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The Kate Bornstein gender aptitude test

Started by tinkerbell, June 29, 2006, 10:39:53 PM

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You're captain James T Kirk
gender outlaw
gender novice
well gendered
You're captain James T Kirk

NicholeW.

Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 02:14:22 AM
hmm, this test is crud, half the answers i didnt want to give. and it gave no answer that i found suitable. most of it assumed either you were a non trans member of one sex, a bat->-bleeped-<- crazy ->-bleeped-<-, a gender bender, or somewhere near androgyne. i felt it was limiting and confuseing.


R :police:

I can understand why someone might think this, especially if I had thought that the test was going to have been another version of the COGIATI or some softball items that I would have to be a moron in order to not score where I wanted to score.

To tell the truth, Kate devised something I found DID make me think. Yes, some of the questions were circular and even ridiculous. That is the norm for any sort of test of this sort. There are throwaway answers and answers that test my ability to lie well on any profile test I am likely to take.

What I found though, was that I, like Tink, had moved from well gendered (5 or so years ago) to gender outlaw. Hmm, what occurred? I suspect it was the realization that I do not have to answer the right questions any more to show that I am a woman. I just show up and that takes care of itself.

Not only can that be liberating for me; I imagine it is liberating for those I interact with as well.

One of the most curious syndromes I have seen in the TS community is how we often tend to join our own little branch of the gender police once we feel secure in our presentation. Yet, I imagined some doubts often remain and we feel more comfortable with a COGIATI test that allows us to express all the normal stereotypical answers we imagine everyone wants to hear if they are going to accept the validity of what we do/have done.

That may be a simplistic analysis, but I find it the most likely explanation of myself.
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evelynaGR

Gender outlaw with 95....im gonna live? tell me doc?
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Shana A

QuoteGender outlaw with 95....im gonna live? tell me doc?

Evelyna,

Just take two aspirins, or perhaps some chocolate would be better, throw a few apples at the doctor, and I think you'll be fine  ;D

And welcome!

Zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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evelynaGR

thx Zythyra

glad 2 meet u 2

P.S. i want to know who r the 3 freaks!!! grrr im jealous here
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Shana A

QuoteP.S. i want to know who r the 3 freaks!!! grrr im jealous here

According to score I'm one of them ;D, not sure who the other two are

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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evelynaGR

Quote from: Berliegh on August 12, 2007, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 02:14:22 AM
hmm, this test is crud, half the answers i didnt want to give. and it gave no answer that i found suitable. most of it assumed either you were a non trans member of one sex, a bat->-bleeped-<- crazy ->-bleeped-<-, a gender bender, or somewhere near androgyne. i felt it was limiting and confuseing.


R :police:

I totally agree Rachael...

yeap same here.....nonsences
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emmi/andy

I scored as a gender outlaw, which did not surprise me. 

I own a copy of My Gender Workbook, and having read that book makes the quiz make more sense. It is written to be ironic, not to seriously assess your gender. The test shows you how much you believe in our society's rules about gender. Kate Bornstein disagrees with these rules and wrote the questions in a way that makes fun of them, right down to the categories. I hope that helps you understand.  :)
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Suzy

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Louise

I retook this aptitude test and this time I scored a 64.  The last time I scored 81.  I am still a gender outlaw, but am slowly inching toward becoming a gender freak.  I guess that is what happens when I hang around here with the rest of you.   :P

Kate Bornstein is one of the more interesting persons on this planet.
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Seshatneferw

Quote from: evelynaGR on August 12, 2007, 02:42:08 PM
P.S. i want to know who r the 3 freaks!!! grrr im jealous here

That would be Karen (with a score of 42), Zythyra (51) and myself (57). Nyah!  :D

But like the doc said, take a couple of chocolate-covered aspirins and you'll be fine.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Rachael

why does anyone WANT to be a freak or social outlaw? because thats what this test rates, how far off normal are you. you can still be trans and get a score of 0 on this! why celebrate  how f***ed you are?

R :police:
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Rachael on August 13, 2007, 06:51:47 AM
why does anyone WANT to be a freak or social outlaw? because thats what this test rates, how far off normal are you. you can still be trans and get a score of 0 on this! why celebrate  how f***ed you are?

R :police:

    We are F*d in your opinion.  To us it feels right.  I don't understand why some people can not accept that there are those of us who really are not "normal" and we are not ashamed of it.

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Seshatneferw

Yes, what 'e said.

I'm not particularly proud of the score, or celebrating it -- and in fact I think that my low score is at least partly because the choices in the questionnaire were so odd. Still, it's how I deal with my particular brand of GID: I refuse to take sides, especially in terms of social gender. Yes, I realise that in some respects it is giving up, but I sincerely doubt I'd be any happier trying to conform to either set of gender expectations.

The test itself implies that a lower score is better. I don't agree with that, though: what's important is that you are comfortable with the way you see gender, and the test prompts a few thoughts on that. That's all.

Cheers,

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Shana A

Quotewhy does anyone WANT to be a freak or social outlaw? because thats what this test rates, how far off normal are you. you can still be trans and get a score of 0 on this! why celebrate  how f***ed you are?

It isn't about being a "freak" for me, I am who I am, just as you are who you are. Some people in society think all of us are freaks, no matter how "normal" we may try to be. I think that Kate might be using the term freak in a similar way as some LGBT folk have appropriated the term queer.

At any rate, what I'd really like to see is change in societal attitudes, and end of discrimination against trans people, no matter how they might appear. You want to be a "normal" woman, that's wonderful, I support you 100%. I want to be a "normal" androgyne/transgender/in between/neither gender/man in a dress/whatever. We both need to be able to live safely as who we are in this world. If believing this makes me a "freak", so be it, I'll wear my label proudly, and in style too.

Zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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RebeccaFog


Let's fly those freak flags high, Babies!
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deviousxen

I got a 94. Outlaw. I hate having in-between answers on multiple choice tests. Damn bubbles...
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Berliegh

I think it's very sad that these tests are presented. Both the questions and answers were 'airhead' nonsense and it's not something that relates to me in any way.....They are pointless and I didn't find them a source of fun....

I much prefer 'real' topics, and real posts which have some importance..
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RebeccaFog

we're just playing at being grownup.  One day, all of the concepts we've kicked around here may be concepts that finally become real world everyday concepts.  And we'll be ready.


by the way, I can only aspire to be a freak.
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Nero

152 Gender Novice. Some of the questions were confusing though. The test seems to be geared toward cisgendered or genderqueer people. Not TS.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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