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Question about periods for FTM...

Started by sarahb, November 08, 2008, 06:16:03 AM

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sarahb

I want to ask a question to the FTMs here about periods, although it may be a sore subject so if you don't want to answer then you don't have to.

Is there some way you can describe what it actually feels like? What happens on the onset? Does it progressively intensify or does it just come and BLAM it's pain and bloating and all that? What happens at the end? Same thing, does it slowly diminish, or just go away as quickly as it started? Is the pain situated in one area for the most part or is it like a whole body thing? What about the bleeding, is it constant or on and off throughout the week or whatever the time frame is? How long does it usually last?

I ask this mostly so I can better understand it and be able to correctly speak about it if asked or anything. Since being full time and [hopefully] passing will bear the "burdens" of the appropriate knowledge, I feel I should inform myself. I hope I don't offend anyone by asking this.

Thanks to any of you guys who respond, much appreciated.

- Sarah
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Ender

Sure, I'll bite.  I can't say my experiences are 100% representative of the norm--but then again from what I understand it's different for everybody.

For me it comes progressively.  The biggest tell-tale sign is that about a week beforehand my chesticles (favorite new term--not sure who around here coined it) like to get a bit sore around the nipples, and then sore throughout.  The actual breast tissue--mammary glands, not fat--begins to ache and swell.  (I hate that part; it makes the things big enough that my usual binding method goes from adequate to insufficient--the damn things bounce.)  I believe estrogen is at its highest at this time as well, which I suppose explains this effect.

The ache in my chest continues until bleeding starts; by the end of the bleeding, my chest is back to its normal size.  The first signal that bleeding is going to start is that, on the same day, I will begin to get chills accompanied by goosebumps and a cold sweat.  It's a whole-body thing, and very much like a flu symptom.  I may or may not get off-and-on cramps before actual bleeding starts.  The first and second days are the worst, with my body temperature constantly fluctuating.  Extreme cold is felt as my abdomen cramps and then peaks in pain, subsiding as a hot flash comes on.  The entire cycle takes ~2 minutes and repeats.  It is relentless and pain meds have no effect--though Tylenol Extra Strength used to work wonders when I first started.  This is a pattern I have noticed since I first began, but it has gotten much worse in recent years to the point of not being able to function.  What began as fairly mild chills/hot flashes and a little cramping has... amped up considerably; I hope your daughter is one of those with milder symptoms.

Another intriguing change is that the cramps are beginning to no longer 'cycle' between pain & no pain--they maintain a sharp ache throughout and only the intensity of the pain changes from ache to stab.  Before, the cramping was a cyclic dull ache and not too bad.  So yes, this is very much an entire-body thing; I can't say too much about bloating, though the area on my abdomen directly in front of the uterus does get swollen and hard during this time.  Other symptoms include frequent urination & defecation (sorry, TMI, but the uterus really can wreak havoc with the surrounding organs), a general ache in my hip joints.

The bleeding is constant and heavy until the third day; things start to taper off may stop completely, and the pain is gone.  It may stay like this for a day or two, but then the pain will return full-force, heavy bleeding will return, and this will stay for about a day or two until it stops again (tapers off slowly), hopefully for another 3 weeks--but the cycle is very irregular for me & always has been, so I can't really say.  I once stopped completely for 8 months until I finally gave in, went to a gyno concerned about my bone health, and she prescribed me estrogen  >:(

The above is just my experience and may not at all represent what your daughter will have.  Like I said, I think I may be on the nastier end of things.  I can't really give you any tried-and-true advice on what to say; my parents really didn't have 'the talk' with me and left it up to the school to educate me (they have sex/puberty-ed in the 5th grade).  That being said, I was in horror and disbelief when this actually happened and kept it a secret from my mother for 7 years simply because of a video they showed that highlighted a scene between mother & daughter, where the mother looked to her daughter with great emotion and said "You're becoming a WOMAN now!"  *Really* didn't want to hear my mother saying the same thing.  Anyways.  Maybe just keep it to the facts of: you will begin to menstruate, you may experience cramping but Tylenol & heating pads (I really recommend getting one, they're awesome) help with this... don't make it sound frightening (it is a natural bodily function after all) and just kind of keep the lines of communication open with her.  Here's a site that may be helpful: http://www.iwannaknow.org/puberty/girls.html.  Which reminds me of one more thing regarding tampons: a life-threatening, though rare, bacterial infection called Toxic Shock Syndrome can develop if they are not changed frequently.  Just something to be aware of.  Pads don't cause this, but the downside to those things is that they are bulky and don't smell too good after a while.  I believe most girls prefer tampons & they are safe if changed as per manufacturer's instructions (seriously, every package comes with a warning now).

