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Started by anewlife123, January 06, 2009, 06:26:44 AM

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tekla

Ok, I'm going to go very slowly here.  I'm not Tesla, though that was in my mind when I chose that name.  I admire him, if I would worship any human, he'd be the saint of my church.  If only, because he hated superstition, metaphysics, and worked to create in the real world what he had imagined in his mind.

So.

Those photos of Montauk.  They are of a Radar Installation.  That Radar Installation, one of the first built in America (and thank's to the very brill people in England who invented it) and was built to detect German Hinkle bombers coming to New York.  IT PRE-DATES (which means, came way before) Tesla's use of that facility.  By the time the Navy gave it to Tesla to use, it had been decommissioned, as radar technology grew very fast and it was obsolete almost as it was built.

They let Tesla use that facility because it was already a secure facility.  That radar antenna had nothing to do with Tesla.  Those bunkers, were built to house the equipment - hard to replace - that ran and interpreted the signals needed to be in a hardened facility because they were a first strike target, so it would be possible for the antenna to be wiped out, (which was easy to replace in relative terms) but for the equipment to survive and function as soon as a new - even mobile - antenna to be hooked up. It had nothing to do, before, during or after, with the Tesla experiments.

Tesla only showed up there AFTER that antenna and bunker were no longer needed for the reason they were built, which was not Tesla.  The antenna survives because the people of Montauk, for some odd reason (not unknown to like people in SF who have this strange attachment to the Golden Gate Bridge and Coit Tower) they found it a symbol of their town, and their place - and worked very hard NOT to have it torn down, as the Navy wanted. 

As for Tesla, being peaceful and all.  You're kidding me right?  Tesla in his time was one of the top defense contractors of all time.  Tesla designed several weapons we know about, and perhaps several we don't know about.  The 'government' though what branch remains in limbo - military intel, army, navy, or the White House itself, took the papers when he died.  But peaceful.  Nonsense.  Tesla designed death as sure as he designed the three phase motor.  Did you not notice that Tesla loved to electrocute large animals using DC, to prove that Edison's system was dangerous, as Edison did with AC, to prove that the Westinghouse system was dangerous.  Electrocuting large animals, up to and including elephants, was almost a sport between him and Edison.  The two of them zapped more cats than anyone can count.

And Tesla was hardly a humanitarian.  He hated people.  He was noted once as saying that he loved the company of pigeons over the company of women.  And since there is no known record of him every have as much as a dinner date, much less a GF, and never a wife, but lots of pigeons, I have to go with that.

And you are in error about his first lab too.  The first lab he had in the US was the Westinghouse lab, where he helped to design the Niagara Falls Turbine Facility (still in use), after which he had a lab in NYC, where he had one of the first phones in NYC, phone number SPring - 299.  (When I owned a car, it was my personalized plate)

Considering you have all the basic facts wrong, why should I believe the rest?

But if you're really looking for some fab idea, try the kitchen.  It could be that what Tesla was experimenting with was microwaves, and that would explain the 'cooking' of people on the boat a lot more easily than time travel would.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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cindybc

I of course cannot dispute what you say I wasn't there when he procured the lab nor can I dispute the location or about the weapons and all that stuff and I knew about Edison and electrocution of animals but was not aware of Tesla being involved in any of these things you speak of. But I do know someone that does, I have a friend in Long Island that has documented Teslas biography and achievements religiously. A very good and dear GG friend, Carol. 

And would you mind elaborating just what you know about the metaphysical and psychic and sensitivities abilities? Scratch the last it's not worth arguing about.

Cindy   
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tekla

I wasn't there when he procured the lab nor can I dispute the location or about the weapons and all that stuff

It's called research, reading the stuff that is true, not just a bunch of fiction that you want to be true.  It's all on the web, its not like it's hard.

And I'm not sure about any of those powers, but I'm sure what Tesla said and thought about them.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Nichole on January 14, 2009, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 14, 2009, 02:28:44 PM
Depends Nero, on whether you like pseudo-intellectual, new age, badly written, self indulgent piffle.

Hmmm, never would have expected you to dislike any of that sorta stuff, Pica. I can go with new age, not so sure about the rest though. Perhaps one just needs to be of a certain age....

Nichole

i have these barely rational loves and hatreds  ;D

I also equate new age for closely with pseudo-intellectual and self indulgence and piffle...
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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cindybc

As you wish, masta. Bring out the weapons of mass destruction just to kill a mouse.
Don't wory Pica Pica, no hate coming from me.

