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Started by Nero, September 01, 2008, 07:57:07 PM

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Jack Daniels

Quote from: Shades O'Grey on September 03, 2008, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on September 03, 2008, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
women were born to be sexually passive in every way of the word
My experience with women, albeit limited, has been quite the opposite.

Well, no matter how you look at it, she ie still getting "screwed", and she may be aggressive about it, but then that s just being aggressively passive. Because thier bodies are just...made for that. But now the emotional/ mentally can be completely different and thats not what Im talking about. Mentally, she doesnt/isnt passive, but phyically, with her three holes, she is.
I'm not trying to be a creep, I'm just trying to understand. So, does penetration equal aggression?

Well actually, body wise and body wise only, your body is not passive, penetration can be assertive, or agressive...now I dont necessary mean...umm...letting a girl ride you makes you passive since shes in control, but the foundation of the body, the very fact that it can penetrate leaves room and potential to be aggressive, but girls dont have that option phsyically.NOT saying they cant be in "power" during sex, cause they can but...God damn am I making any sense to you
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Constance

Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 02:31:36 PM
Well actually, body wise and body wise only, your body is not passive, penetration can be assertive, or agressive...now I dont necessary mean...umm...letting a girl ride you makes you passive since shes in control, but the foundation of the body, the very fact that it can penetrate leaves room and potential to be aggressive, but girls dont have that option phsyically.NOT saying they cant be in "power" during sex, cause they can but...God damn am I making any sense to you
Yes, I think you are making sense.

Biologically, women can penetrate, too, using fingers. Not quite the same, I realize, but it seems to me that hands have more potential for aggressiveness than genitals.

But, I think I am beginning to understand.

Lukas-H

Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 02:31:36 PM
Well actually, body wise and body wise only, your body is not passive, penetration can be assertive, or agressive...now I dont necessary mean...umm...letting a girl ride you makes you passive since shes in control, but the foundation of the body, the very fact that it can penetrate leaves room and potential to be aggressive, but girls dont have that option phsyically.NOT saying they cant be in "power" during sex, cause they can but...God damn am I making any sense to you
You are making perfect sense to me, this is something I've had to deal with in my personal life for years now. Wanting the option, 'feeling' the instinct at times, and wanting very badly to be able to penetrate yet not being able to and having to always be in the opposite position is frustrating beyond belief. The fact that I'm stuck with a body that was made for nothing but 'receiving' and I don't always want to 'receive' just makes everything worse.
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Kate

Quote from: Elwood on September 02, 2008, 05:35:32 PM
To most, small = cute, like you said. That bugs the ->-bleeped-<- out of me. I want to be 'attractive' and 'sexy' and worthwhile and all that. Stuff that gets a person excited, not a "warm and fuzzy feeling."

For what it's worth, I met three F2Ms in Montreal. All were around 5'4", and with me being 6'2", I was obviously waaaaay taller.

And yet, there's no way I could think of them as being "cute" (in a cuddly sense). No, they were darn HOT and seriously sexy. Masculine. I loved being around them, as they made me feel all the more feminine and delicate in contrast, regardless of the height difference.

~Katie Marie~
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Elwood

Quote from: Kate on September 03, 2008, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Elwood on September 02, 2008, 05:35:32 PMTo most, small = cute, like you said. That bugs the ->-bleeped-<- out of me. I want to be 'attractive' and 'sexy' and worthwhile and all that. Stuff that gets a person excited, not a "warm and fuzzy feeling."
For what it's worth, I met three F2Ms in Montreal. All were around 5'4", and with me being 6'2", I was obviously waaaaay taller.

And yet, there's no way I could think of them as being "cute" (in a cuddly sense). No, they were darn HOT and seriously sexy. Masculine. I loved being around them, as they made me feel all the more feminine and delicate in contrast, regardless of the height difference.

~Katie Marie~
Thank you for posting this, Kate. It helps my confidence, really.
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Ender

Quote from: Kate on September 03, 2008, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Elwood on September 02, 2008, 05:35:32 PM
To most, small = cute, like you said. That bugs the ->-bleeped-<- out of me. I want to be 'attractive' and 'sexy' and worthwhile and all that. Stuff that gets a person excited, not a "warm and fuzzy feeling."

For what it's worth, I met three F2Ms in Montreal. All were around 5'4", and with me being 6'2", I was obviously waaaaay taller.

And yet, there's no way I could think of them as being "cute" (in a cuddly sense). No, they were darn HOT and seriously sexy. Masculine. I loved being around them, as they made me feel all the more feminine and delicate in contrast, regardless of the height difference.