I think that covers it; I hope I was (mostly) clear.

<i>Note: Sorry, Sarah, I saw Kiera's post and somehow started thinking you were the one needing to explain things to a daughter.  Anyways, from my experience when women talk about their periods, I dunno, they kind of just share what theirs is like & use it as a time to sort of air out their complaints with it (general consensus: it's sucky, but at least it means they can have kids).  Don't know if you want to make up an imaginary cycle to talk about or not... It really might be sufficient to say that you are not able to menstruate--it does happen sometimes.  If they ask why, well, you're on your own on how you want to answer, though you could just say "I'd rather not talk about it"--because, really, I think some women would be pretty upset about not having a cycle, especially if they are of child-bearing age.</i>
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sarahb

Wow, that was a very descriptive post. Thank you Eryk. I was wanting the information more for if I ever get asked about it by other girls or something, but having this information for my [potential] daughter is also very helpful. Thanks for explaining it in such detail, especially since it's probably not a subject you like talking about.
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Lokaeign

I'm androgyne/3rd gender rahter than FtM, but I do have a long aquaintance with Red Dot so I'll pitch in.

When I was younger (teens-mid 20's) I would have very little warning that my period was due.  No cramps until after the actual onset.  I would feel a bit more emotional, maybe.  Menarche for me was very light--a little spotting--with a heavier bleed the next month. 
When I was younger my first day would always be the heaviest.  Now (mid-30s) I have a couple of days of light spotting before the main event.  The first day or two were always the crampiest earlier on; now the really bad cramps start on the 2nd or 3rd day.  My mood dips sharply in the week before I start to bleed, and I'm not always aware at the time that this is what's going on.  ("No I'm NOT due on!  How DARE you suggest that this is all just a product of my hormonal cycle!  I'm assessing things COMPLETELY RATIONALLY, it's just that everything SUCKS and.... oh.")

As I got older, breast tenderness before my period became more pronounced.  This can range from being a little more sensitive than usual through to "please nobody hug me, I'm stuffed with pointy rocks!" 

Cramps and other nastiness:  some people get them, some don't.  It's largely a matter of genetics.  I have a lot of problems with pain and nausea, but this is not the norm.  The worst ones occur in waves in my lower abdomen.  I also get backaches and headaches.  Walking the symptoms off is the best solution, but not always do-able.  Standing up for long spells is really unpleasant.  After a few days I start to get a "heavy," scraped-out feeling inside, but the cramps die down.  I also get low on energy, my depression worsens, and my pain threshold drops. 

My dysphoria is also extra-active at this time, partly because of the fact that I'm undergoing an unarguably female experience and partly because of secondary effects--swollen boobs, weight gain, perceived "weakness" because I can't shrug off the symptoms and soldier on, etc., but this is unlikely to be a problem for most cis women.  (In fact, some experience their period as a happy, affirming time--something I never got even when I was ID'ing as solely female.)
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trapthavok

I sorta mumbled "urgh..." when I read the subject of this post, but it's not painful enough for me to refuse to talk about it. I'll answer as best I can.

It really varies by woman but from what I've heard between me and my friends, the majority of us have HORRIBLE HORRIBLE cramps the first day and the rest of the week it's okay. Also, the duration of one's period depends on the person. Some people (lucky %#$!^$@&) only get it 3 days or so, while I suffer a whopping 5 - 6 days out of each month.

Some of the warning signs for me used to be that I'd get very depressed or apathetic right before the onset...Like Eryk said my moobs would get severely sensitive and painful. (Lol now I feel a little weird talking about it. Had to be the moobs).

