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Started by krisalyx, January 14, 2009, 07:21:05 PM

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Shantel

"Things that matter" by Charles Krauthammer
The man is a brilliant writer!
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MadeleineG

Perv: The Sexual Deviant in All of Us (Jesse Bering)
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Tanya W

Susan Griffin's The Eros of Everyday Life: Essays on Ecology, Gender, and Society.

Like all of Griffin's work, this book has a hard to pin down quality to it - not unlike poetry, which makes sense as she also composes in this genre. The gender theme comes and goes through the writing, when it arises, though, she offers some fascinating insights. Typically these run along the lines of how our ideas about gender impose structure that is ofttimes not appropriate.

At one juncture she offers this wonderful and thought provoking passage:

"Though it is the nature of mind to create and delineate forms, and though forms are never perfectly consonant with reality, still there is a crucial difference between a form which closes off experience and a form which evokes and opens it...The effect that a deadening form has on a human life is more complex if only because a living, complex being still exists beneath any assumed identity, hiding behind and yet contradicting and rebelling against the mask."
'Though it is the nature of mind to create and delineate forms, and though forms are never perfectly consonant with reality, still there is a crucial difference between a form which closes off experience and a form which evokes and opens it.'
- Susan Griffin
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Shantel

Quote from: Tanya W on January 05, 2014, 11:43:22 AM
Susan Griffin's The Eros of Everyday Life: Essays on Ecology, Gender, and Society.

"Though it is the nature of mind to create and delineate forms, and though forms are never perfectly consonant with reality, still there is a crucial difference between a form which closes off experience and a form which evokes and opens it...The effect that a deadening form has on a human life is more complex if only because a living, complex being still exists beneath any assumed identity, hiding behind and yet contradicting and rebelling against the mask."

Ms. Griffin seems to have an excellent sense of perception, looks like a good read!
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Tanya W

Quote from: Shantel on January 05, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Ms. Griffin seems to have an excellent sense of perception, looks like a good read!

I would agree with this comment on Ms Griffin's perception. She seems to allow her gaze to linger, a rarity in this culture in my opinion. Through this lingering she sees quite deeply and the reports she offers from these depths are considerable in their insight. Again and again I find myself reading and then re-reading and then re-re-reading.

In both this and her poetic sensibility she is similar to Annie Dillard. Generally, however, I like Ms Griffin's subject matter a bit more - more of an edge / a cutting edge to it.

Should you pick it up, I'd love to hear any impressions.
'Though it is the nature of mind to create and delineate forms, and though forms are never perfectly consonant with reality, still there is a crucial difference between a form which closes off experience and a form which evokes and opens it.'
- Susan Griffin
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Shantel

Quote from: Tanya W on January 05, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
I would agree with this comment on Ms Griffin's perception. She seems to allow her gaze to linger, a rarity in this culture in my opinion. Through this lingering she sees quite deeply and the reports she offers from these depths are considerable in their insight. Again and again I find myself reading and then re-reading and then re-re-reading.

In both this and her poetic sensibility she is similar to Annie Dillard. Generally, however, I like Ms Griffin's subject matter a bit more - more of an edge / a cutting edge to it.

Should you pick it up, I'd love to hear any impressions.


I probably will, but mind you I am a slow reader still on the "Dick and Jane" level according to my S.O. who hogs the Kindle.  ;D
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Tanya W

Quote from: Shantel on January 05, 2014, 12:31:10 PM
I am a slow reader still on the "Dick and Jane" level according to my S.O. who hogs the Kindle.  ;D

If someone who reads Charles Krauthammer and considers picking up Susan Griffin is considered a 'Dick and Jane' level reader, well your SO must be formidable in the letters department! Someone along the lines of Schooling in Capitalist America (my toughest slog ever) and Marcel Proust!  ;)
'Though it is the nature of mind to create and delineate forms, and though forms are never perfectly consonant with reality, still there is a crucial difference between a form which closes off experience and a form which evokes and opens it.'
- Susan Griffin
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Shantel

Quote from: Tanya W on January 05, 2014, 12:53:11 PM
If someone who reads Charles Krauthammer and considers picking up Susan Griffin is considered a 'Dick and Jane' level reader, well your SO must be formidable in the letters department! Someone along the lines of Schooling in Capitalist America (my toughest slog ever) and Marcel Proust!  ;)

I'm still slogging through Krauthammer, he's intelligent, insightful and humorous and sometimes a tad over my head. I started 1984 some time back and found it so depressing that it's on hold probably for quite some time.
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Tanya W

Quote from: Shantel on January 05, 2014, 01:00:47 PM
I started 1984 some time back and found it so depressing that it's on hold probably for quite some time.

This I can certainly understand. Honestly, however, 1984 is one of several books I go back to again and again. My experience of titles like this is the writing lifts them so far above the depressing nature of their content - or perhaps takes them so deeply into this content -  that, paradoxically, they transform into a testament to the enduring human spirit. Granted there are not many this well-written - 1984, Cormac McCarthy's The Road, and, though working in a different medium, Bob Dylan's 'Blind Willie McTell' - but they are out there.

Still, sometimes one has to simply put that book down...

   
'Though it is the nature of mind to create and delineate forms, and though forms are never perfectly consonant with reality, still there is a crucial difference between a form which closes off experience and a form which evokes and opens it.'
- Susan Griffin
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Chloe

Tragedy and Hope (productions.org)
A History of the World In Our Times

FREE download on NOOK.
QuoteThe Peace Revolution Podcast acts as a virtual classroom for adults, designed to point out and provide useful resources and information pertaining to history, philosophy, economics, politics, and other subjects; to enable individuals to act responsibly and attain life, liberty, and happiness.
"But it's no use now," thought poor Alice, "to pretend be two people!
"Why, there's hardly enough of me left to make one respectable person!"
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Jill F

She's Not There by Jennifer Finney Boylan
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dalebert

The movie has made me nostalgic for reading The Hobbit. I read it several times as a kid but it's been so long. I'll give it a peek on my Kindle.

Calder Smith

I'm not reading it at the moment because I don't have it yet but I will be reading a book called House of Evil: The Indiana Torture Slaying by John Dean.
Manchester United diehard fan.
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MadeleineG

I bought a book on culturally responsive education reforms in Maori communities. Looks like a cool read. Eager to crack.  :)
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Constance

Star Wars: Kenobi by John Jackson Miller

Pica Pica

I'm reading The Sword in the Stone by TH White, I love his irreverent take on Arthurian legend.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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DriftingCrow

White Fire by Preston & Child. It's part of the Agent Pendergast series.
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CalmRage

1984.

It's been happening for years i think. We're not at the beginning of it but in the endphase of preparation.
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Shantel

Quote from: Zóôt Threepwood on January 17, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
1984.

It's been happening for years i think. We're not at the beginning of it but in the endphase of preparation.

I got part way though it and had to put it down because it is a very depressing read. The people of the former Soviet Union experienced much of that as are the people of North Korea now. I see elements of it in place here in the US already with so many nanny state laws now on the books, political correctness speech and group-think. George's book was prophetic, he was ahead of his time!
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CalmRage

Quote from: Shantel on January 17, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
I got part way though it and had to put it down because it is a very depressing read. The people of the former Soviet Union experienced much of that as are the people of North Korea now. I see elements of it in place here in the US already with so many nanny state laws now on the books, political correctness speech and group-think. George's book was prophetic, he was ahead of his time!

Crimethink! Shantel unbellyfeel Ingsoc
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