How do you feel about going full time?

[RebeccaFog]

I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to. 
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This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs

That last phrase has haunted me for a week.

If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?

And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??

Anyone care to comment?

Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!

Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial."

I believe there are people who like to crossdress some of the time and others who like to crossdress all of the time.
   There is a difference in a crossdresser and a transsexual, in that, the crossdresser may not have serious issues with their body, and, despite presenting as a person of the opposite sex, they still identify as the gender of their birth sex.
   There is also a group of people who are transgendered, but not crossdressers, in that they will live the life of their true gender but without using HRT or surgery. These people do not identify as the gender represented by their birth/body sex and, I believe they are NOT considered crossdressers.

Don't no one kill me if my explanation is weak.   

   Now, down to the point of my initial question;
   I know there are people who crossdress some of the time. I was just wondering if there are any people who would crossdress much more, if not all the time, if there were no bigotries to stop them from doing it.
   I know there are trangendered people who may live full time, but I was wondering if there are people who are willing to crossdress full time even though they do not identify as the gender which they present to others.


I hope I made sense. 

[Lyric]

Transsexuality is about reconciling a person's inner identity with their lifestyle. Crossdressing may be connected to other things going on with a person, but basically, it's just about dressing. You can wear cowboy boots without being a latent bronco buster. I'm not aiming to change my sex because I like to wear a skirt sometimes. It's fun to feel and look feminine, but I AM masculine and I'm cool with that.

There are a lot of ways to be.

-Lyric

[Hiddendress]

If i could go full time, i would love it but i live at home and can only do it when parents are out 

[RebeccaFog]

You should ask your parents to get a place of their own.   



(I'm kidding)

[anouk]

I,m definitely a cd but could easily live full-time lady IF the enviroment would make it far more easier. I'm very shy about these issues, so my feminine side is a absolute secret among my social life.

I think that the distinction between TS and the other trans people is, whether your gender identity contradiction is so hard that it can only be cured by living totally in the gender you regard your own.  So it's not wonder that many cd:s are dreaming of the full-time girly days.

[Nikki]

I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to. 
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs

That last phrase has haunted me for a week.

If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?

And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??

Anyone care to comment?

Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!

Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial."

CD/TS isn't about quantity it's about motivation. Speaking only in terms of genetic males to keep pronouns simple. A CD is a male that dresses like a woman. It doesn't matter if he dresses once a year or full time he is still a man in womans clothes because he identifies as a man. A TS is a woman born with a male body. She only crossdresses when she wears men's clothes. When she's wearing women's clothes she's not crossdressing. Full time refers to how often she presents to the world the gender she feels all the time. CD's are men that want to dress like women. TS are women born with the body of a man. The difference depends on which gender the person identifies as not frequency.

[Constance]

A CD is a male that dresses like a woman. It doesn't matter if he dresses once a year or full time he is still a man in womans clothes because he identifies as a man.

This is one possible take on it.

I am biologically male, but I identify as an androgyne. So when I cross-dress, it's not because I identify at that time as being a man. Likewise, I'm not idendifying as a woman. My identity still remains androgyne.

[Nicky]

I think the boundaries are blurry and identities are not black and white.

It should all come down to self identification. If you need a distinction my personal thought is that a crossdresser is someone that thinks of themselves as a man or woman wearing the clothing of the oposite sex to their gender identity - regardless of whether full time or not.

I'm an androgyne too but I never consider myself to be crossdressed (unless going to a gathering of furies). Though maybe if I wore another androgynes clothes I would be crossdressed? 

[Constance]

I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.

[Nikki]

I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.

IMO the problem is people are smeared all over the map. Any time you try to create a box you include people that don't really fit and exclude people that do. Perfect definitions are impossible but we need some sort of definitions so we can make sense of our world.

[Nicky]

I think one of our myths is that expression closely follows identity. But I don't think this is true. I've meet someone that was a man in a womans body but they did not suffer any dysphoria, had no desire to present as a male or act like one. They did not feel the need. Cross dressers seem to me to be the reverse of this in that they retain an identity that resembles their physical body but have the desire to present as something else. If the need and desire is strong enough they might become transexuals too.

Have you heard the term transgenderist? I've always assumed this is what was meant - a crossdresser that has gone full time?

[Jordan]

I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to. 
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs

That last phrase has haunted me for a week.

If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?

And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??

Anyone care to comment?

Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!

Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial."

Close only difference is that a CD does not feel in any way that there gender identity is female.

IN the case of M to F or a man who wears womans clothing
A non-op TS is a woman who chooses not to have srs

a Full time CD is a man who chooses to present female but has a male gender identity.


The two almost overlap, but they are not interchangable.

[RebeccaFog]

I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.

I'm not trying to define an identity, though. I just want to know if any red blooded CDs would CD full time if it weren't a social issue.

[Jordan]

Being a Full time CD in a way means more or less to me, that they dont nessecarily Crossdress Fulltime, but that they arent afraid to do it when they feel the need in public, work, picking there kids up, but that they revert whenever they feel the need too.

I believe that a member on this site named Barbie considers themselves to be a fulltime CD, in that they wear what they want, when they want, when they feel the need too.

[Constance]

I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.

I'm not trying to define an identity, though. I just want to know if any red blooded CDs would CD full time if it weren't a social issue.

Being an androgyne, I would not cross dress full time. But, that's because I'd find it limiting.

[RebeccaFog]

Being a Full time CD in a way means more or less to me, that they dont nessecarily Crossdress Fulltime, but that they arent afraid to do it when they feel the need in public, work, picking there kids up, but that they revert whenever they feel the need too.

that makes a lot of sense. Maybe full time isn't literally every minute of every day, but whenever the desire is there despite the circumstances such as buying bread or ice skating.

[chrysalis]

Lets just leave CD as a behavior and as a description only of people who exhibit that behavior (though not the reason). People do it for all different reasons, and so defining one group by it is inherently myopic.

In the same way I would then suggest that we define TS as anyone who wants to be another gender regardless of the reason (I'd prefer to redefine TG, but that is, as I understand it, already the umbrella term, so I'm working within the established infrastructure.) TS just has too much absolutism in it for me.

Now here I add that we can reach a better expression of these qualities using a spectrum as opposed to a binary system. So someone could be a 7/10 CD, or a 4/10 TS.

The tricky part is co-morbidity. Can someone be a 10/10 for both?

[Ell]

sometimes maybe crossdressers do it purely for erotic reasons?

yeah, Rebis.

er, i mean, you now have 5 minutes for a rebuttal.

-ell

[Lisbeth]

I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to. 

Is anyone here full time?  If not, Is there anyone here who would gladly go full time if it were perfectly acceptable (as it should be) in society?

I just want to note that I know some people in this category. They use the label "Committed Crossdresser."

[RebeccaFog]

sometimes maybe crossdressers do it purely for erotic reasons?

yeah, Rebis.

er, i mean, you now have 5 minutes for a rebuttal.

-ell

I don't understand.

You lost me too, Ell.   
I'm sure some do it for eroticism, but I'm just interested in seeing people really get out there and be themselves despite how they present.

I like committed crossdresser.  CCD without the bibles