT! I think you'll find life has many junctions, some take you to places unplanned.
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rana

hey Anaya :)

What Shelley has said makes so much sense.  I reckon that while you may be confused you are not really desperate (that assumes running out of options & time).

Myself at your age my mantra was. "I do not want to be a woman, I am not gay, homosexuals disgust me, these are perverted thoughts I am having, I will repress all this even thou it keeps reoccurring).  So you see worried as you are, there are states that can be worse :(

What I would do if I had my time again would be to sit & think "What do I really want to do/be?" Then I would draw a plan & timeline about how to achieve this.

Transition is a last step and is filled with all sorts of stresses, you dont need them if you are going to University.  It wont turn you into a woman (in that genetically you will always be XY and you wont be able to have children) all it will do is prevent you ever being a man in appearance - note the statistics of suicide for men who have gone through transition & found its not what they expected & cannot go back.

Go to University and get a degree in a field that will give you the latitude and opportunity to transition later.  There are occupations that are very conventional and the pressure to conform is high.  eg IT I think is good,  banking & finance (unless you were an expert in some specialised field is ungood).

You will need to sound & move like a woman, so learn to sing, join an acting group - these will give you the skills to be able to apply later. Setting the groundwork :)

Eventually you will be able to move into a flat of your own.  There you will be able to get the degree of privacy you need  to practice such arts as makeup, dressing.  There are other things but you get the idea :)  work to a plan not just do things & expect everything to sort itself out.

Anyway, thats what I would have done (short of transition)  then I would somehow have tried to marry my wife & convince her that it was OK to go out with a cool cross dressing chick   (two chances :(   ).

One thing you said that really strikes a chord is "recognition for accomplishments"  that brings back so much all the hurt & angst of my school days.  I did not have the upper body strength, did not seem to take direction and was always passed over for sports teams. Talk about blows to my self esteem.

What I did find out much later was that I have agility & endurance - I was a really good squash player, geez it did my heart so much good to thrash at squash examples of that type of male who lorded over me at games such as football or cricket.  Also I got immersed in spearfishing, was a dangerous occupation, but the feeling afterwoods was so good :)  as calming as cross dressing.

Anya, I note that Kimberly just posted while I was composing - said things so much better than I  (like always)

Listen to her & Shelley :)

rana




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Anaya

Quote from: Kimberly on March 03, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
2 years turns in to 5 years turns into...
thats exactly it, im afraid it will go on and on and on.

i'm always thinking about it, im always teying to see whats the best thing to do. Yet i never come to a definite solution, one day i see that it is the only way out, and other times im not so sure (actually i think for now its better this way, gives me another reason to wait)

thing is i already know about all this, i could lead a "normal" teenage life, yet i don't, and as time passes i get older and will never be able to repeat those first 20 years of life. I know i should lead this normal teenage life even without transitioning, but after every party i go, i come depressed home...

btw. im trying to train my voice, not having parents at home for a week actually helps a lot  ;D. Well my voice will need a lot more training.. also for now i wont need any electrosys. just got a light moustache thingy, i shave it, and i'll be good for a week or two, last time i shaved it was about a month ago. Also no i didn't find any therapist im still hoping to go to germany for university and find there someone.

actually fun thing, my life is divided in parts of five years. well first some 3 years here, then i lived in germany for 5 years then in switzerland for 5 years, and then again back in my country till now 5 years, and the last 5 years part didnt seem like much, looking back...

shame i have always been so tolerant with everything, while everyone around is so homophobe and intolerant, and if i try to show people how wrong they are then they call me gay, which i slowely suspect isn't really that wrong...

i know it wont turn me into a woman, thats what i'm trying to figure out now, "am i a really a woman or just really feminine?"

i've never been good at sports, im only good at dodging things, like fast balls. Everyone knows that, and that's not even so bad, because none of my friends like sports either. It's more in other stuff... that i'm helpful, that i'm really good at school (dammit i've got the best grades in maths and one of the best in physics, and some years ago i was one of the best at almost everything, although my parents never really aknowledged that)

it does feel good to be able to talk to people
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randy80_80

Hi everybody,

I am randy and I just joined the group, I have been reading a lot of the forums at susan's. What I would like to say is I so much identify with Anaya. I never thought someone could be so similar to what I am. The only difference being I think I am much older than Anaya (i am 24, almost out of university). I am having the exact same feelings, frustrations, dilemma and wanting to be a woman but then again do I really want to. I have never spoken to anyone about it and that is what is killing me. The community I come from, this would be toatlly unacceptable and given the state of low self esteem I am at, I do not think I could handle it. Everything that I do has a state of confusion in it, influenced by this damn feeling of being a woman. Why cant i be just normal like all my friends, why do I feel I am different? I have no answer.

