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I am androgyne, hear me RAWR! UPDATE!!!

Started by Jaimey, October 12, 2008, 01:39:40 PM

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Jaimey

RAWR!

So this coming Saturday, I'm going to my first meeting with a local transgender group.  I'm nervous and excited and relieved all at the same time. 

The main thing I'm nervous about is trying to explain 'androgyne'.  Tina, the one who interviewed me over the phone, had clearly never heard of it and has pretty much labeled me ftm...don't really know how I'm going to get around that, but I guess I'll cross that road when I come to it.  I kept mentioning susans, hoping that perhaps she would get curious and come here to check it out, but I don't think I quite got through.  The interview questions she had were mainly for mtf's...so I know it was hard for her to relate them to me.  She kept asking me if I cross dress, but I don't really understand...I do on an academic level, but I was nervous...it's hard to cross dress if you aren't male/female.  I was having a hard time explaining that...and that I do sometimes wear skirts and cute frilly clothes.  I honestly don't care that much about my clothes.  If I had my way, I'd wear jeans/t-shirts all the time, but I can't at work and I WOULD like to date, so it's just better to wear (somewhat) cute clothes.

I just hope they don't decide that I'm not transgendered and kick me out.  I'm nervous...

If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Constance

We androgynes are in a tricky spot, aren't we?

I'm not MtF, that's certain. But, what's also certain is that I don't feel completely "at home" in this bio-male body. Becoming MtF would be just as limiting, to me, as staying bio-male.

So, where do we fit in the TG scheme of things?

Pica Pica

Quote from: Shades O'Grey on October 12, 2008, 02:50:23 PM
So, where do we fit in the TG scheme of things?

in the attic like an embarrassing wife.



Posted on: October 12, 2008, 03:09:47 pm
I've never tried to go to a TG meeting, bet it's interesting...

Agent Jaimey, we want a full report. Well I do.

I want to find out how you interact with them, whether they 'get' you and what the post meeting drinking session was like.

Also.... I reckon you should go in your most cloying, sweetest and girliest outfit. Just for a giggle.

(i remember once seeing a photo of you, you were kinda cute.)
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Shana A

Best of luck at the meeting Jaimey!

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 12, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on October 12, 2008, 02:50:23 PM
So, where do we fit in the TG scheme of things?

in the attic like an embarrassing wife.

Or locked up in the dungeon like frankenstein or Cinderella :P

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Nicky

With all the Rawring going on I thought Annwyn had made an appearance (anyone notive her blog has gone? I miss it, maybe I am just not seeing it??)

I have more of a meow than and RAWR  :embarrassed:

I've been meaning to go to a TG meeting too but never quite get it organised. It always ends up falling on my Roleplaying game night and I am definitly not missing that.

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Nero

i think it's great you're actually getting involved in the community as an andro. wish more andros would go to the ones around here.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Jaimey

Quote from: Shades O'Grey on October 12, 2008, 02:50:23 PM
We androgynes are in a tricky spot, aren't we?

I'm not MtF, that's certain. But, what's also certain is that I don't feel completely "at home" in this bio-male body. Becoming MtF would be just as limiting, to me, as staying bio-male.

So, where do we fit in the TG scheme of things?

That's a good question...I felt bad for Tina because she didn't have a clue...I don't mind answering questions, but I'm no good when I'm bombarded with them.  I need time to think before I answer.  The best thing I can think of to do is explain that I want to be neutral, not male and that I don't understand gender...'non binary' might be a good term to introduce to them if they don't know it.  We'll have to see...she was really nice though.  *fingers crossed*

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 12, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
Agent Jaimey, we want a full report. Well I do.

I want to find out how you interact with them, whether they 'get' you and what the post meeting drinking session was like.

Also.... I reckon you should go in your most cloying, sweetest and girliest outfit. Just for a giggle.

I will give a detailed report, Agent Pica!  :police:  I was actually thinking about what I should wear and I was honestly considering not wearing makeup...and then I realized how silly I was being.  They all wear makeup, so I can too!!!! (there's only 1 ftm in the whole group, the rest are all mtf and there are pics on the website)  If I tried to wear my girliest outfit, I'd have to wear these new SHMEXY heels I bought (on CLEARANCE!) this weekend and I'd probably break my ankle.  :D  I wonder if I'd get a giggle or an invitation to leave...

Quote(i remember once seeing a photo of you, you were kinda cute.)

Why, thank you, my dear.  :icon_redface:  (somehow I think I'm not very good at feigning modesty...;D)


@Z:  Thank you!  ...dungeons are awesome!

@Nicky:  There's nothing wrong with a meow!  I'm just a whacko.  My RAWR looks like this :icon_weee:.

Quote from: Nero on October 13, 2008, 05:45:21 PM
i think it's great you're actually getting involved in the community as an andro. wish more andros would go to the ones around here.

I understand why people don't want to get involved...I've been putting it off for months.  They aren't very good at replying to emails, so if you really want to get involved, you have to call their pager...talking on the phone to someone I've never met before is nervewracking...it would be so much easier if there were androgyne groups.  :)
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica

some weird reason i never even considered talking to real actual there type people.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Jaimey

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 13, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
some weird reason i never even considered talking to real actual there type people.

Personally, I'm hoping for extensive transgendered charades... :P  I do imagine there will be talking.  :laugh:
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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RebeccaFog


I'd go with Non Binary and toss in the gender variant too.

There are pockets of people who are not yet familiar or accepting with the Non Binary types.


