hmm... you think its possibly that im an androgyne?

[JonasCarminis]

im not one thats big on social conformity, tough i did it for a while because i was bullied so bad...  and i strongly dislike a lot of the female parts of my body and i desire to be more masculine.  but... i dont think i'll ever feel like a "real" man.  i dont mind really.  i suppose i feel like i should have a mans body but not necessarily be a man.  and my trans people that may make their way into here, im definitely still trans.  lol 

[Kinkly]

you could be read around & ask questions

[Simone Louise]

If you're being bullied, check with Jaimie, the Protector, good with whips, will travel, and highly recommended. >

Welcome, glad you're here,
S

[Shana A]

im not one thats big on social conformity, tough i did it for a while because i was bullied so bad...  and i strongly dislike a lot of the female parts of my body and i desire to be more masculine.  but... i dont think i'll ever feel like a "real" man.  i dont mind really.  i suppose i feel like i should have a mans body but not necessarily be a man.  and my trans people that may make their way into here, im definitely still trans.  lol 

I think it's possible to want a man's body and not feel that you're a man. I want more female characteristics but still believe I'm not either binary gender. But i'm not happy living as a man, so am moving in a different direction.

Z

[JonasCarminis]

that sounds about right Z.  and lol simone, luckily, im not being bullied any more.

[Nero]

It happens. A lot of androgynes believed themselves transsexual at one time. Body and/or social dysphoria is not limited to binary transsexuals either.

[Jaimey]

If you're being bullied, check with Jaimie, the Protector, good with whips, will travel, and highly recommended. >

Welcome, glad you're here,
S

You rang? 

i dont think i'll ever feel like a "real" man.  i dont mind really.

I know that feeling...(though I'm keeping the female bits, more out of convenience than love of them)

[Simone Louise]

Jaimie, the Protector

Jaimey, please accept my apology for the typo.

S

[JonasCarminis]

i really dont like my boobs and long to have a male body.  but the gender.. im pretty dang sure i fall somewhere in the middle.

[Jaimey]

No worries, Simone!  I knew who you meant (that colorful description...heh).

I'm pretty oblivious to my body...I have very "eh " feelings about it.  I would have preferred to be born into a male body though.  I just don't have what it takes to change it...that takes way more courage than I have.  And I like men and I want to have kids so, I can live with it (though I've certainly had my bouts with dysphoria and wanting a male body).

[Elwood]

It happens. A lot of androgynes believed themselves transsexual at one time. Body and/or social dysphoria is not limited to binary transsexuals either.

Yeah. I met a wonderful androgyne who once thought they were a transwoman. But now they're just a "Child of God," I think they called it. Haha. I really liked meeting them.

I used to think I might be androgyne. In fact, I might be able to cope with my body if I had only top surgery and that was it. But I also know I'd be a lot happier if I had T done as well... and was addressed as a guy... yeah, I'm still pretty sure I'm FtM, or at least more male than androgynous, you know? It's possible to be a, uh, "moderate male." Haha. What an oxymoron.

[Jasmine]

im not one thats big on social conformity, tough i did it for a while because i was bullied so bad...  and i strongly dislike a lot of the female parts of my body and i desire to be more masculine.  but... i dont think i'll ever feel like a "real" man.  i dont mind really.  i suppose i feel like i should have a mans body but not necessarily be a man.  and my trans people that may make their way into here, im definitely still trans.  lol 

Perhaps, but men do vary.. I mean there are nerds, gays, machos, metrosexuals.. all men.

For me, I beleive in the 'gender spectrum' and so if you 'feel' completely in the middle, but want to have a man's body, then I think that in itself weights it to the male side.

Perhaps a "real man" is also one that can accept his little feminine side?

When I was accepting my transsexuality I remember telling my brother that I was an androgyne, then things unfolded and now I know I'm an M2F (and so does everyone else lol) For me, I think, because i've had to live like the opposite sex for so long that I created a character and it has been taking a while to wash out. I sometimes see myself as the old character and I also have thought that maybe i'm androgynous or bi-gender or gender fluid etc.. But I think it's just the confusion of leaving behind the familiar character you know so well. Remember that 'Genetic boys' have 18+ years to become men..

My opinion is that both F2Ms and M2Fs are mentally younger than a person who was born into their target sex. Without the right hormones, the brain just couldn't develop fully..