I'm somewhat ignorant on this, because I really DON'T WANT TO KNOW, but according to one of my rooommates, there's a clear, sticky secretion that comes out down there, about 2 - 3 days before your period comes. She said it was the egg shedding or something, but you might want to look that up. Some women "spot" before a period (meaning a little bit of blood comes here and there in those 2 -3 pre-period days) but I really don't... I just get the sticky secretion.

My appetite increases just before and during, but that may be just cause I'm sickle cell anemic...That monthly loss of iron is the LAST thing my body needs. So I guess it tries to replenish it from somewhere. Then right before the storm hits I start feeling nauseous (and because I'm FTM a level of denial arises) and when the slight ache in my lower abdominal area occurs (and I mean THE lowest abdominal area, right above where your privates start) I know I need to run in the bathroom and get a pad. In the past I when I was completely in denial that it was occurring, I'd feel a slow drip between my legs...almost like when you can't hold your pee anymore and it starts coming out one drop at a time...but this is MUCH more painstakingly slow. Like it lingers as it begins to drip before it falls and messes up your underwear. The excruciatingly slow drip is how I distinguish it, that is my period and I NEED A PAD NOW!!!

After the first few drops, I get even more nauseous and then the cramps creep in a bit faster. It's like...well to me it's like I REALLY have to poo, but there's no poo in there..... When I first started my cycle when I was younger, I often confused having to do #2 with my cramps when it was that time of the month. Then it just gets worse and worse until I'm crippled in bed unable to move. Supposedly exercise helps, it gets the blood pumping and therefore your cramps aren't as bad, but I can't even BEAR to hear that word when I'm in fetal position. I just want my heating pad, painkillers, and I want to die for at least 24 - 36 hours. The pain is really intense.

The first 36 hours or so that pad is really obvious in your underwear too, no matter it's size, because it's like a foreign object has now entered the picture. After that period though, you stop noticing its there.


Sorry I couldn't be as helpful as Eryk was, but I guess you get the point. His post was really descriptive, it probably makes up for mine.

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Nero

um i can tell you this - if you exercise a lot (cardio), it comes out in nasty clots and gets really gross.
it's really good to orgasm frequently near the end to help 'flush' out the stale blood.

more on this later when i got time for more description  ;)
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Arch

Well, I'll bite. I used to become very depressed for a couple of days before I started bleeding. I was so disconnected from my periods--even though I was on the Pill and KNEW that I'd taken the last active pill in the packet--that I usually found myself wondering why I was feeling so down. Duh. The things we do to keep ourselves sane.

Anyway, while I was depressed, usually on the second day, I would start feeling terribly nauseated, but I couldn't throw up. It's not quite the same kind of nausea that you get when you have Montezuma's Revenge or Calcutta Tummy--it's more like an aching nausea--it was as if the cramps were starting to operate at the same time and I couldn't quite distinguish the nausea from the aches. But then there was this hard pulling sensation--as if someone had caught my female organs in a net and was trying to tug them out of me through the hole between my legs.

I would have heavy nausea, the tugging sensation, moderate cramps, and killer lower back pain for about three days--these symptoms usually started while I was still depressed (and then I'd think, oh, THAT'S why I'm depressed) but before I started bleeding. Then I would bleed for a couple of days through the symptoms. Then the symptoms would subside, but I'd keep on bleeding, only it would start tapering off. I usually bled heavily for three days, then I'd have a day or two of obvious tapering, then I'd come to the tail-end of the thing and have intermittent rusty brown gook and spotting. (Sorry if TMI.)

I often had headaches. Sometimes my chest was sensitive, but usually only when my partner, you know, tweaked the nipples a little too hard (trying to be friendly and playful, mostly). And I often found myself walking sort of hunched over a bit. I'm not sure if it was from physical or emotional discomfort.

This is how it was while I was on the Pill. It was much worse before the Pill.

I found that if I took a few Ibuprofen BEFORE any physical symptoms and then continued taking a couple of tablets throughout the cycle, I could cut the discomfort considerably. The only problem was that I was usually in denial that I was about to have another period, and by the time the thing had started, it was too late to take a preemptive Ibu dose.

I am so glad I'm through with that. Hot flashes are a pain in the ass, but I much prefer them to periods.
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Ender

Quote from: Nero on November 08, 2008, 02:57:29 PM
um i can tell you this - if you exercise a lot (cardio), it comes out in nasty clots and gets really gross.