~Katie Marie~

*grin*

Seconded.  Thanks for saying that.  I cannot tell you how many times I've been called cute (I presume in the cuddly sense).  Really hope I can drop that.  Soon.
"Be it life or death, we crave only reality"  -Thoreau
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Jack Daniels

Quote from: Phate on September 03, 2008, 03:39:55 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 02:31:36 PM
Well actually, body wise and body wise only, your body is not passive, penetration can be assertive, or agressive...now I dont necessary mean...umm...letting a girl ride you makes you passive since shes in control, but the foundation of the body, the very fact that it can penetrate leaves room and potential to be aggressive, but girls dont have that option phsyically.NOT saying they cant be in "power" during sex, cause they can but...God damn am I making any sense to you
You are making perfect sense to me, this is something I've had to deal with in my personal life for years now. Wanting the option, 'feeling' the instinct at times, and wanting very badly to be able to penetrate yet not being able to and having to always be in the opposite position is frustrating beyond belief. The fact that I'm stuck with a body that was made for nothing but 'receiving' and I don't always want to 'receive' just makes everything worse.

Im glad im making sense
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Nero

Ok just to clarify. When I use the word 'degraded', I mean that's how it feels to me to have the wrong body.
I've got nothing against women, I'm not sexist at all. I have a mother.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Constance

Quote from: Nero on September 03, 2008, 05:05:10 PM
Ok just to clarify. When I use the word 'degraded', I mean that's how it feels to me to have the wrong body.
I've got nothing against women, I'm not sexist at all. I have a mother.
Thanks for the clarification, Nero. I kinda thought that's what you meant. But you initial post was so strongly worded, I wasn't entirely sure.

I feel I should add that most (if not all) mysoginists have mothers, too.  ;)

Lukas-H

Just for you guys who do not like being cute, if you get a girlfriend (unless you already have one) she will call you cute at some point! ::) Maybe once or twice, maybe a lot, but you can never escape being called that! Not all guys, if you've got a boyfriend, do that though, but generally a lot more girls that guys seem to do that.

I don't like it either, but I just try to ignore it or let it slide if I like the person ???
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Elwood

Quote from: Phate on September 03, 2008, 05:35:59 PMJust for you guys who do not like being cute, if you get a girlfriend (unless you already have one) she will call you cute at some point! ::) Maybe once or twice, maybe a lot, but you can never escape being called that! Not all guys, if you've got a boyfriend, do that though, but generally a lot more girls that guys seem to do that.

I don't like it either, but I just try to ignore it or let it slide if I like the person ???
Right, but I hope she'll also call me other things that are more masculine as well. If she makes me feel like a man, she can call me poo-bear.
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Adam

Quote from: Elwood on September 03, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
Quote from: Phate on September 03, 2008, 05:35:59 PMJust for you guys who do not like being cute, if you get a girlfriend (unless you already have one) she will call you cute at some point! ::) Maybe once or twice, maybe a lot, but you can never escape being called that! Not all guys, if you've got a boyfriend, do that though, but generally a lot more girls that guys seem to do that.

I don't like it either, but I just try to ignore it or let it slide if I like the person ???
Right, but I hope she'll also call me other things that are more masculine as well. If she makes me feel like a man, she can call me poo-bear.

Ya, I'd rather have my girlfriend, when I get one, to call me something masculine. But I guess there is a cute in a guy sort of way.
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Lukas-H

Quote from: Elwood on September 03, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
Quote from: Phate on September 03, 2008, 05:35:59 PMJust for you guys who do not like being cute, if you get a girlfriend (unless you already have one) she will call you cute at some point! ::) Maybe once or twice, maybe a lot, but you can never escape being called that! Not all guys, if you've got a boyfriend, do that though, but generally a lot more girls that guys seem to do that.

I don't like it either, but I just try to ignore it or let it slide if I like the person ???
Right, but I hope she'll also call me other things that are more masculine as well. If she makes me feel like a man, she can call me poo-bear.

I can understand that, but something like pooh-bear is kind of...nausea inducing, at least for me ??? What kind of things could someone call you, pet name wise I guess, that would be more masculine. "Hey there Conan, you think you could open this pickle jar for me? *wink*" Lol, just kidding. :P
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Kate

Quote from: Adam on September 03, 2008, 06:00:21 PM
Ya, I'd rather have my girlfriend, when I get one, to call me something masculine. But I guess there is a cute in a guy sort of way.