I'm sure everything will be fine, however, you should know that transgendered people are a sneaky underhanded bunch. They will pick your pocket while offering you a kiss. They will also swipe your underwear while you are wearing it.  I suggest you ask Sarah if you can borrow her knife.

I also heard that transgender people have an agenda, or is it a transagenda? In any case, watch yer back. Don't sign anything without an attorney's advice.
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Jaimey

Quote from: Rebis on October 13, 2008, 07:06:41 PM

I'd go with Non Binary and toss in the gender variant too.

There are pockets of people who are not yet familiar or accepting with the Non Binary types.


I'm sure everything will be fine, however, you should know that transgendered people are a sneaky underhanded bunch. They will pick your pocket while offering you a kiss. They will also swipe your underwear while you are wearing it.  I suggest you ask Sarah if you can borrow her knife.

I also heard that transgender people have an agenda, or is it a transagenda? In any case, watch yer back. Don't sign anything without an attorney's advice.

No worries, I'm naturally aloof and distrusting.  (is that really something to brag about?)  Hopefully, I can get the point across.  I suppose if talking doesn't work, I can just beat into them :icon_bat:.


QuoteThey will also swipe your underwear while you are wearing it.

...somehow, that's a trick I'd like to see...
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Jaimey on October 13, 2008, 07:14:52 PM


QuoteThey will also swipe your underwear while you are wearing it.

...somehow, that's a trick I'd like to see...

In a skirt, simple take a sharp craft knife....
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Kinkly

Would like to know how you went I've been going to a trans suport group for a little while mostly m2f a few f2m most think I'm M2f very few understand, in trying to fit I use my fem name although I don't fit I do try to explain that my need to tranition to show both M & F is as real as there need to go all the way 
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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Jaimey

I'll do my best to get on here Saturday night for an update, but it might be Sunday as I am lazy.  :D
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Shion

I'm interested in hearing how this goes too. I've thought about going to a support group, but not right now. After I move out, maybe. Hope it goes well for you.
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Jaimey

Well, tonight was my first meeting with the local transgender group here in Louisville and I am happy I went.  It was a small gathering, 20 or so people, if I had to guess and I was the only trans person there that wasn't born male, so that was pretty interesting.  There were people younger than me and people who most definitely get the AARP discount, so it was a really diverse group, age wise.  It started with everyone introducing themselves and then we had a guest speaker.

Our guest speaker was Dawn Wilson, whom I used to wait on and talk to at length when I worked at Borders!  She spoke to us about getting involved with the fairness campaign (www.fairness.org) in Kentucky to get a state law passed for transgender rights since we have a governor who WILL sign it!!  So at some point, I'll be getting involved with them licking envelopes or something to get the word out.  She went over some of the things she has gone through (getting fired and then blacklisted by employers in Louisville) and how a law can change those things.  She went over some of the problems with getting a law passed (all the speakers that state congressmen deal with are from Louisville/Lexington/Cincinatti area and not their districts, etc.).

I was REALLY nervous when I first got there.  I was the youngest person when I first got there and I was the only non mtf person there as well.  Also, I got there early and everyone who was there were regulars, so it was a little intimidating at first.  But once the meeting started, I relaxed a lot and I enjoyed myself and learned quite a bit (somebody doesn't keep up with current events very well...).

Also, Dawn knows about us androgynes!!!  I introduced myself as a male identified androgyne and she shook her head like she knew what I was talking about, I got really excited.  So I talked to her afterword (mostly about anime and then we moved on :D) and asked her if she knew about androgynes and she did!  She said that it took her a little bit to understand it, but she eventually did.  She also told me about an anime that deals with it called 'Simoun'...people have to pick there gender and some can't...well, that's a bad summary, but that's the gist.  It also turns out that she used to live in the house I live in now (random) and she lives pretty close now.  So I'm sure I'll see her around and I'm looking forward to getting more involved.

So I know that's a crappy update, but it was my first meeting!  There was a lot of information to take in.  I do recommend getting involved if you can.  Just being around people who understand and who call me "Jaimey"...that made me happy.  Although there was a person there named "Jessica" and it took me a few times to realize they weren't talking to me.  heh.  I'm pretty psyched right now, so it's hard for me to calm down and write.  :laugh:

So there it is.  I hope you all aren't disappointed by my inability to write about real life.  I could write stories all day long, ask me to write a personal narrative and it might be the worst thing you've ever read.  heh.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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RebeccaFog

Wow!

It sounds like you found someone worth stalking.

I'll be looking forward to the police report.

:laugh:                :laugh:
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Pica Pica

Sounds like a nice group, if it got you psyched and incoherent, that does sound like a good thing.
You missed the most important point though - did they serve tea and biscuits afterwards, and if so - what is the Louisville transgender group biscuit of choice?
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Jaimey

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 20, 2008, 05:12:54 PM
Sounds like a nice group, if it got you psyched and incoherent, that does sound like a good thing.
You missed the most important point though - did they serve tea and biscuits afterwards, and if so - what is the Louisville transgender group biscuit of choice?

No tea and cookies, but there was chili and cake, so I suppose that counts.  :D  And the cake was chocolate.

Quote from: Rebis on October 20, 2008, 04:09:40 PM
Wow!

It sounds like you found someone worth stalking.

I'll be looking forward to the police report.

:laugh:                :laugh:

Eh?  :icon_suspicious:
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Shana A

Quote from: Jaimey on October 20, 2008, 06:42:57 PM
No tea and cookies, but there was chili and cake, so I suppose that counts.  :D  And the cake was chocolate.

Can't be all bad if there is chocolate  ;D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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