One issue that I wanted an answer for would be, are there any effeminate physical characteristics that makes one a transsexual? I say this because one think that draws me towards being a woman is that have extremely slender arms like a women and round hips. Very light body hair (even at this age). Does this mean anything? Could this be one of the deciding factors or a persons orientation? i just dont understand what really makess a male effeminate??


I really hope to get some replies and talk to some people, since this i believe is the only place i can speak freely and seek advice.
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Cassandra

Hey Randy,

Women can have male physical characteristics and vice versa. That in and of itself does not make some one transexual. It is possible they may be intersexed to a minor degree. You should find yourself a counselor to talk to. Also as you should check out the WIKI, you may find some answers there as well. There are lots of posts by other people who share your experience and we are a freindly bunch. So fix yourself a cup of tea or other relaxing beverage sit down take your shoes off and set a spell.

Good Journey,

Cassie
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HelenW

"...am i a really a woman or just really feminine?"

Anaya, Randy,

A few weeks ago my therapist asked me just that question, after I told him that I was expressing my femininity more often through gestures and body language and he said that these things were roles, acts, that society judges as feminine.  He asked me, why I was doing these things.

That question needed some serious thought and I took a few days to consider it and I remembered something that I decided many years ago.  I had read a book that mentioned gendered souls, who not necessarily chose to live in bodies that were the same gender.  While the validity of a gendered soul is a subject for the spirituality forum the idea gave me a way of thinking about who I am, deep inside.  It gave me a framework to think about who is doing the acting rather than what the act was.

I decided years ago that, yes, I was, from all my various experiences and feelings, a female soul in a man's body.  And while that did not really push me towards transition at the time it did allow me to feel that what I did stemmed from who I was and therefore, not a bad thing no matter what people said.  I still kept my cross dressing secret because I knew the damage that others would cause if they found out but I lost my shame and guilt over it.

The decision over what I was and what I should do about it was a very private and personal one.  I think everyone needs to do this, some do it more conciously than others but somewhere along the line people have to identify themselves to themselves and then go about living with their identity.  We are all aware of the costs of living contrary to our identity so the issue has more prominence in our lives.  It's a real struggle but you'll need to decide who and what you are and how much you are willing to go against expectations to live the way you feel.  And you'll have to decide how much of the cost of going against expectations you are willing to pay because, as you may have found out already, the costs can be quite high.  But the rewards are there too.  I'm slowly finding that out for myself.

It's wonderful that you can explore these issues and make these decisions assisted with information that was never available to people in the past.  Your lives are just beginning and you have many years ahead of you to form them to the shape you want them to be.  Have faith in yourselves that the decision will be the right one for you at the time that you make it and then allow yourselves to change your mind later, if need be.  You'll have plenty of chances.

helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

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Terra

Anaya, Randy,

First, there is no set gridwork as to what causes or marks a transexual. Every person who goes through this has come from a different background or history. Mine is an example of this. I grew up with two loving parents, both of wich are extremily intelligent. (But poor spellers, its genetic! ;P) I really was well off as I never had to worry to much about my life financially. I wasn't spoiled, but I wasn't for want either.

Now I'm leaving the military and half way across the continent from them. Both hate the idea of what i'm about to start. Both are trying to change my mind almost daily. I also won't be getting financial aid from them in any form.

But because I took the time to plan before I leaped, I still have the finances to find a place and look for a few jobs, if i'm careful I have at least 3 months. I can do this because even with all the pain of being stuck as I am, survival comes first.


Now I know that life story isn't what you were asking for, but as I said, its to show two things. First, you really don't want to burn bridges, and you don't want to be standing on them if you do. Make sure you arn't dependent on your parents for your college before you hand this to them. If you do, then they can use it to influence your life. Its up to you if you can do a transition and college degree at the same time. But as anyone who has tried for one or has one can tell you, it isn't easy in itself and it will take vasts amount of time from you.