Oh. Dang.  For real, that's why that happens?  It's not enough to make me stop exercising, but yeah, the clots are nasty--I just thought they were normal & not the direct result of something I was doing.
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Rhye

Mine comes on really sudden.

Usually I'll spend an hour or two feeling like there's something seriously wrong with my bowels before I actually start bleeding, and then that ominous feeling in my lower gut sticks around until I go to sleep for the day.

The first day is horrible because of that godawful sensation that makes me want to curl up and die, but after that, it's totally fine. I can actually forget I'm on my period until it's time to change my tampon.

As for bleeding, I bleed really heavily for the first day (like to the point where I'm getting a new tampon almost every hour), then pretty heavy the next day, and then steady and moderately for the next two days. And then it disappears with no warning or tapering. Yayyy.
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icontact

Quote from: Lindsey on November 08, 2008, 10:36:52 PM
Mine comes on really sudden.

Usually I'll spend an hour or two feeling like there's something seriously wrong with my bowels before I actually start bleeding, and then that ominous feeling in my lower gut sticks around until I go to sleep for the day.

Yessssss, exactly. I donno, it's not a big deal for me, just the stuff above that I quoted, and then I bleed for like 3 days and it's gone. Oh and I have to pop a tylenol the day before it starts otherwise I'll have terribleterribleGODFKINGAWFUL cramps.
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Mister

BTW- Not all women get menstrual cramps.  If you claim to be one of The Sacred Few, you will be renouned as a "lucky bitch."  :D
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Aiden

I usually get really moody and tired about a week or 2 before starts.  Then a day or less before spotting I'll get cramps in the lower back, which I sometimes mistake for back aches which I get due to being heavy in chest and poor positioning.

Then I start spotting usually the first day and then bleeding heavy the next 3 days, heaviest being the middle day of heavy bleeding.  Then starts to taper off but am still moody and very tired wanting to sleep all time.  During heavy part I feel like I can't move without leaking.  I can't sleep on my back or to far towards front, and when I get up in morning it's like it pours out of me and I have to hold my legs together and waddle to the bathroom.  I also get fairly large clots as well.

But after 3-4 days it's starts to taper off and tapering off can take about 3-4 days as well.  Then other than some remaining moodiness I return to normal usually.  However lately my time of month has been even less regular than usual.  I've had it sometimes 2 weeks apart.

Gender dystorphia increases as well and noticed since wearing a binder that my breasts will be more tender during it.
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sarahb

Thank you guys, you really shed some light and personal details as to the process and what's involved and I do appreciate it, honestly. I think I get the point now and will spare anyone else from having to divulge details about an obviously painful (physically and emotionally) subject.
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Godot

I get really moody like most do a couple days before the period actually starts. Orgasm helps most of the time but there's been a couple times that it's made it worse. The worst day for cramps is the first day for me. After that they linger on a little then they eventually go away. I can get emotional during the period and before =/
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Nero

tip for getting a taste of the period experience:

pick one week out the month and gorge on chocolate and pamper yourself
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Dennis

I must be different. For me, it just happened, not much physically except sore tits, period and sore tits lasted 3 days and went away. It did get worse as I got older though and I occasionally got cramps, but nothing like some of my girlfriends have had. I can't imagine anyone celebrating the onset of it and I had the easiest time of it of anyone I know.

But the sore tits used to really piss me off, cause I hated having them anyway and to have them hurt when I walked down stairs really bugged me.

Dennis
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Aiden

Yeh.  as far as Chocolate.  I'm not big into it most time.  for some reason though I will sometimes get a craving for it during my time of month
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Lokaeign

You might need magnesium.  Chocolate is high in magnesium, hence the food craving.
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Nero

Quote from: Lokaeign on November 12, 2008, 08:07:18 PM
You might need magnesium.  Chocolate is high in magnesium, hence the food craving.

hmm. i notice i eat a LOT more in general during pms. think nutrient levels drop during this time or something?
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Lokaeign

I guess.  I mean, your body just lost a whole chunk of tissue, and is possibly about to lose a fair bit of blood.  Also hormones are tied into your appetite pretty strongly.
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