I find it odd, and very sad, that someone like Cathryn, who claims to be an advocate for TSes, and, for that matter, any of the rest of us, attempts to use any of the Blanchard thought-experiment BS that has NO proof or scientific underpinnings to dismiss others just like themselves. We take the language of our inquisitors and make it our own to bash and destroy others. As if the major point is simply to hurt and dismiss those we don't like. What kind of male-dominant crap is that?
Judas-priest!! "I won't pass judgement on who or who isn't a "woman" " which immediately brings into the question exactly what she claims to "refuse" to do!! What a meager and absolutely false display of linguistic inability!
It has become more important to hurt another than to soothe one's own pains. Your lonliness and deep lack of belief in yourselves becomes plain to see as you use the axes of an atavistic hatred to hack away at others just like you as you try to say they are not like you. The effort is sad and terribly wrong-headed.
You want acceptance, you want an end to your lonliness and alienation Cathryn, that is not the way to get it. There are reasons, very good and plain reasons that the temple had a huge schism. The reasons are the very things that show in your incessant arguments about this.
Have you and your cohorts not learned yet that the dismissal of others doesn't make you any more at the center and accepted than you were before?
Perhaps instead of talking with your friends the therapists and psychiatrists you should use their services to try to handle the very obvious pain and lack of esteem you demonstrate through your willingness to try to destroy the hopes and validity of others. You make the same mistake that Blanchard and Zucker and Bailey and Lawrence have made: you believe that your argument, your own sense that you should be impotant and heeded, somehow trumps the importance of bringing us all to a place in the world where we can reach acceptance and validity in the eyes of others.
You've lit the fires of your own loathing and wonder why you are continuously burnt? Use your heart for a second and do something about your own pain and alienation instead of trying to use those to dismiss others. And that lesson shouldn't simply be used by you but by others who attempt the exact same thing.
This "argument" was personal and dismissive from the git and you brought that here with the mean-spirited and gloaty falsities of your original essay on your own blog.
Rachael, I admire you in many respects, I have watched you grow tremendously over the past year or two and I credit you with so very much promise and ability. But, my friend, the dismissal or separation of others is only going to leave us more alienated and further from the human world than we have been left already. Please do not make the attempt to provide yourself with belief and efficacy by dismissing others. It will not work. It will only make us all less.
Andra is spot-on. To use the master's tools at this point to undermine the master is one thing. To use the master's tools to undermine others like one's self or very close kin to one's self is nothing but destructive and mean-spirited.
Now you may see all of this as a personal attack, Cathryn. So be it. It is actually a very sad understanding that one and another of my sisters are in deep pain and I watch them lash out at others hoping that will ease their pain.
It won't and you know it. Don't you? It's never eased any of your pain, has it? Only made it worse as people you care for and hoped to build community with have left you and gone their own way. Sowing my own hatred forever only increases my own hatred.
I find it terribly sad to see a formerly bright and lively intelligence consumed in the fires of its own alienation.
Namaste, Blessed Be, The Peace of The Lord Be With You, May the Wind Always Be At Your Back, Wherever You Go.
I'm done.
Nichole