My second point is directed at your worry of time. Yes, statistically speaking hormones do become increasingly ineffective as you get older, but remember the price tag associated with it. If you don't have the finances lined up to cover it, what good is it to worry about obtaining them? There are plenty of things beside hormones you can start that won't draw to much attention to yourself and help you to transition. Try practicing sitting with your legs together for instence, lot harder then it looks to break that nasty boy habit.  ;)

I'm not trying to discourage you, the fact that you both are willing to come forward and start asking hard questions about your life and its direction is more then most people would ever do. Keep your chin up, and keep moving forward. Just remember, you WILL get there someday, just make sure you are ready for it.
"If you quit before you try, you don't deserve to dream." -grandmother
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Anaya

hi, me again, after some months  ;D
life hasn't been too good to me (well life doesn't want me to become a spoiled brat :P [sarcasm]thank you life![/sarcasm]), but it could be worse.
havent been able to post here for a while, and when i was able, i didn't really know what to write...

Luana you are right, burning bridges isn't good, and what im planning to do is like throwing a lighted match on to a bridge and hope its made of stone and not dry wood...
luckily i dont usually spend too much money, but i dont get much either...

QuoteTry practicing sitting with your legs together for instence, lot harder then it looks to break that nasty boy habit.
not that difficult if you've always been the smallest person in the car and forced to do that because the others cant be so nice and make a little more space for my legs  ;)


Quote"...am i a really a woman or just really feminine?"
im actually quoting myself  :P
about that one, well some months doesn't seem much to get farther with that, but, well  i've been thinking. What i feel right now isn't really useful, with all the infos i've got now i can tell myself that what i'm feeling means that i want to be a woman. Seriously, i might actually be a crossdresser who doesn't want to accept that and wants to go all the way! or im some kind of fetishist who doesn't aknowledge that, i can be.. well dunno. But from what i can say for sure from what i feel right now is, that crossdressing in private doesnt do it... i dont care about wearing the clothes (although they ARE nice ::)) it's about the social interaction, it's about going out and show people that im a woman and proud of it (kind of difficult to show that with a male body).
Also past Memories arent that useful either, some are blurry and in some i'm not even sure what i thought at that time. What i was searching for are memories where i'm completely sure of what i did and what i was thinking, and i found them, also i didn't find any where i said or thought that i was happy to be a boy  :P. Well that helps me in deciding what to do!

what seems to be still worrying me (apart of being in a position of a secure future) is my passability. It seems almost impossible to pass with the body i have right now as a girl. Everything about me (except hair length and strength, but that doesnt matter as there are a couple others with longer hair or few muscles) just screams out "boy". I know i shouldn't worry that much, but... well...
Also, i have been brought up as a boy and have been trying to get rid of anything which could have been considered girlish, and now, i dont know, i would love to be the girl i think i am, but end up just becoming "that boy who thinks he is a girl". How can i get rid of all those male habits i aqcuired while trying to fit in, and how do i get those female characteristics back that i dumped in the process?

sorry if somethiong doesnt seem to make sense or if im repeating myself, or whatever there is wrong in this post, but i had some tiring 1-2 days...



p.s. and a fun fact: in 6 months (1 day less than 6 months actually) i'll be 18 and free to do almost everything i want without parental consent (as long as i have the money, and the time, and the support and etc.), yay!
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Melissa

Hi Anaya.  I'm a currently in transition. 

It sounds like you've been doing a lot of soul searching.  Good for you.  I did that back when I was first coming to terms with this and I believe that to be a very valuable period of adjustment.  I thought that was interesting that you said you don't remember ever being happy being a boy.  This is something I had never thought about myself, but it does ring true.

About passability, I don't know what you look like, so I can't exactly comment, but I know for myself, when I started I thought I would never be passable.  Well, I think I was just being hard on myself, because passing has never been a problem for me.  (You know you're passing well, when you have a bunch of straight guys hitting on you.  ::) )  My belief is that if you can get the voice down and you still look like a "guy in a dress", you can pass anyways.  By the way, if you're still 17, then there is a lot that you have to work with in terms of looking more feminine.  Your body is still developing and you are at an ideal age to start with making changes.

About getting rid of the habits, some poeple have to and some people are just suppressing their natural tendancy to use their feminine habits.  If you are the former, then it's just something to work at over time.

All that being said, I wouldn't let your personal opinion of youself be the barrier that stops you, but I would continue your soul searching.  You really need to look at what your heart tells you and not necessarily only what logic dictates.  I find it to be an accurate gauge that doesn't lead me astray.