Oh hey, I call guys "cute" all the time. But I do NOT mean it in a pinch-the-cheek, "oh you're so cute!" way... TRUST me ;)

~Katie Marie~
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Elwood

Quote from: Phate on September 03, 2008, 06:00:37 PM
Quote from: Elwood on September 03, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
Quote from: Phate on September 03, 2008, 05:35:59 PMJust for you guys who do not like being cute, if you get a girlfriend (unless you already have one) she will call you cute at some point! ::) Maybe once or twice, maybe a lot, but you can never escape being called that! Not all guys, if you've got a boyfriend, do that though, but generally a lot more girls that guys seem to do that.

I don't like it either, but I just try to ignore it or let it slide if I like the person ???
Right, but I hope she'll also call me other things that are more masculine as well. If she makes me feel like a man, she can call me poo-bear.
I can understand that, but something like pooh-bear is kind of...nausea inducing, at least for me ??? What kind of things could someone call you, pet name wise I guess, that would be more masculine. "Hey there Conan, you think you could open this pickle jar for me? *wink*" Lol, just kidding. :P
I couldn't agree more. I was going to that extreme because that's how much feeling masculine and having it be acknowledged means to me.

I personally just don't like nick names. But I'd love it if my partner called me "Danny." Only people I really like can call me Danny.
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Jack Daniels

Quote from: Shades O'Grey on September 03, 2008, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: Nero on September 03, 2008, 05:05:10 PM
Ok just to clarify. When I use the word 'degraded', I mean that's how it feels to me to have the wrong body.
I've got nothing against women, I'm not sexist at all. I have a mother.
Thanks for the clarification, Nero. I kinda thought that's what you meant. But you initial post was so strongly worded, I wasn't entirely sure.

I feel I should add that most (if not all) mysoginists have mothers, too.  ;)

I, too , understand where you re comin from, and you re right, most mysoginists have moms(if not all), but at the same time I hate my mother for being a woman and doing womanly( havin kids) thing, and other steorytypical stuff.(I must sound like a mysoginist right now..)
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iFindMeHere

Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 06:38:24 PM

I, too , understand where you re comin from, and you re right, most mysoginists have moms(if not all), but at the same time I hate my mother for being a woman and doing womanly( havin kids) thing, and other steorytypical stuff.(I must sound like a mysoginist right now..)

Surface level, this seems misogynist but you don't strike me as one.  if you hate her for BEING a woman...  i can't help but think it's projected hatred for what society expects you to do. any possibility that' right?
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Jack Daniels

Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 03, 2008, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 06:38:24 PM

I, too , understand where you re comin from, and you re right, most mysoginists have moms(if not all), but at the same time I hate my mother for being a woman and doing womanly( havin kids) thing, and other steorytypical stuff.(I must sound like a mysoginist right now..)

Surface level, this seems misogynist but you don't strike me as one.  if you hate her for BEING a woman...  i can't help but think it's projected hatred for what society expects you to do. any possibility that' right?

Not only is she a "woman", but she accepts it, and man I hate that! With a god damn passion. Maybe its society, but then seein all these people accept their society "rules" just...gets to me
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Nero

Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 03, 2008, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 06:38:24 PM

I, too , understand where you re comin from, and you re right, most mysoginists have moms(if not all), but at the same time I hate my mother for being a woman and doing womanly( havin kids) thing, and other steorytypical stuff.(I must sound like a mysoginist right now..)

Surface level, this seems misogynist but you don't strike me as one.  if you hate her for BEING a woman...  i can't help but think it's projected hatred for what society expects you to do. any possibility that' right?

Not only is she a "woman", but she accepts it, and man I hate that! With a god damn passion. Maybe its society, but then seein all these people accept their society "rules" just...gets to me


umm are you saying she's a closet ftm?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Jack Daniels

Quote from: Nero on September 03, 2008, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 03, 2008, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2008, 06:38:24 PM

I, too , understand where you re comin from, and you re right, most mysoginists have moms(if not all), but at the same time I hate my mother for being a woman and doing womanly( havin kids) thing, and other steorytypical stuff.(I must sound like a mysoginist right now..)

Surface level, this seems misogynist but you don't strike me as one.  if you hate her for BEING a woman...  i can't help but think it's projected hatred for what society expects you to do. any possibility that' right?

Not only is she a "woman", but she accepts it, and man I hate that! With a god damn passion. Maybe its society, but then seein all these people accept their society "rules" just...gets to me


umm are you saying she's a closet ftm?


umm...no?
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