I was also diagnosed at 25 as having a protracted puberty, by my endocrinologist, and I still don't feel like an adult. I know an intersexed person who also feels much younger than his/her age.

K that's enough from me, i'll get down off my soap box! good luck!

[RebeccaFog]

Hi Chett,

You could be androgyne, but only you can make that decision.  Hang around and see how you end up feeling after some time.

[Elwood]

im not one thats big on social conformity, tough i did it for a while because i was bullied so bad...  and i strongly dislike a lot of the female parts of my body and i desire to be more masculine.  but... i dont think i'll ever feel like a "real" man.  i dont mind really.  i suppose i feel like i should have a mans body but not necessarily be a man.  and my trans people that may make their way into here, im definitely still trans.  lol

Perhaps, but men do vary.. I mean there are nerds, gays, machos, metrosexuals.. all men.

For me, I beleive in the 'gender spectrum' and so if you 'feel' completely in the middle, but want to have a man's body, then I think that in itself weights it to the male side.

Perhaps a "real man" is also one that can accept his little feminine side?

When I was accepting my transsexuality I remember telling my brother that I was an androgyne, then things unfolded and now I know I'm an M2F (and so does everyone else lol) For me, I think, because i've had to live like the opposite sex for so long that I created a character and it has been taking a while to wash out. I sometimes see myself as the old character and I also have thought that maybe i'm androgynous or bi-gender or gender fluid etc.. But I think it's just the confusion of leaving behind the familiar character you know so well. Remember that 'Genetic boys' have 18+ years to become men..

Seriously. I am no "manly man." And I probably never will be.

I still enjoy beauty and class. I like frailty in men and even in myself. I just don't want to be so frail that I'm beautiful in a female way. I love to sing and dance and I love fashion. I don't strut about being macho or tough or anything, though I do have a side of me that likes to be a classic ->-bleeped-<- sometimes. Not just any ->-bleeped-<-, but one of those ->-bleeped-<-s that somehow manages to be funny while they're being an ->-bleeped-<- (at least this is what people tell me).

For a long time in my childhood I told my mom, "Why would anyone want to change their body? Why can't they just be a person (androgyne)?" Well, I later understood what body dysphoria was, and that being unisex or no sex just wasn't enough for me. My gender identity has a lot more to do with my person than stereotypes. It has to do with how I envision my body and my person as a general package.

I'm not one of those transguys who talks deep, buffs up, hits on girls and tries to put on some manshow. The manliest thing I've ever done was perform scenes from Hamlet, and Hamlet is quite the Shakespearian pussy. The point is, yes, I'd like a masculine body. But am I looking out to be a lumberjack? Hell no. I do like construction and mechanics, though...  Fixing cars and building houses is a so much fun and I don't know why it bored me so much when I was little.

[Pica Pica]

i played petruchio once. he's a manly arsehole. Good fun to do.

[Elwood]

i played petruchio once. he's a manly arsehole. Good fun to do.

Haha. I've played Tybalt, but he's a little ->-bleeped-<-. I really end up playing the guys who spit a lot (Hamlet has got to be one of the characters that spits the most, for serious).

[Nero]

I'm a manly man but I also display a lot of feminine characteristics. I'm an extreme man - ridiculously macho and ridiculously femmy at the same time.

But yeah, like Elwood, I don't need to flout my machismo. I'm secure in my manhood to just be me.

[Elwood]

I find it hard to be manly when I'm so small and weak. So I end up doing things that I can, which I guess aren't so manly. Maybe T will change me.

[Nero]

I find it hard to be manly when I'm so small and weak. So I end up doing things that I can, which I guess aren't so manly. Maybe T will change me.

well, i don't know a whole lot about you but maybe you're just a classic twink which carries it's own brand of masculinity and even dominance. twinks rule.

[Elwood]

I find it hard to be manly when I'm so small and weak. So I end up doing things that I can, which I guess aren't so manly. Maybe T will change me.

well, i don't know a whole lot about you but maybe you're just a classic twink which carries it's own brand of masculinity and even dominance. twinks rule.

Haha! A twink!

Well, I think I might be somewhere around there post transition. But I also want to be able to look masculine when I want to. I won't be the type of guy who gets full body waxes... -shudder-