Bon soir

Cindy
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Pica Pica

mice are hard to kill, might need some wmds.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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cindybc

I'll just stick to being a mild mannered lovable little thang that I am and always dreamed of being. I like being loved, hugged and kissed on the cheeks by the guys and the gals, just as much as any other normal red blooded north American girl.

I like talking about the newest fashions, give tips on how to fashion and make your own clothes. Child rearing, diaper changing rash and care, remedies for menstrual cramps, house cleaning and care. What kind of curtains would look good with the color of the walls in the living room. House plants and what type of flower pots to use.

Tips on gardening, interior remodeling, what kind of soap to buy for laundry. Which type is the best cleaner to use for house cleaning. Personal grooming products, talking about guys and other usual girl talk while sitting around the kitchen table playing euker with the girls and sipping on a cup of tea  etc etc.

Cindy
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Jade H

I just LOVE this thread... Where its been and where it's going... ;D
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Shana A

Quote from: Pica Pica on January 15, 2009, 01:28:00 AM
Quote from: Nichole on January 14, 2009, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 14, 2009, 02:28:44 PM
Depends Nero, on whether you like pseudo-intellectual, new age, badly written, self indulgent piffle.

Hmmm, never would have expected you to dislike any of that sorta stuff, Pica. I can go with new age, not so sure about the rest though. Perhaps one just needs to be of a certain age....

Nichole

i have these barely rational loves and hatreds  ;D

I also equate new age for closely with pseudo-intellectual and self indulgence and piffle...

There was a time when I was playing what could be categorized as New Age, a musician friend joked, "New Age, rhymes w/ Sewage". Really though, there's some brilliant music within that genre, and also some really vapid stuff. Like in any style of music.

One thing has come to mind reading various New Age writings, it isn't New Age at all, much of it is "Ancient Age", rediscovery of things that were known in other eras.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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RebeccaFog

Crazily bright sunsets
eternal electric guitar solos

anti-matter coagulants
pizza topped with whipped cream (the 'H' in 'whipped is pronounced)

A severed head sings of love and lost
dice decide the world
sweet potatoes and butternut squash

Stream of conscious junkyard articles
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Sandy

Quote from: Rebis on January 15, 2009, 08:10:13 AM
Crazily bright sunsets
eternal electric guitar solos

anti-matter coagulants
pizza topped with whipped cream (the 'H' in 'whipped is pronounced)

A severed head sings of love and lost
dice decide the world
sweet potatoes and butternut squash

Stream of conscious junkyard articles
"Picture yourself on a train in a station,
With plasticine porters with looking glass ties,
Suddenly someone is there at the turnstile,
The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes."

-Sandy(Double flashback!!!)
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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NicholeW.

Here's your flashback, Sandy!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Sandy

Quote from: Nichole on January 15, 2009, 10:20:35 AM
Here's your flashback, Sandy!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, it was something like that...

They say that if you remember the 60's you didn't live in the 60's.  ;)

-Sandy(everything is back to nrobal now...)
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Kassandra on January 15, 2009, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: Nichole on January 15, 2009, 10:20:35 AM
Here's your flashback, Sandy!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, it was something like that...

They say that if you remember the 60's you didn't live in the 60's.  ;)

-Sandy(everything is back to nrobal now...)

Yep, doncha love it when things get back to nrobal!!! :laugh:

tekla's fond of repeating that remembrance saying, I think. Someone on the board does anyhow.

Remind me again where they (the 60s) were, please? And you may as well pick up the first half of the seventies as well. My memory seems to begin in 1976!! :)

Nichole
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cindybc

Hi Nichole, I like the psychedelics, lots of colors like the sixties that. The days of the hippies and the flower children, I was in New York back in 62. Yep, the days of rock and roll and maryjawana beach parties, bond fires, guitar plucking and a lot of singing. The protests against the Vietnam war. Some of the boys coming back from Nam joining up with the Hippie movement. Actually I passed very well as  a girl back then, I even had me one of them tall lanky blond headed blue eyes Swedes for a boy friend.

The seventies? Yea the seventies weren't all that bad either. Those were the material years. I had my own cabin which was an old hunting cabin I converted into a doll house, well it looked like a doll house on the inside when my mom and I got done with it. I was pretty handy with a hammer and saw back then.

