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Started by Terra, April 24, 2008, 02:13:11 AM

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What orientation do you identify as based on your gender?

M2F -Straight
32 (25%)
M2F -Gay
20 (15.6%)
M2F -Bisexual
38 (29.7%)
F2M -Straight
9 (7%)
F2M -Gay
9 (7%)
F2M -Bisexual
12 (9.4%)
Androgynous- Man
0 (0%)
Androgynous- Woman
1 (0.8%)
Androgynous- Bisexual
7 (5.5%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Blanche

There's another sexual orientation that is oftentimes ignored.  Asexuality.  I'm an asexual female.
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Terra

Quote from: Blanche on May 04, 2008, 10:13:44 PM
There's another sexual orientation that is oftentimes ignored.  Asexuality.  I'm an asexual female.

I'm not so sure, not to be insulting, but I never read anything that made asexual out to be a sexual orientation. Besides, the people I know to be asexual are still attracted to people depending on their preference, they just don't have sex. Cuddling and kissing however is ok. *shrugs* I apologize if i'm wrong and would welcome any education someone would like to give me.

But the point of this survey was to find out what people are attracted to. if anything, I should have included androgynous, as it is a gender identity. But the results so far have been not quite what I expected, vut then again that is what makes this fun. ;)
"If you quit before you try, you don't deserve to dream." -grandmother
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Shana A

Quote from: Angel on May 05, 2008, 09:38:38 PM
But the point of this survey was to find out what people are attracted to. if anything, I should have included androgynous, as it is a gender identity. But the results so far have been not quite what I expected, vut then again that is what makes this fun. ;)

If you add androgynes, I'll vote  :)

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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DJorgensen

I would be a 5 on the Female side of the Kinsey scale.
Almost all lesbian here....

I like guys, though have never been aroused by them, nor have I ever been successful in dating them (but that's not without trying...)
Women just work incredibly well with and for me :)
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sneakersjay

I haven't dated in about 3 years.  Mostly by choice and by not looking.  I originally answered this and said gay, as my entire life I've been attracted to males.

But:

Over the last several weeks I find myself wondering if I will still feel attracted to men once I've transitioned, and have outwardly become male.  I now wonder if my attraction to males was because they are who i'm supposed to be, and they have what I don't (male genitals).  And now I'm not so sure.

Jay, the confused...

(seeing a new therapist tomorrow.  YAY!!)


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Hypatia

My Kinsey number has been dropping ever since I came out. Currently hovering somewhere between 3 and 4, I guess. Not that I'm about to start dating anyone. I've sworn off sex until post-op.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Melissa

I'm bisexual myself.  I've now been in relationships with both women and a guy.  I used to think I wouldn't want to be with an MTF, but I've seen some pretty darn good looking ones, especially on this site.  ;D
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Terra

Quote from: Zythyra on May 05, 2008, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: Angel on May 05, 2008, 09:38:38 PM
But the point of this survey was to find out what people are attracted to. if anything, I should have included androgynous, as it is a gender identity. But the results so far have been not quite what I expected, vut then again that is what makes this fun. ;)

If you add androgynes, I'll vote  :)

Z

New androgynes options now included. Lets see if this affects anything. ;)
"If you quit before you try, you don't deserve to dream." -grandmother
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Shana A

Quote from: Angel on May 08, 2008, 05:03:39 PM
New androgynes options now included. Lets see if this affects anything. ;)

Thanks for adding androgynes Angel!

I voted androgyne, bi... however since there are more than two genders, perhaps I'd really be tri-sexual, quad... hmmm, I kind of like the sound of penta-sexual... or maybe I should just say infinite...  ;D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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DJorgensen

Quote from: Zythyra on May 08, 2008, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Angel on May 08, 2008, 05:03:39 PM
New androgynes options now included. Lets see if this affects anything. ;)

Thanks for adding androgynes Angel!

I voted androgyne, bi... however since there are more than two genders, perhaps I'd really be tri-sexual, quad... hmmm, I kind of like the sound of penta-sexual... or maybe I should just say infinite...  ;D

Z
By that do you mean pansexual at all?
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Jeannette

Another straight gal here ;)
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offthesidewalk

i chose androgynous bisexual, but i want to mean it in a more emotional kind of way than actual physical. i don't know if that's an option or anything- but it's the closest to what i feel.
*hugs*
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Veetje


I would have liked to be a heterosexual or bisexual girl/woman if I had the choice when reborn

Sadly enough I am an overtly heterosexual "male"(technically)
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Fer

Quote from: Angel on May 05, 2008, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Blanche on May 04, 2008, 10:13:44 PM
There's another sexual orientation that is oftentimes ignored.  Asexuality.  I'm an asexual female.

I'm not so sure, not to be insulting, but I never read anything that made asexual out to be a sexual orientation. Besides, the people I know to be asexual are still attracted to people depending on their preference, they just don't have sex. Cuddling and kissing however is ok. *shrugs* I apologize if i'm wrong and would welcome any education someone would like to give me.

