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HRT making you TALLER?

Started by Annwyn, December 04, 2008, 07:39:43 AM

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Annwyn

Quote from: soldierjane on December 05, 2008, 09:04:18 AM
1. Too much estrogen, causing a countersurge of T by your friendly testes
Impossible.  Learn a bit about your endocrine system.


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3. Wishful thinking (on short people)

LULZ that's funny.
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soldierjane

Quote from: Annwyn on December 05, 2008, 09:25:40 AM
Quote from: soldierjane on December 05, 2008, 09:04:18 AM
1. Too much estrogen, causing a countersurge of T by your friendly testes
Impossible.  Learn a bit about your endocrine system.


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3. Wishful thinking (on short people)

LULZ that's funny.

Well, estrogen HRT making you TALLER is quite a difficult one too Ms. I-know-all-about-the-endocrine-system. Then again, everything's possible in the Twilight Zone, ain't it?
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Beyond

Quote from: Annwyn on December 05, 2008, 08:39:10 AM
Okay, time for the pharmacy student to step in here:

Spironolactone does NOT cause you to gain any increases in height.

It was used in a study in conjunction with another steroid inhibitor on boys who had a condition best described as that from an age of 1-3 years old, they had so much testosterone their growth was entirely stunted.
To that effect, blocking testosterone in these boys who now aged around 10 years old, 5.7mg/kg bodyweight, it's no surprise that this normalized their growth.

That is the only known incident of spironolactone causing an increase in height.  Whatever you've heard off those non-educated parrots on those TG YAHOO and MSN groups have said some things that are simply outrageous, such as too much estrogen being converted to testosterone, a chemically impossible feat, or many others and them all thinking they're the perfect doctor for you with their cashier job 9-5, it's aggravating.

Spironolactone does not cause an increase in height unless an effect of too much testosterone directly stunts it.

Furthermore Aldactone is not a strong chemical.  I mean, the therapeutic effective dose in transsexuals ranges from 200mg to 800mg, that's a LOT.
Compared to a drug such as Sulnar or Altace, or even better for you guys Ethinylestradiol  or many others where therapeutic theshold is measured in micrograms, spironolactone is nothing.

Woah, slow down.  There are far too many variables in play to blame the Spiro.  For example normally excess testosterone would be converted by the body into estrogen.  So I think posting this is a great diservice to the community.

Quote from: soldierjane on December 05, 2008, 09:04:18 AM
Things that may cause growing while on HRT:


1. Too much estrogen, causing a countersurge of T by your friendly testes.

Although excess T is converted into estrogen, the opposite does NOT happen, that is a trans MYTH!

In case you didn't get that


Excess estrogen is NOT converted into testosterone!  That is a trans myth!!!



As far as increasing height, like others said many genetic males continue to add height into the mid 20's, whereas most genetic females are done growing many years earlier (16-18).
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iFindMeHere

is it possible you're feeling better about yourself and thus standing taller?
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Rachael

Quote from: Annwyn on December 04, 2008, 10:58:16 AM
Am I like the youngest transitioner on this site or something?

:( ???
I started hrt at 19... i lost an inch or two, then gained it back of late....

im afraid its natural growth anwynn... you do get growth spurts in the early 20s...
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Annwyn

Quote from: iFindMeHere on December 05, 2008, 09:45:28 PM
is it possible you're feeling better about yourself and thus standing taller?
I stood with a taller physique when I was 40 pounds heavier in muscle.
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Mari

Genetics aside, but isn't oestrogen supposed to promote bone maturation, so that the part of bone that is still gorwing "closes" and no further height gain is possible? Thats why girls finish growth much sooner than men, right? Or height gain has smth to do with beeing XX or XY?
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deviousxen

Quote from: Annwyn on December 05, 2008, 08:39:10 AM
Okay, time for the pharmacy student to step in here:

Spironolactone does NOT cause you to gain any increases in height.

It was used in a study in conjunction with another steroid inhibitor on boys who had a condition best described as that from an age of 1-3 years old, they had so much testosterone their growth was entirely stunted.
To that effect, blocking testosterone in these boys who now aged around 10 years old, 5.7mg/kg bodyweight, it's no surprise that this normalized their growth.

That is the only known incident of spironolactone causing an increase in height.  Whatever you've heard off those non-educated parrots on those TG YAHOO and MSN groups have said some things that are simply outrageous, such as too much estrogen being converted to testosterone, a chemically impossible feat, or many others and them all thinking they're the perfect doctor for you with their cashier job 9-5, it's aggravating.

Spironolactone does not cause an increase in height unless an effect of too much testosterone directly stunts it.

Furthermore Aldactone is not a strong chemical.  I mean, the therapeutic effective dose in transsexuals ranges from 200mg to 800mg, that's a LOT.
Compared to a drug such as Sulnar or Altace, or even better for you guys Ethinylestradiol  or many others where therapeutic theshold is measured in micrograms, spironolactone is nothing.

Yeah, not to mention Spiro alone causes bone problems and not bone growth.
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