Melissa
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Annie Social

First, I'll get out of the way the thing that I'm sure you're sick of hearing: You're young, you have plenty of time! It's true, but I know it doesn't really help you feel any better about yourself now.

If I were in your position, I would spend the time between now and starting college doing all those little little things that make such a difference: working on your voice, un-learning male behaviors, and so on. I would also work hard at getting into a large college with a reputation for diversity, both academic and otherwise.

Once college begins, it should be possible to find a counselor or therapist within the university system who can help you work out for yourself what you want and need. If you come to believe that transition may be in your future, a therapist can be instrumental in obtaining hormones; if things are unsure, you could always start with an androgen blocker to prevent further changes from testosterone. This would eliminate the 'running out of time' problem, allowing you to work on the issues without feeling rushed.

I would also think about career choices; I think a freelance artist might have an easier time than a cublicle worker, and somehow I can't imagine a male stripper being allowed to transition on the job!

There have been many days that I have felt my own efforts to transition were stalled, going nowhere, and these feelings can be really depressing. I've found the best way of dealing with them is to simply make sure I accomplish one positive step each day, whether it's practicing my voice for 20 minutes, observing genetic women and how they interact, or writing about myself in my blog and by doing so gaining a better understanding of myself. No day needs to be truly wasted.

Annie
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Melissa

Quote from: Annie Social on May 27, 2006, 11:53:10 AM
There have been many days that I have felt my own efforts to transition were stalled, going nowhere, and these feelings can be really depressing. I've found the best way of dealing with them is to simply make sure I accomplish one positive step each day, whether it's practicing my voice for 20 minutes, observing genetic women and how they interact, or writing about myself in my blog and by doing so gaining a better understanding of myself. No day needs to be truly wasted.

Annie, it just amazes me how similar our views on transition are.  What you described above is exactly how I "deal" with it.  We are at very similar points in our transition (a short ways before RLT) and you keep saying stuff I'm thinking, but haven't posted.

Melissa
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Annie Social

It's easy, Melissa... I just follow you around in here and type really fast! ;)

Annie
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Elizabeth

Anaya and Randy,

I think we all go through this confusion, and at times I still wonder if really I am just insane.  Am I really a girl in a man's body?  I think there is enough evidence to support the notion that something either goes wrong invetro, where the mother does not have enough testosterone when the brain is formed to form a male brain, or some other conditioning occurs before we become self aware, that causes us to feel that we are girls in men's/boy's bodies.

Once it has happened, for whatever the reason turns out to be, it seems that there is really no changing it. While there are some documented cases of people with GID(gender identity disorder) being "cured" and not having the need or desire to present as women, the numbers are so small and the methods for achieving this so unreliable, that mental health professionals have really given up on the idea of changing us.  Treatment for GID mean, acceptance.

When I was your age, I am now 44, I was in the same predictament as you.  I felt the same and was just as confused.  I was on my own, working as an electrical apprentice, had no support system from my parents or anyone else.  I had to support myself.  At that time, I could see no possible way that I could transition.  I could not see how I could work and transition.  I was living in Houston, then Los Angeles and I just could not imagine how it could have been possible, and I have to tell you, I lived alone, there was no internet yet, and I thought about it a lot.  I was not aware of the vast number of people like me, I was not aware of transsexual organizations.  I thought I was a freak, and I was alone.

Having said all of that, I only have one real regret. That regret was that I did not come out of the closet back then, face what I had to, and transition my life.  It does not get easier as time goes by.  It gets harder.  I waited and suppressed it.  I got married, had children, got a mortgage, payments on cars, lots of time invested in pensions.  All these things make it much more difficult to transition later.  There were more people counting on me, much more to lose.  I ended up running my own Electrical contracting company, became a Master Electrician.  I was in business with my brother, I was making a lot of money.  From all outward appearances I had a great life.  I had four kids, all good kids, smart, never in trouble, not angry at the world.

Only problem was, I hated myself and I hated my life.  I thought about killing myself everyday.  I had sold out who I was and the person I was to become, so I could make a great life for everyone but me.  My now exwife had found out about my crossdressing about a year into our marriage and it was a source of great friction all during our marriage.  We ended up growing apart and just going through the motions of being a married couple.  I am sure we looked quite happy to the outside world.