Yes and no.  Asexual peeps aren't sexually attracted to other humans whilst others seek to form relationships with sexual people, homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual as companionship with or without sexual relationships. Notwithstanding the most important thing to realise here is that asexuality is a sexual orientation and is never to be confused with sexual abstinence.  Someone who is celibate is someone who has chosen to abstain from sex. We have not made that choice. Just as the heterosexual didn't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex or the homosexual didn't choose to be attracted to the same sex, neither have we made a choice; it's just the way we have always been.

An old thread that may shed some light on the subject.


Quote from: Fer on April 05, 2007, 06:05:34 AM
People often think I am inter-sexed when I tell them I am asexual. Nothing could be further from the truth.   An asexual is someone who does not experience sexual attraction. Unlike celibacy, which people choose, asexuality is an intrinsic part of who we are. Asexuality does not make our lives any worse or any better, we just face a different set of challenges than most sexual people.

Asexual people have the same emotional needs as anyone else, and like in the sexual community we vary widely in how we fulfill those needs. Some asexual people are happier on their own, others are happiest with a group of close friends. Other asexual people have a desire to form more intimate romantic relationships, and will date and seek long-term partnerships. Asexual people are just as likely to date sexual people as we are to date each other.

Sexual or nonsexual, all relationships are made up of the same basic stuff. Communication, closeness, fun, humor, excitement and trust all happen just as much in sexual relationships as in nonsexual ones. Unlike sexual people, asexual people are given few expectations about the way that our intimate relationships will work. Figuring out how to flirt, to be intimate, or to be monogamous in a nonsexual relationships can be challenging, but free of sexual expectations we can form relationships in ways that are grounded in our individual needs and desires.

Many asexual people experience attraction, but we feel no need to act out that attraction sexually. Instead we feel a desire to get to know someone, to get close to them in whatever way works best for us. Asexual people who experience attraction will often be attracted to a particular gender, and will identify as gay, bi, or straight.

The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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feliciahawthorn

I definitely prefer women but guys prefer me, quite a quandry. If I go to a mixed venue club, I will get hit on by 15 guy and very few women. To me, the female form is sexy. I am only attracted to being with a guy who can enhance my experience as a female. I am not really attracted to his physical form.
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Nero

Quote from: feliciahawthorn on May 11, 2008, 10:43:22 PMI am only attracted to being with a guy who can enhance my experience as a female. I am not really attracted to his physical form.
Interesting. Could you elaborate on that, hon? In what ways can a guy enhance your experience as female? Would like to know, seeing as I'm a guy.  ;)
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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feliciahawthorn

Quote from: Nero on May 11, 2008, 10:56:54 PM
Quote from: feliciahawthorn on May 11, 2008, 10:43:22 PMI am only attracted to being with a guy who can enhance my experience as a female. I am not really attracted to his physical form.
Interesting. Could you elaborate on that, hon? In what ways can a guy enhance your experience as female? Would like to know, seeing as I'm a guy.  ;)

A guy could enhance my female experience by being a gentleman, opening doors, lightly touching but never imposing, being protective, giving honest compliments, treating me with respect, being a good companion in public venues, and by dropping expectations of sex but still flirting.
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Veetje


I think thats a pretty nice explaination

But I would expect the same from women that like me in a relation/sexual way

PErhaps thats odd
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feliciahawthorn

Quote from: Veetje on May 12, 2008, 01:15:15 PM

I think thats a pretty nice explaination

But I would expect the same from women that like me in a relation/sexual way

PErhaps thats odd

I completely agree with this as well. I would also expect the same thing from a woman in terms of mutual respect etc.
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kestin

I could only be with a guy if I'm not a girl... hence why I always used to joke that I was a gay man trapped in a womans body. Then I actually figured out my gender/sexuality issues... which has added way more complication to that statement.

Order of events ;P

As a child - Thought about being wrong gender, came to the conclusion of being a tomboy.
Preteen - Thought about women more, thought that was normal, thought I was actually imagining myself as them instead of wanting them.
(basically in denial or just not realizing)
Teen - Started coming to grips with being bi-sexual, got into yaoi for a while so that confused things more. Greatly enjoyed various straight pairings (they weren't normal ones however like Grissom/Sara lol) geeklove :3
Late teens - Started seriously thinking about sexuality and that I really did prefer women something to 9 times out of 10.
19/20 - Started publically identifying as gay as well as starting to work out gender issues again. Find the term 'androgyne' and is happy for a while. Use the term bisexual since starting to no longer believe in the gender binary system.
Now - Masculine Identified, floating in the area around bi-male, still strongly attracted to women.

Pre-T - I can only imagine being with women. Post-T+top surgery - I could possibly conceive of having a relationship with a guy (preferably trans in some shape or form and otherwise somewhat non-masculine) Ultimately, I'm much more attracted to women than I am to men.

I could not go out with a straight guy because then that would entail they see me as female and I do. not. want.
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