Had me a good well paying job, good benefits, Also ran a trailer park, a take out order and a boat rental business. Had me some really neat toys, A speed boat for the lake, a 25ft cabin cruiser for the bay. Two snow machines one souped up to burn aircraft fuel, a LFUFO, low flying unidentified flying object.

Had a 1963 Pontiac Parisian all decked out like in the hippie days, complete with the plush rug on the ceiling and floor, pom poms and the big dice, actually I called it my hippie wagon. Also had me a brand spankin new 75 GMC four wheel drive half ton truck complete with the chrome stacks and I had a truck camper I could stick on the back and this was what I used to travel half the US and Canada with. Well that's my recap of the 60's and 70's, the good years everything went to hell in a hand basket in the 80's so I don't regret the good days.

Cindy     
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NicholeW.

Yeah, Cindy memories can be nice.

So I am supposing that the 80s would be the time period you've talked about that began like 20 years of alcoholic street life?

That's sad to think things can fall apart so dramatically and drastically. But, it happens more often than most of us might believe and isn't only about "doing things ya shouldn't" like prostitution, making sex movies, being an alcoholic or drug addict, etc.

Sometimes it's simply as unceratin as you're driving home one day from work, watching the road, stopping at traffic lights when they turn yellow and then getting broadsided by a truck and the resultant damge basically blows your life all to hell.

Kinda like having lightning strike you on a clear day. It happens, not daily, but it happens.

It's odd how easily we take credit for our good fortune when the bad, the ugly and the luckless are never far from our lives and there's so little we do to cause either our successes or our failures sometimes.

Ah life.

Nichole
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cindybc

Hi Nichole hon
I never regained any of the things i use to have but after I sobered up I found something that was worth more then all the material things and the wonderful glorious days as part of the flower children, although those are memories I will always cherish. What I did find was love and compassion for my fellow human beings both female and male.

Back then even though I had GID I didn't know what it was and it didn't interfere with my job as a social worker which I was so proud of and I loved so much working with the very same people I had once been part of.

When I did finally arrive at the door steps to transitioning, to me it was my final salvation. I had nothing to lose that I hadn't already lost. So I had no fear of loosing anything, even though I knew that the chance of ending back on the street was very possible. Well my worst fear didn't happen. I'm probably happier now then I ever was before in my prior life.

I am who I am, I live as who I am, and I am proud of who I am and all the accomplishments I have achieved on the way here where i am now. As I have tried to tell folks here and other trans folks out there that it can be done.

You can find a place within yourself where you can be happy and at peace with yourself. But you must let go of the attitude and adjust the personality to suit the true you that you have become. The misery ends the minute you surrender to yourself and stop fighting yourself and listen to the little voice within.

If an old bat like me can do it I am quite certain that most of the young uns here can certainly do it to. Hmmmm. well thank God for who ever the originator of this thread was, somebody is finally tacking the cotton batten out of their ears and are listening to the prattlings of this old bat, hmmmm even if some of the attention was not all that positive, but me, I don't get mad, me only bite ankles.  :D

Nichole hun I think we already had a mutual understanding of each other some time back and thank you for sharing.

Cindy   

   
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: Pica Pica on January 15, 2009, 01:39:02 AM
mice are hard to kill, might need some wmds.

Listen to the prologue from this "This American Life" program:

http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1128

It turns out that there are lots of mousetrap inventors with weedy, overgrown front walks. The trap described at 2:50-4:00 is ...  :o

~Alyssa
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Lisbeth

Quote from: tekla on January 15, 2009, 12:16:55 AM
But if you're really looking for some fab idea, try the kitchen.  It could be that what Tesla was experimenting with was microwaves, and that would explain the 'cooking' of people on the boat a lot more easily than time travel would.

Oh, come on! We all know that microwaves are an alien invention (along with velcro), and that the royalties on the sale of microwaves supports the Men in Black.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Lisbeth on January 15, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: tekla on January 15, 2009, 12:16:55 AM
But if you're really looking for some fab idea, try the kitchen.  It could be that what Tesla was experimenting with was microwaves, and that would explain the 'cooking' of people on the boat a lot more easily than time travel would.



Oh, come on! We all know that microwaves are an alien invention (along with velcro), and that the royalties on the sale of microwaves supports the Men in Black.

SHHHHHHHHHH! Lis!! You're not supposed to be writing that on a public forum!!! Only at NSA!!!
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