Then my world crumbled.  The recession started in Wyoming in 1999 when the pacific rim went into recession. By early 2000 my business went under when our phones just stopped ringing and no one was doing any work.  I moved back to Los Angeles and went back to work as an electrician.  In less than six months I was a General Forman, which is as high as you can go in the Union. I was making over 90K a year plus good benefits.  So why did I still hate my life and myself?

In 2001, what had been just leg and shoulder pain before had escalated. I was in severe pain most of the time, and had incredible anxiety, was severely depressed and had not slept more than 2-4 hours a night in over ten years. By the spring of 2002 I felt like my body was giving out on me and was really worried being the only bread winner.  I told my then wife that I thought I was only going to be able to work a few more years. But by November 2002, I was in such bad shape I had to stop working.  I was finally, after more than 15 years of doctors telling me they could not explain my pain, diagnosed with Fibromyalgia.

My exwife went to work and I went on disability. Our distance was now apparent.  The day I went on disability, she stopped having sex with me.  It would turn out that she had been having an affair since early in 2001.  2003 was a disaster year.  I was in really bad shape and had to spend a great deal of time in bed or on the couch laying down. We were forced to move into a small apartment and space was cramped.  Me and my exwife did nothing but fight.  She accused me of faking my illness and expected me to take care of everything, all housework, shopping, laundry you name it. I tried, but it was impossible.  I made my children, several who are older now, help out.  This also angered her.  By spring 2004 I was pretty certain my exwife was having an affair.

I went online and tried to do some research on transsexualism and found an article by Gianna Israel.  She said that the first thing she tells all her clients is to get in touch with their own peer group.  That they knew way more about it than her, and they could help much more than she could. So I started searching, did some lurking at some forums, and found a place I felt comfortable.

I had lost my job, I had lost my house, I had lost my pension, I had lost my business, I had lost my health, and it was apparent my marriage was over. All the things I was afraid I would lose if I came out of the closet, I had already lost.  My exwife had outted me to my brother and former business partner and I knew it was only a matter of time before everyone knew anyway, so I just came out to everyone I know. By July 2004 I had thrown my exwife out and filed for divorce, with my 13 year old and 17 year old sons wanting to stay with me, even knowing I was a transsexual. In August 2004, I went full time.

I am now back in college getting a degree in Sociology, and live my life totally as a female, although I am not on hormones because I can not afford to see a gender therapist. I figure in time I will go back to work, get the money and get on hormones and SRS if that is where it leads me. I have since met and remarried a woman that only knows me as Elizabeth and not only totally accepts me, but has encouraged me to do things like accept I was too bald, and get a wig, and to wear breastforms, so I would attract less attention.  Both of which turned out to be very sage advice.

I feel very happy now, but often wonder how things would have been had I just had the courage to face it earlier.  I want to be clear about one thing, when I was your age and decided I was going to repress it, I really honestly beleived I was going to take this secret(that I was really a girl)to the grave with me.  Instead I had a very unhappy and unfulfilled life because I always knew inside that I was not doing what I wanted and I was living for everyone but me.

Take care in your decision, only you know the real truth about you.  Psychologists do not tell us we are transsexual, we tell them. It is all about what you beleive you are.

This is who I beleive I am.



Love always,
Elizabeth
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asiangurliee

Quote from: Elizabeth on May 27, 2006, 10:37:05 PM
Anaya and Randy,

I think we all go through this confusion, and at times I still wonder if really I am just insane.  Am I really a girl in a man's body?  I think there is enough evidence to support the notion that something either goes wrong invetro, where the mother does not have enough testosterone when the brain is formed to form a male brain, or some other conditioning occurs before we become self aware, that causes us to feel that we are girls in men's/boy's bodies.

Once it has happened, for whatever the reason turns out to be, it seems that there is really no changing it. While there are some documented cases of people with GID(gender identity disorder) being "cured" and not having the need or desire to present as women, the numbers are so small and the methods for achieving this so unreliable, that mental health professionals have really given up on the idea of changing us.  Treatment for GID mean, acceptance.

When I was your age, I am now 44, I was in the same predictament as you.  I felt the same and was just as confused.  I was on my own, working as an electrical apprentice, had no support system from my parents or anyone else.  I had to support myself.  At that time, I could see no possible way that I could transition.  I could not see how I could work and transition.  I was living in Houston, then Los Angeles and I just could not imagine how it could have been possible, and I have to tell you, I lived alone, there was no internet yet, and I thought about it a lot.  I was not aware of the vast number of people like me, I was not aware of transsexual organizations.  I thought I was a freak, and I was alone.

