Catch -22

[lisagurl]

The Obama/Proposition 8 situation appeals to those opposed to same-sex marriage, who are banking on a high turnout by blacks and conservative Latinos. "There's no question African-American and Latino voters are among our strongest supporters," said Frank Schubert, the co-campaign manager for Yes on 8, the leading group behind the measure. "And to the extent that they are motivated to get to the polls, whether by this issue or by Barack Obama, it helps us."

[debbie j]

The Obama/Proposition 8 situation appeals to those opposed to same-sex marriage, who are banking on a high turnout by blacks and conservative Latinos. "There's no question African-American and Latino voters are among our strongest supporters," said Frank Schubert, the co-campaign manager for Yes on 8, the leading group behind the measure. "And to the extent that they are motivated to get to the polls, whether by this issue or by Barack Obama, it helps us."

sigh your right lisa in regards to this it is a catch -22 indeed but yet we still need someing to adress the  same-sex marriage couples .and give them the

same rights as marred couples have . :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: if i can ask you lisa . what do you think if anything at all as far as to thos of us who

are same-sex marriage couples haveing the same rights as married couples 

[lisagurl]

The Obama/Proposition 8 situation appeals to those opposed to same-sex marriage, who are banking on a high turnout by blacks and conservative Latinos. "There's no question African-American and Latino voters are among our strongest supporters," said Frank Schubert, the co-campaign manager for Yes on 8, the leading group behind the measure. "And to the extent that they are motivated to get to the polls, whether by this issue or by Barack Obama, it helps us."

sigh your right lisa in regards to this it is a catch -22 indeed but yet we still need something to address the  same-sex marriage couples .and give them the

same rights as marred couples have . :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: if i can ask you lisa . what do you think if anything at all as far as to those of us who

are same-sex marriage couples having the same rights as married couples 

First I am not religious and do not believe in the dogma. I do think all people should have the right to live in any types of relationships they like. Legally the laws are designed to promote families. I do not think the government should be in that business. But now that it is they should not discriminate at what a family is. I could concede the word marriage to the church. But all legal documents should then use a different word maybe social certificate that would apply to all unions between people no matter gender. Marriage would only be a church thing and would not apply legally. But Churches could ban same sex couples.

My self the divorce papers are not signed yet but I live with another MTF and sleep in the same bed. Confusing? yes.

[debbie j]

The Obama/Proposition 8 situation appeals to those opposed to same-sex marriage, who are banking on a high turnout by blacks and conservative Latinos. "There's no question African-American and Latino voters are among our strongest supporters," said Frank Schubert, the co-campaign manager for Yes on 8, the leading group behind the measure. "And to the extent that they are motivated to get to the polls, whether by this issue or by Barack Obama, it helps us."

sigh your right lisa in regards to this it is a catch -22 indeed but yet we still need something to address the  same-sex marriage couples .and give them the

same rights as marred couples have . :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: if i can ask you lisa . what do you think if anything at all as far as to those of us who

are same-sex marriage couples having the same rights as married couples 

First I am not religious and do not believe in the dogma. I do think all people should have the right to live in any types of relationships they like. Legally the laws are designed to promote families. I do not think the government should be in that business. But now that it is they should not discriminate at what a family is. I could concede the word marriage to the church. But all legal documents should then use a different word maybe social certificate that would apply to all unions between people no matter gender. Marriage would only be a church thing and would not apply legally. But Churches could ban same sex couples.

My self the divorce papers are not signed yet but I live with another MTF and sleep in the same bed. Confusing? yes.

oh no not at all lisa . and thats cool !! only thing is tho the way i see it  i dont care if they call it same sex Marriages or social certificate or what ever

just as long as every one has the same rights as the married couples. confusing no ??