Having said all of that, I only have one real regret. That regret was that I did not come out of the closet back then, face what I had to, and transition my life.  It does not get easier as time goes by.  It gets harder.  I waited and suppressed it.  I got married, had children, got a mortgage, payments on cars, lots of time invested in pensions.  All these things make it much more difficult to transition later.  There were more people counting on me, much more to lose.  I ended up running my own Electrical contracting company, became a Master Electrician.  I was in business with my brother, I was making a lot of money.  From all outward appearances I had a great life.  I had four kids, all good kids, smart, never in trouble, not angry at the world.

Only problem was, I hated myself and I hated my life.  I thought about killing myself everyday.  I had sold out who I was and the person I was to become, so I could make a great life for everyone but me.  My now exwife had found out about my crossdressing about a year into our marriage and it was a source of great friction all during our marriage.  We ended up growing apart and just going through the motions of being a married couple.  I am sure we looked quite happy to the outside world.

Then my world crumbled.  The recession started in Wyoming in 1999 when the pacific rim went into recession. By early 2000 my business went under when our phones just stopped ringing and no one was doing any work.  I moved back to Los Angeles and went back to work as an electrician.  In less than six months I was a General Forman, which is as high as you can go in the Union. I was making over 90K a year plus good benefits.  So why did I still hate my life and myself?

In 2001, what had been just leg and shoulder pain before had escalated. I was in severe pain most of the time, and had incredible anxiety, was severely depressed and had not slept more than 2-4 hours a night in over ten years. By the spring of 2002 I felt like my body was giving out on me and was really worried being the only bread winner.  I told my then wife that I thought I was only going to be able to work a few more years. But by November 2002, I was in such bad shape I had to stop working.  I was finally, after more than 15 years of doctors telling me they could not explain my pain, diagnosed with Fibromyalgia.

My exwife went to work and I went on disability. Our distance was now apparent.  The day I went on disability, she stopped having sex with me.  It would turn out that she had been having an affair since early in 2001.  2003 was a disaster year.  I was in really bad shape and had to spend a great deal of time in bed or on the couch laying down. We were forced to move into a small apartment and space was cramped.  Me and my exwife did nothing but fight.  She accused me of faking my illness and expected me to take care of everything, all housework, shopping, laundry you name it. I tried, but it was impossible.  I made my children, several who are older now, help out.  This also angered her.  By spring 2004 I was pretty certain my exwife was having an affair.

I went online and tried to do some research on transsexualism and found an article by Gianna Israel.  She said that the first thing she tells all her clients is to get in touch with their own peer group.  That they knew way more about it than her, and they could help much more than she could. So I started searching, did some lurking at some forums, and found a place I felt comfortable.

I had lost my job, I had lost my house, I had lost my pension, I had lost my business, I had lost my health, and it was apparent my marriage was over. All the things I was afraid I would lose if I came out of the closet, I had already lost.  My exwife had outted me to my brother and former business partner and I knew it was only a matter of time before everyone knew anyway, so I just came out to everyone I know. By July 2004 I had thrown my exwife out and filed for divorce, with my 13 year old and 17 year old sons wanting to stay with me, even knowing I was a transsexual. In August 2004, I went full time.

I am now back in college getting a degree in Sociology, and live my life totally as a female, although I am not on hormones because I can not afford to see a gender therapist. I figure in time I will go back to work, get the money and get on hormones and SRS if that is where it leads me. I have since met and remarried a woman that only knows me as Elizabeth and not only totally accepts me, but has encouraged me to do things like accept I was too bald, and get a wig, and to wear breastforms, so I would attract less attention.  Both of which turned out to be very sage advice.

I feel very happy now, but often wonder how things would have been had I just had the courage to face it earlier.  I want to be clear about one thing, when I was your age and decided I was going to repress it, I really honestly beleived I was going to take this secret(that I was really a girl)to the grave with me.  Instead I had a very unhappy and unfulfilled life because I always knew inside that I was not doing what I wanted and I was living for everyone but me.

Take care in your decision, only you know the real truth about you.  Psychologists do not tell us we are transsexual, we tell them. It is all about what you beleive you are.

This is who I beleive I am.



Love always,
Elizabeth

wow, you went through alot. Thanks for sharing your life story with us.

I also feel the same way, i am not sure if i am a girl or just feminine.. *sigh*
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